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John, I read today in the local paper where several Sunbeam executives =
just settled a shareholder class action lawsuit for a measly $15 million =
so they can concentrate on defending themselves against an upcoming SEC =
charge of fraud regarding their accounting practices. Their auditor?? =
Andersen.
Tom Worley
stkguru@netside.net
AIM: TexWorley
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Adair=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM]earnings reporting
I assume everyone uses earnings reports as a basic tool for evaluating =
a stock . Furthermore a stock 's relative strength is derived mostly =
from that earnings report. We have all heard about Enron. This morning =
I read Dollar General found a $100,000,000 "error "in their earnings =
report which would have changed their earnings from $.55 to $.65/ share =
. In the same local paper Sunbeam also reported a similar "error". I am =
of the opinion its time to become a squeaky wheel with our elected =
representatives. I know there will be hearings but likely no significant =
lasting changes unless it is demanded by the investing public. It is =
time to criminalize as well as penalize with punitive damages all =
misleading and erroneous accounting activity with the accountant as well =
as the board of directors and operating officers of the offending firm.
Lets let all of our elected representatives know just how big the =
investing community is. This is not a republican or democrat or a =
campaign contribution issue but an integrity in reporting of accounting =
issue. Wont you join me in contacting your elected representatives.
Sincerely=20
John R. Adair, M.D. Ret.
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:04 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] market direction/EFTs
=20
Sorry, that was a typo...It should have read 3/21/00 and should read =
(465 days). Thanks for pointing that out.
=20
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gyorgy Veszpremi=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] market direction/EFTs
=20
Actually the bull market top was in March of 2000.=20
Katherine Malm wrote:=20
Here's a good way to look at the relative performance of the markets =
since key dates: I like to see these in bar chart view, but you can use =
line charts as well, as both are available: Look at comparisons from key =
dates to Friday's close (1/11/02): Bull market top: 3/21/2001 (202 =
days)Latest market peak: 5/21/2001 (160 days)Follow-thru day: 9/28/2001 =
(73 days) This will give you a comparison between Russell 2000 (small =
cap), MidCap, Large Cap, Naz100 (large cap tech), Dow and total market =
proxies:http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IWM,MDY,QQQ,DIA,IYY=
There is a bar at the bottom of the chart that you can stretch to the =
days right and left that you want to consider once the chart is built. =
Roll your cursor over the chart and the key information for each index =
will pop up. This will give you a comparison between styles Sm Cap =
Growth, Mid Cap Growth, Lg Cap Growth,Sm Cap Val, Mid Cap Val, Lg Cap =
Val. Again, run these from the key date until today and you will be able =
to make your own conclusions about =
growth/value.http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IJT,IJK,IVW,IJ=
S,IJJ,IVE For a more general comparison between growth, value, total =
market, try:http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IWZ,IWW,IYY =
Katherine=20
----- Original Message -----
From: Ann
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] market direction/EFTs
Thanks for your response, Andreas. I think I see what you are saying. =
I invested in a SmallCap EFT recently, and was wondering whether I =
should=20
have!=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Andreas Himmelreich" <judgejimmy@web.de>=20
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>=20
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:27 PM=20
Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] market direction=20
=20
: You do not have to buy stocks with high PEs. Just go into value and =
growth=20
and=20
: let the BOs of ultra High PE stocks fail.=20
:=20
: David Ryan says in Market Wizards that the PE (or the Value) is =
important=20
(even Won does not say it) for=20
: the probabillity of a good breakout.=20
:=20
: I do belive that the market right now differenciates, its not a =
nutty bull=20
market like in the 90s where=20
: everything went up, no matter its fundamentals (in some stages of =
the bull=20
market).=20
:=20
: But the market is not so bad, that it sends down all stocks, it=20
differenciates, thats all...=20
:=20
: I do actually not care about the market direction too much. The only =
question that is interesting:=20
: Is there an area which is profitable? (so far only on the long side) =
There=20
where 100000s of long chances even in 2000 and 2001.=20
:=20
: Are there Industry Groups that set up a bull market for its member =
stocks?=20
If yes, money is around the corner. Pick it up and ride it.=20
: Just look at stuff like TARO, MDCI, AHMH, BZH in 2001...=20
:=20
: December was pretty much flat on the Indexes, but it was a great =
month for=20
a lot of canslim stocks.=20
:=20
: I acutally would like it if the Nasdaq would be still on 2000 Points =
at=20
the end of the year, as long=20
: fundamentally sound stocks go up and grap goes down.=20
:=20
: The only moment you have to be aware of is the moment gets so bad, =
that=20
nothing works, every Industry Group=20
: goes down pricewise, everything rolls over, no matter how good the=20
fundamentals of the stocks. Then and only then=20
: it is time to get flat. In 2001 that was from August to the =
beginning of=20
October.=20
:=20
: Sorry to be so opinionated.=20
:=20
: Andreas=20
:=20
:=20
: > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----=20
: > Von: rolf hertenstein [SMTP:rolfh@mindspring.com]=20
: > Gesendet am: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:54 PM=20
: > An: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
: > Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] market direction=20
: >=20
: > I'm still concerned about the overall market valuation, which =
remains=20
high.=20
: > Yes, as earnings improve, market P/Es should lower, assuming =
prices=20
: > don't accelerate faster than earnings improve.=20
: >=20
: > Even though WON gives little credence to P/Es, I'm adding a P=20
: > (CANSLIMP ?) for the time being. I think many investors will be =
spooked=20
: > by high P/Es (e.g., KKD) and tend towards solid companies with=20
relatively=20
: > low P/Es. Just one new investor's opinion.=20
: >=20
: > Rolf=20
: >=20
: > ----- Original Message -----=20
: > From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>=20
: > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>=20
: > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 9:31 AM=20
: > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] market direction=20
: >=20
: >=20
: > > I have been saying all along this is going to be a =
sloooooooowwwww,=20
: > > recovery. Well into the year. All we have to do is *read* the =
news. I=20
: > listen=20
: > > to a local analyst here named Larry King, he's with Smith =
Barney. A=20
few=20
: > > weeks ago he was calling for a quick market return. Just Friday =
he=20
changed=20
: > > course and now calls for growth but very slow. Analysts jobs =
from=20
: > brokerage=20
: > > houses are to soften the tone of bad news. They can even make it =
sound=20
: > good.=20
: > > Sure there are stocks out there that the savvy trader may pick, =
but on=20
: > > average not. It takes months to years for rate and tax cuts to =
filter=20
into=20
: > > the economy.=20
: > >=20
: > > DanF=20
: > >=20
: > >=20
: > > ----- Original Message -----=20
: > > From: "Kent Norman" <kent_norman@yahoo.com>=20
: > > To: "CANSLIM" <canslim@xmission.com>=20
: > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:11 AM=20
: > > Subject: [CANSLIM] market direction=20
: > >=20
: > >=20
: > > > Many "experts" are expecting the market to follow=20
: > > > tradition and rise in January and go flat to down for=20
: > > > a few months. Do you think this weeks 5 down days are=20
: > > > meaningful?=20
: > > >=20
: > > > I know WON says we don't need to be concerned with=20
: > > > where the market is heading, just where it is.=20
: > > >=20
: > > > So where is it? Is the party over? Should we all get=20
: > > > out of the pool?=20
: > > >=20
: > > > Kent Norman=20
: > > >=20
: > > >=20
: > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
: > > > Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.=20
: > > >=20
: > > > __________________________________________________=20
: > > > Do You Yahoo!?=20
: > > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!=20
: > > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/=20
: > > >=20
: > > > -=20
: > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"=20
: > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or=20
: > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.=20
: > > >=20
: > >=20
: > >=20
: > > -=20
: > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"=20
: > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or=20
: > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.=20
: > >=20
: >=20
: >=20
: > -=20
: > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"=20
: > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or=20
: > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>John, I read today in the local paper where =
several=20
Sunbeam executives just settled a shareholder class action lawsuit for a =
measly=20
$15 million so they can concentrate on defending themselves against an =
upcoming=20
SEC charge of fraud regarding their accounting practices. Their =
auditor??=20
Andersen.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
TexWorley</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dxjadair@brightok.net =
href=3D"mailto:xjadair@brightok.net">John=20
Adair</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 15, 2002 =
10:55=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM]earnings=20
reporting</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">I=20
assume everyone uses earnings reports as a basic tool for evaluating a =
stock .=20
Furthermore a stock =91s relative strength is derived mostly from that =
earnings=20
report. We <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>have all =
heard about=20
Enron. This morning I read Dollar General found a $100,000,000 =
=93error =93in=20
their earnings report which would have changed their earnings from =
$.55 to=20
$.65/ share . In the same local paper Sunbeam also reported a similar =
=93error=94.=20
I am of the opinion its time to become a squeaky wheel with our =
elected=20
representatives. I know there will be hearings but likely no =
significant=20
lasting changes unless it is demanded by the investing public. It is =
time to=20
criminalize as well as penalize with punitive <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>damages all misleading and =
erroneous=20
accounting activity with the accountant as well as the board of =
directors and=20
operating officers of the offending =
firm.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Lets=20
let all of our elected representatives know just how big the investing =
community is. This is not a republican or democrat or a campaign =
contribution=20
issue but an integrity in reporting of accounting issue. Wont you join =
me in=20
contacting your elected =
representatives.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle18><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">John=20
R. Adair, M.D. Ret.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On=20
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Katherine Malm<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, January 15, 2002 =
9:04=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] market=20
direction/EFTs</SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black">Sorry, that was=20
a typo...It should have read 3/21/00 and should read (465 days). =
Thanks for=20
pointing that out.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
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href=3D"mailto:GyorgyV@rcmachine.com">Gyorgy=20
Veszpremi</A> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack =
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title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
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face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Tuesday, =
January=20
15, 2002 9:01 AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
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mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
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face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
market direction/EFTs</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; =
mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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4.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Actually the bull market top =
was in=20
March of 2000. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P=20
style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
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face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Katherine Malm wrote:=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
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face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Here's a good way to look at =
the=20
relative performance of the markets since key dates: I like to =
see these=20
in bar chart view, but you can use line charts as well, as both are=20
available: Look at comparisons from key dates to Friday's close=20
(1/11/02): Bull market top: 3/21/2001 (202 days)Latest market =
peak:=20
5/21/2001 (160 days)Follow-thru day: 9/28/2001 (73 days) This =
will give=20
you a comparison between Russell 2000 (small cap), MidCap, Large Cap, =
Naz100=20
(large cap tech), Dow and total market proxies:<A=20
=
href=3D"http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IWM,MDY,QQQ,DIA,IYY=
">http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IWM,MDY,QQQ,DIA,IYY</A>Th=
ere=20
is a bar at the bottom of the chart that you can stretch to the days =
right and=20
left that you want to consider once the chart is built. Roll your =
cursor over=20
the chart and the key information for each index will pop =
up. This will=20
give you a comparison between styles Sm Cap Growth, Mid Cap Growth, Lg =
Cap=20
Growth,Sm Cap Val, Mid Cap Val, Lg Cap Val. Again, run these from the =
key date=20
until today and you will be able to make your own conclusions about=20
growth/value.<A=20
=
href=3D"http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IJT,IJK,IVW,IJS,IJJ=
,IVE">http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IJT,IJK,IVW,IJS,IJJ,I=
VE</A> For=20
a more general comparison between growth, value, total market, try:<A=20
=
href=3D"http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IWZ,IWW,IYY">http:/=
/stockcharts.com/webcgi/wb.exe?Perf.web+IWZ,IWW,IYY</A> Katherine=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- =
Original=20
Message -----</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
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mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A=20
title=3Dannholly@mediaone.net=20
href=3D"mailto:annholly@mediaone.net">Ann</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; =
mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<P></P>
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style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
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face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; =
mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Sunday, =
January 13,=20
2002 12:05 PM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; =
mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
market direction/EFTs</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; =
mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: =
79.5pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; =
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face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> Thanks for your =
response, Andreas.=20
I think I see what you are saying. <BR>I invested in a SmallCap EFT =
recently,=20
and was wondering whether I should <BR>have! <BR>----- Original =
Message -----=20
<BR>From: "Andreas Himmelreich" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:judgejimmy@web.de">judgejimmy@web.de</A>> <BR>To: =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
>=20
<BR>Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:27 PM <BR>Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] =
market=20
direction <BR> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P=20
style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">: You do not have to buy =
stocks with=20
high PEs. Just go into value and growth <BR>and <BR>: let the BOs of =
ultra=20
High PE stocks fail. <BR>: <BR>: David Ryan says in Market Wizards =
that the PE=20
(or the Value) is important <BR>(even Won does not say it) for <BR>: =
the=20
probabillity of a good breakout. <BR>: <BR>: I do belive that the =
market right=20
now differenciates, its not a nutty bull <BR>market like in the 90s =
where=20
<BR>: everything went up, no matter its fundamentals (in some stages =
of the=20
bull <BR>market). <BR>: <BR>: But the market is not so bad, that it =
sends down=20
all stocks, it <BR>differenciates, thats all... <BR>: <BR>: I do =
actually not=20
care about the market direction too much. The only <BR>question that =
is=20
interesting: <BR>: Is there an area which is profitable? (so far only =
on the=20
long side) There <BR>where 100000s of long chances even in 2000 and =
2001.=20
<BR>: <BR>: Are there Industry Groups that set up a bull market for =
its member=20
stocks? <BR>If yes, money is around the corner. Pick it up and ride =
it. <BR>:=20
Just look at stuff like TARO, MDCI, AHMH, BZH in 2001... <BR>: <BR>: =
December=20
was pretty much flat on the Indexes, but it was a great month for =
<BR>a lot of=20
canslim stocks. <BR>: <BR>: I acutally would like it if the Nasdaq =
would be=20
still on 2000 Points at <BR>the end of the year, as long <BR>: =
fundamentally=20
sound stocks go up and grap goes down. <BR>: <BR>: The only moment you =
have to=20
be aware of is the moment gets so bad, that <BR>nothing works, every =
Industry=20
Group <BR>: goes down pricewise, everything rolls over, no matter how =
good the=20
<BR>fundamentals of the stocks. Then and only then <BR>: it is time to =
get=20
flat. In 2001 that was from August to the beginning of <BR>October. =
<BR>:=20
<BR>: Sorry to be so opinionated. <BR>: <BR>: Andreas <BR>: <BR>: =
<BR>: >=20
-----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- <BR>: > Von: rolf hertenstein=20
[SMTP:rolfh@mindspring.com] <BR>: > Gesendet am: Sunday, January =
13, 2002=20
5:54 PM <BR>: > An: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>:=20
> Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] market direction <BR>: > <BR>: > I'm =
still=20
concerned about the overall market valuation, which remains <BR>high. =
<BR>:=20
> Yes, as earnings improve, market P/Es should lower, assuming =
prices <BR>:=20
> don't accelerate faster than earnings improve. <BR>: > <BR>: =
> Even=20
though WON gives little credence to P/Es, I'm adding a P <BR>: > =
(CANSLIMP=20
?) for the time being. I think many investors will be spooked =
<BR>: >=20
by high P/Es (e.g., KKD) and tend towards solid companies with =
<BR>relatively=20
<BR>: > low P/Es. Just one new investor's opinion. <BR>: > =
<BR>:=20
> Rolf <BR>: > <BR>: > ----- Original Message ----- =
<BR>: >=20
From: "Dan Forant" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com">dforant1@nycap.rr.com</A>> =
<BR>: >=20
To: <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
>=20
<BR>: > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 9:31 AM <BR>: > Subject: =
Re:=20
[CANSLIM] market direction <BR>: > <BR>: > <BR>: > > I =
have been=20
saying all along this is going to be a sloooooooowwwww, <BR>: > =
>=20
recovery. Well into the year. All we have to do is *read* the news. I =
<BR>:=20
> listen <BR>: > > to a local analyst here named Larry King, =
he's=20
with Smith Barney. A <BR>few <BR>: > > weeks ago he was calling =
for a=20
quick market return. Just Friday he <BR>changed <BR>: > > course =
and now=20
calls for growth but very slow. Analysts jobs from <BR>: > =
brokerage <BR>:=20
> > houses are to soften the tone of bad news. They can even =
make it=20
sound <BR>: > good. <BR>: > > Sure there are stocks out there =
that=20
the savvy trader may pick, but on <BR>: > > average not. It =
takes months=20
to years for rate and tax cuts to filter <BR>into <BR>: > > the =
economy.=20
<BR>: > > <BR>: > > DanF <BR>: > > <BR>: > > =
<BR>:=20
> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>: > > From: "Kent =
Norman"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:kent_norman@yahoo.com">kent_norman@yahoo.com</A>> =
<BR>:=20
> > To: "CANSLIM" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@xmission.com">canslim@xmission.com</A>> =
<BR>: >=20
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:11 AM <BR>: > > Subject:=20
[CANSLIM] market direction <BR>: > > <BR>: > > <BR>: > =
>=20
> Many "experts" are expecting the market to follow <BR>: > > =
>=20
tradition and rise in January and go flat to down for <BR>: > > =
> a=20
few months. Do you think this weeks 5 down days are <BR>: > > =
>=20
meaningful? <BR>: > > > <BR>: > > > I know WON says =
we don't=20
need to be concerned with <BR>: > > > where the market is =
heading,=20
just where it is. <BR>: > > > <BR>: > > > So where =
is it? Is=20
the party over? Should we all get <BR>: > > > out of the =
pool? <BR>:=20
> > > <BR>: > > > Kent Norman <BR>: > > > =
<BR>:=20
> > > <BR>: > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D <BR>: > > =
> Opportunities=20
always look bigger going than coming. <BR>: > > > <BR>: > =
>=20
> __________________________________________________ <BR>: > =
> >=20
Do You Yahoo!? <BR>: > > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! =
Mail!=20
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