Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA?


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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
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 Kathern ,thx to you and all the other folks that make this a GREAT
stock  site . K. ..your commentary is most helpfull and insitefull [sp.]

Sure do like todays chart presention on Yahoo of ASIA.Neat lay out with
notes etc..  Thx again to all.
Katherine Malm wrote:

> Patrick, That's just about the coolest thing I've seen on the net in
> ages! (OK, so I'm not very adventurous.) Thanks and here's the new
> link to the chart: http://makeashorterlink.com/?R22F6694 Katherine
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: Patrick Wahl
>      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:15 PM
>      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
>       Wow, that's some link.  Here is a suggestion on long links,
>      I've only used it once,
>      but it seemed to work.
>
>      http://www.makeashorterlink.com/index.php
>
>      Thanks for the chart.  I'll stick with my interpretation,
>      but I'll add that the handle
>      seems a little loose, not ideal.  I would say the breakout
>      fails around 19, a 7 to 8%
>      drop in price from the breakout.  I think the pivot point
>      was close to 20.25 or so, I
>      tend to discount those intraday spikes, if they occur, and
>      use the close, so that
>      would not take the Dec. 4 (or whichever date it was) high
>      into account, just the
>      close.  Not sure this is a legitimate approach, just a
>      personal quirk maybe.  Anyway,
>      I think that anyone in this stock should stick with it a bit
>      longer.
>
>      On 11 Jan 2002 at 15:14, Katherine Malm wrote:
>
>      > Just an experiment, but here's a marked chart:
>      >
>      >
>      http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp?.dir=/CANSLIM&.dnm=ASIA+011102.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp%3f.dir=/CANSLIM%26.dnm=Up%2bDn%2bRatio%2bArticle%2b123101.jpg%26.src=ph
>
>      >
>      > Katherine
>      >   ----- Original Message -----
>      >   From: Patrick Wahl
>      >   To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      >   Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:52 PM
>      >   Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
>      >
>      >
>      >   I think we went around about this subject a few months
>      ago, but I would put a
>      >   different interpretation on the chart.  I think the 12/4
>      spike marked the end of the
>      >   right side of the cup, and the choppy sideways movement
>      from that point constitutes
>      >   a handle.  So buying on 12/4 was not the proper buy
>      point.
>      >
>      >   The more appropriate buy point would be the day in
>      January where price gapped up
>      >   to close at about 20.90 or so.  To me the formation of a
>      handle part way up a cup
>      >   doesn't make sense.  Handles form at logical sell
>      points, and the logical sell point is
>      >   the resistance formed at the old high - the left side of
>      the cup around end of June,
>      >   first of July.  Without a sort of definite point like an
>      old high, any consolidation point
>      >   along the way up the right side of the cup can be called
>      a handle.
>      >
>      >   Just my interpretation, I think during the discussion of
>      this point a few months ago I
>      >   was in a decided minority (one, maybe).
>      >
>      >   On 10 Jan 2002 at 23:30, Dave wrote:
>      >
>      >   > In hindsight if I had been watching ASIA on 12/4 I
>      probably would have
>      >   > bought. If you consider 11/27 to be the start of a
>      short handle, the pivot
>      >   > would be 17.33 and the stock could have been bought up
>      to 18.20. In this
>      >   > case, you would still be in the stock.
>      >   >
>      >   > As for now, it's definitely a gamble. Personally I
>      like the month-long
>      >   > consolidation and the near record volume over the past
>      few days, and think
>      >   > that if the Nasdaq resumes its rally, there's a good
>      chance ASIA will go
>      >   > along for the ride.
>      >   >
>      >   >
>      >   > > -----Original Message-----
>      >   > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      >   > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf
>      Of esetser
>      >   > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:51 PM
>      >   > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      >   > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
>      >   > >
>      >   > >
>      >   > > So you only consider cup with handles as true
>      breakouts?  I buy
>      >   > > cups, cup
>      >   > > with handles, double bottoms, and flat bases, maybe
>      others.
>      >   > >
>      >   > > At 10:44 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
>      >   > > >I'm biased, but I prefer to see it as a high handle
>      beginning
>      >   > > on 12/6. The
>      >   > > >volume that day was not so great, and there was no
>      true
>      >   > > handle, so I don't
>      >   > > >consider it a true breakout.
>      >   > > >
>      >   > > >The handle beginning after that failure is nice and
>      long and
>      >   > > volume dried
>      >   > > >up nicely towards the end. The volume on 1/6-1/7
>      was very high.
>      >   > > >
>      >   > > >Only time will tell the true story...
>      >   > > >
>      >   > > >> -----Original Message-----
>      >   > > >> From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      >   > > >> [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On
>      Behalf Of esetser
>      >   > > >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:25 PM
>      >   > > >> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      >   > > >> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
>      >   > > >>
>      >   > > >>
>      >   > > >> I read this one differently.  I see ASIA as a
>      stock with a
>      >   > > breakout to a
>      >   > > >> new on 12/6.  (And as a matter of fact, I bot it
>      that day.)
>      >   > > >> That breakout
>      >   > > >> became suspect as the stock corrected and closed
>      near its
>      >   > > low during the
>      >   > > >> day, and went on to be a failed breakout for
>      anyone buying
>      >   > > in during the
>      >   > > >> day.  The action since then is short of the 5
>      weeks minimum to
>      >   > > >> define a new
>      >   > > >> base, and is confusing in light of the new high
>      it set.. I'm
>      >   > > >> not sure where
>      >   > > >> I would put a pivot on this one.  The volume was
>      fabulous for 2
>      >   > > >> days, but
>      >   > > >> has remained almost as high for the last 2 day
>      pullback, so I
>      >   > > >> would be very
>      >   > > >> cautious.
>      >   > > >>
>      >   > > >> At 04:58 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
>      >   > > >> >Hi,
>      >   > > >> >
>      >   > > >> >Just curious on comment about ASIA.  Last few
>      days it looked
>      >   > > >> to be breaking
>      >   > > >> >out of a nice chart formation.  Alas, it seems
>      to be
>      >   > > breaking down or
>      >   > > >> >allowing for another re-entry point.  Any
>      thoughts?
>      >   > > >> >
>      >   > > >> >Is this stock considered Canslim "worthy" even
>      though it has
>      >   > > >> seen higher
>      >   > > >> >days (ie. not breaking to new highs)?
>      >   > > >> >
>      >   > > >> >Thanks,
>      >   > > >> >Erik
>      >   > > >> >PS. Forgive me if this has been the topic of
>      recent
>      >   > > >> discussion. I just moved
>      >   > > >> >and missed the last week of my Canslim Group
>      emails.
>      >   > > >> >
>      >   > > >> >----- Original Message -----
>      >   > > >> >From: "Mike Hofmann" <sfmcanslim@hotmail.com>
>      >   > > >> >To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>      >   > > >> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:08 PM
>      >   > > >> >Subject: Re: AW: [CANSLIM] DFXI
>      >   > > >> >
>      >   > > >> >
>      >   > > >> >> ... and still more than you really wanted to
>      know about "kudos":
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >> >From a really cool site called "Take Our Word
>      For It"
>      >   > > >> >> (http://www.takeourword.com/):
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >> "Kudos is simply Greek for "praise".  It is
>      thought to
>      >   > > have entered
>      >   > > >> >English
>      >   > > >> >> as university slang.  By 1799 we have a
>      back-formed verb
>      >   > > kudize "to
>      >   > > >> >praise",
>      >   > > >> >> so kudos itself was probably in use prior to
>      that, though
>      >   > > >> the first known
>      >   > > >> >> recorded use of kudos comes from 1831.
>      Thereafter we find
>      >   > > >> it used by the
>      >   > > >> >> likes of Disraeli and Darwin.  Darwin wrote,
>      in one of his
>      >   > > >> letters: "Lyell
>      >   > > >> >> has read about half of the volume in clean
>      sheets, and gives
>      >   > > >> me very great
>      >   > > >> >> kudos."
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >> Pronunciation in Britain is "cue-doss" while
>      in America it
>      >   > > >> is "koo-doze".
>      >   > > >> >> As with many Greek words, -os indicates a
>      singular noun.
>      >   > > Many people
>      >   > > >> >assume
>      >   > > >> >> kudos is the  plural form, with the singular
>      being a
>      >   > > kudo.  They are
>      >   > > >> >wrong.
>      >   > > >> >> Just wrong.
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >> There was once a computer operating system
>      called QDOS.  Was
>      >   > > >> it named by a
>      >   > > >> >> Brit, so that it sounded like kudos, or is
>      that simply a
>      >   > > >> coincidence?"
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >> ... and there you have it.
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>      >   > > >> >> From: "Warren Keuffel" <wkeuffel@xmission.com>
>
>      >   > > >> >> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>      >   > > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:23 PM
>      >   > > >> >> Subject: Re: AW: [CANSLIM] DFXI
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >>
>      >   > > >> >> > Jumping in here for Mike -- "Kudos"
>      basically means
>      >   > > >> "Congratulations".
>      >   > > >> >> >  However <ahem> I was curious about the
>      etymology of the word so
>      >   > > >> >> > consulted my American Heritage dictionary
>      which defines it
>      >   > > >> as  "Acclaim
>      >   > > >> >> > or prestige as a result of achievement or
>      position." But
>      >   > > >> no guidance on
>      >   > > >> >> > etymology, darn it.  More than you wanted to
>      know, right? <g>
>      >   > > >> >> >
>      >   > > >> >> > Warren
>      >   > > >> >> >
>      >   > > >> >> > Andreas Himmelreich wrote:
>      >   > > >> >> >
>      >   > > >> >> > >Sorry to ask Mike, what means Kudos?
>      >   > > >> >> > >
>      >   > > >> >> > >
>      >   > > >> >> > >>-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Von: Mike Gibbons
>      [SMTP:webmaster@cwhcharts.com]
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Gesendet am: Wednesday, January 09, 2002
>      7:08 PM
>      >   > > >> >> > >>An: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Betreff: RE: [CANSLIM] DFXI
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Kudos to you, you should be feeling
>      pleased this morning
>      >   > > >> and justly
>      >   > > >> >so.
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Aloha,
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Mike Gibbons
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
>      >   > > >> >> > >>From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      >   > > >> >> >
>      >>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dave
>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:29 AM
>      >   > > >> >> > >>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DFXI
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>True, the handle was a bit sloppy but for
>      the most part
>      >   > > >> volume in the
>      >   > > >> >> > >>handle was below normal. It also made a
>      pretty nice ascending
>      >   > > >> >triangle.
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>As for the action at the end of the day, I
>      think you're
>      >   > > >> reading too
>      >   > > >> >much
>      >   > > >> >> > >>into it. The stock made a tremendous surge
>      on volume in
>      >   > > >> the last half
>      >   > > >> >> hour
>      >   > > >> >> > >>of trading. It then pulled back on lower
>      volume but
>      >   > > >> didn't undercut
>      >   > > >> >that
>      >   > > >> >> > >>"intraday breakout point". It then found
>      some new buyers
>      >   > > >> at the very
>      >   > > >> >end
>      >   > > >> >> > >>of the session.
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>You can find flaws in any chart formation.
>      I've
>      >   > > missed many huge
>      >   > > >> >winners
>      >   > > >> >> > >>by refusing to buy what I perceived as a
>      flawed handle,
>      >   > > >> or by putting
>      >   > > >> >> too
>      >   > > >> >> > >>much weight on intraday analysis. Even IBD
>      will go on to
>      >   > > >> call "perfect
>      >   > > >> >> > >>cup-handle breakouts" on stocks that have
>      somewhat
>      >   > > questionable
>      >   > > >> >> > >>formations. I won't be surprised to see
>      DFXI mentioned
>      >   > > >> tomorrow as a
>      >   > > >> >> good
>      >   > > >> >> > >>example.
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>Of course hindsight is 20/20. Nevertheless
>      I'm glad I
>      >   > > >> bought yesterday
>      >   > > >> >> :)
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>Yes it did but fell back below it's high
>      of the day. Also,
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>action in the
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>handle has been sloppy - one normally
>      hopes to see price
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>pullback on falling
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>volume but in fact it's made a couple of
>      attempts to BO on
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>above average
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>volume since forming the pivot on 12/10.
>      I wouldn't
>      >   > > >> rush in with an
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>overnight order!
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>Mike Gibbons
>      >   > > >> >> > >>>>
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&nbsp;Kathern ,thx to you and all the other folks that make this a GREAT&nbsp;
stock&nbsp; site . K. ..your commentary is most helpfull and insitefull
[sp.]
<br>Sure do like todays chart presention on Yahoo of ASIA.Neat lay out
with notes etc..&nbsp; Thx again to all.
<br>Katherine Malm wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
Patrick,&nbsp;That's just about the
coolest thing I've seen on the net in ages! (OK, so I'm not very adventurous.)
Thanks and here's the new link to the chart:&nbsp;<a href="http://makeashorterlink.com/?R22F6694">http://makeashorterlink.com/?R22F6694</a>&nbsp;Katherine
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</div>

<div 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a href="mailto:pjwahl@attbi.com" title="pjwahl@attbi.com">Patrick Wahl</a></div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com" title="canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a></div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 11, 2002 4:15
PM</div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA?</div>
&nbsp;Wow, that's some link.&nbsp; Here is a suggestion on long links,
I've only used it once,
<br>but it seemed to work.
<p><a href="http://www.makeashorterlink.com/index.php">http://www.makeashorterlink.com/index.php</a>
<p>Thanks for the chart.&nbsp; I'll stick with my interpretation, but I'll
add that the handle
<br>seems a little loose, not ideal.&nbsp; I would say the breakout fails
around 19, a 7 to 8%
<br>drop in price from the breakout.&nbsp; I think the pivot point was
close to 20.25 or so, I
<br>tend to discount those intraday spikes, if they occur, and use the
close, so that
<br>would not take the Dec. 4 (or whichever date it was) high into account,
just the
<br>close.&nbsp; Not sure this is a legitimate approach, just a personal
quirk maybe.&nbsp; Anyway,
<br>I think that anyone in this stock should stick with it a bit longer.
<p>On 11 Jan 2002 at 15:14, Katherine Malm wrote:
<p>> Just an experiment, but here's a marked chart:
<br>>
<br>> <a href="http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp?.dir=/CANSLIM&.dnm=ASIA+011102.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp%3f.dir=/CANSLIM%26.dnm=Up%2bDn%2bRatio%2bArticle%2b123101.jpg%26.src=ph">http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp?.dir=/CANSLIM&amp;.dnm=ASIA+011102.jpg&amp;.src=ph&amp;.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/katherinemalm/vwp%3f.dir=/CANSLIM%26.dnm=Up%2bDn%2bRatio%2bArticle%2b123101.jpg%26.src=ph</a>
<br>>
<br>> Katherine
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- Original Message -----
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Patrick Wahl
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <a href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:52 PM
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; I think we went around about this subject a few months
ago, but I would put a
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; different interpretation on the chart.&nbsp; I think
the 12/4 spike marked the end of the
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; right side of the cup, and the choppy sideways movement
from that point constitutes
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; a handle.&nbsp; So buying on 12/4 was not the proper
buy point.
<br>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; The more appropriate buy point would be the day in January
where price gapped up
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; to close at about 20.90 or so.&nbsp; To me the formation
of a handle part way up a cup
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; doesn't make sense.&nbsp; Handles form at logical sell
points, and the logical sell point is
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; the resistance formed at the old high - the left side
of the cup around end of June,
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; first of July.&nbsp; Without a sort of definite point
like an old high, any consolidation point
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; along the way up the right side of the cup can be called
a handle.
<br>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; Just my interpretation, I think during the discussion
of this point a few months ago I
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; was in a decided minority (one, maybe).
<br>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; On 10 Jan 2002 at 23:30, Dave wrote:
<br>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > In hindsight if I had been watching ASIA on 12/4 I
probably would have
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > bought. If you consider 11/27 to be the start of a
short handle, the pivot
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > would be 17.33 and the stock could have been bought
up to 18.20. In this
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > case, you would still be in the stock.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > As for now, it's definitely a gamble. Personally I
like the month-long
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > consolidation and the near record volume over the past
few days, and think
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > that if the Nasdaq resumes its rally, there's a good
chance ASIA will go
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > along for the ride.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > -----Original Message-----
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > From: <a href="mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > [<A HREF="mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>]On Behalf
Of esetser
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:51 PM
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > To: <a href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > So you only consider cup with handles as true breakouts?&nbsp;
I buy
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > cups, cup
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > with handles, double bottoms, and flat bases, maybe
others.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > At 10:44 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >I'm biased, but I prefer to see it as a high handle
beginning
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > on 12/6. The
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >volume that day was not so great, and there was
no true
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > handle, so I don't
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >consider it a true breakout.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >The handle beginning after that failure is nice
and long and
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > volume dried
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >up nicely towards the end. The volume on 1/6-1/7
was very high.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >Only time will tell the true story...
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> -----Original Message-----
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> From: <a href="mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> [<A HREF="mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>]On Behalf
Of esetser
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:25 PM
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> To: <a href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ASIA?
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> I read this one differently.&nbsp; I see ASIA
as a stock with a
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > breakout to a
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> new on 12/6.&nbsp; (And as a matter of fact, I
bot it that day.)
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> That breakout
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> became suspect as the stock corrected and closed
near its
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > low during the
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> day, and went on to be a failed breakout for anyone
buying
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > in during the
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> day.&nbsp; The action since then is short of the
5 weeks minimum to
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> define a new
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> base, and is confusing in light of the new high
it set.. I'm
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> not sure where
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> I would put a pivot on this one.&nbsp; The volume
was fabulous for 2
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> days, but
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> has remained almost as high for the last 2 day
pullback, so I
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> would be very
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> cautious.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> At 04:58 PM 1/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >Hi,
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >Just curious on comment about ASIA.&nbsp; Last
few days it looked
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> to be breaking
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >out of a nice chart formation.&nbsp; Alas, it
seems to be
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > breaking down or
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >allowing for another re-entry point.&nbsp; Any
thoughts?
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >Is this stock considered Canslim "worthy" even
though it has
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> seen higher
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >days (ie. not breaking to new highs)?
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >Thanks,
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >Erik
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >PS. Forgive me if this has been the topic of
recent
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> discussion. I just moved
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >and missed the last week of my Canslim Group
emails.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >----- Original Message -----
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >From: "Mike Hofmann" &lt;<a href="mailto:sfmcanslim@hotmail.com">sfmcanslim@hotmail.com</a>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >To: &lt;<a href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:08 PM
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >Subject: Re: AW: [CANSLIM] DFXI
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> ... and still more than you really wanted to
know about "kudos":
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> >From a really cool site called "Take Our Word
For It"
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> (<a href="http://www.takeourword.com/">http://www.takeourword.com/</a>):
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> "Kudos is simply Greek for "praise".&nbsp;
It is thought to
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > have entered
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >English
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> as university slang.&nbsp; By 1799 we have
a back-formed verb
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > kudize "to
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >praise",
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> so kudos itself was probably in use prior to
that, though
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> the first known
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> recorded use of kudos comes from 1831.&nbsp;
Thereafter we find
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> it used by the
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> likes of Disraeli and Darwin.&nbsp; Darwin
wrote, in one of his
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> letters: "Lyell
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> has read about half of the volume in clean
sheets, and gives
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> me very great
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> kudos."
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> Pronunciation in Britain is "cue-doss" while
in America it
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> is "koo-doze".
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> As with many Greek words, -os indicates a singular
noun.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > Many people
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >assume
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> kudos is the&nbsp; plural form, with the singular
being a
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > kudo.&nbsp; They are
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >wrong.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> Just wrong.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> There was once a computer operating system
called QDOS.&nbsp; Was
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> it named by a
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> Brit, so that it sounded like kudos, or is
that simply a
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> coincidence?"
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> ... and there you have it.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> From: "Warren Keuffel" &lt;<a href="mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com">wkeuffel@xmission.com</a>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> To: &lt;<a href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:23 PM
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> Subject: Re: AW: [CANSLIM] DFXI
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > Jumping in here for Mike -- "Kudos" basically
means
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> "Congratulations".
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> >&nbsp; However &lt;ahem> I was curious about
the etymology of the word so
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > consulted my American Heritage dictionary
which defines it
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> as&nbsp; "Acclaim
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > or prestige as a result of achievement or
position." But
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> no guidance on
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > etymology, darn it.&nbsp; More than you wanted
to know, right? &lt;g>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > Warren
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > Andreas Himmelreich wrote:
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >Sorry to ask Mike, what means Kudos?
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Von: Mike Gibbons [SMTP:webmaster@cwhcharts.com]
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Gesendet am: Wednesday, January 09, 2002
7:08 PM
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>An: <a href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Betreff: RE: [CANSLIM] DFXI
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Kudos to you, you should be feeling pleased
this morning
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> and justly
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >so.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Aloha,
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Mike Gibbons
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>From: <a href="mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>[<A HREF="mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>]On
Behalf Of Dave
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:29
AM
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>To: <a href="mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</a>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] DFXI
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>True, the handle was a bit sloppy but for
the most part
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> volume in the
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>handle was below normal. It also made a
pretty nice ascending
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >triangle.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>As for the action at the end of the day,
I think you're
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> reading too
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >much
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>into it. The stock made a tremendous surge
on volume in
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> the last half
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> hour
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>of trading. It then pulled back on lower
volume but
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> didn't undercut
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >that
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>"intraday breakout point". It then found
some new buyers
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> at the very
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >end
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>of the session.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>You can find flaws in any chart formation.
I've
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > missed many huge
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >winners
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>by refusing to buy what I perceived as
a flawed handle,
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> or by putting
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> too
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>much weight on intraday analysis. Even
IBD will go on to
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> call "perfect
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>cup-handle breakouts" on stocks that have
somewhat
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > questionable
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>formations. I won't be surprised to see
DFXI mentioned
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> tomorrow as a
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> good
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>example.
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>Of course hindsight is 20/20. Nevertheless
I'm glad I
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> bought yesterday
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> :)
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>Yes it did but fell back below it's high
of the day. Also,
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>action in the
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>handle has been sloppy - one normally
hopes to see price
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>pullback on falling
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>volume but in fact it's made a couple
of attempts to BO on
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>above average
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>volume since forming the pivot on 12/10.
I wouldn't
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> rush in with an
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>overnight order!
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>Mike Gibbons
<br>>&nbsp;&nbsp; > > >> >> > >>>>
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