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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_067C_01C19F49.60D95790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fanus, first off, you're not a buffoon! Nor was my father, mother and = wife. They all came here through the immigration process. Rather than = feel you have to defend your right for being here... just consider the = source and move on.=20 As a side note, thanks for the ongoing help that you provide to me (and = others) writing formulas for QuotesPlus. Know that you are welcome here in the U.S. ..... very welcome! Gene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Fanus=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim I am currently a green card holder, so I guess I am one of the baffoons. It took me 3 years to get a green card and I had to have proof of employment before obtaining a workers visa. After one obtain a green card, you need to wait 5 years before you can become citizen, (if you marry a citizen, you have to wait 3 years), only then can you vote. So on average one can only vote after about 8 years. Don't know where you get the idea that people can vote right away. Furthermore, I am not elegible for welfare and social security. Only citizens are. But I still pay social security tax, which I do not have a problem with. This is a small price to pay to work in a stable country.=20 Keep in mind, the general idea of immigrants working in the US is to fill jobs for which there are a shortage of skilled workers. And yes, there had to be a shortage. Before being able to get my green card, my job had to be advertised in a newspaper and only after there weren't qualifying applications from US citizens were it determined that there is a shortage for that particular skill. I am not sure how you consider filling shortages as hurting the country.=20 You also cannot blame the INS for illegal immigrants working here. The INS had nothing to do with them. That is why they are illegal. I am sorry for going off the topic of the discussion list, but couldn't let this one slip by. Regards - Fanus --- Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > Please, let's not compare the immigrants of today > with the past. No > comparison. If you don't believe the INS has hurt > the Nation in general, > that's your right. This was a broad stroke > statement, not just about Miami, > but including Miami. >=20 > DanF > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@netside.net> > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:23 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under water > .... >=20 >=20 > > Dan, having lived in Miami, FL for the past 18 > years, I take exception to > > your statements. > > > > The bulk of the immigrants that have settled here > are Cuban, and they are > > among the most hard working people I have met. > They are family oriented, > and > > welcome with open arms even very distant > relatives, or even friends or > > neighbors of distant relatives. They help find > them a place to live, they > > find them a job, they support them and ease the > transition into a new > > country and culture. > > > > I also believe one of the requirements to gain > resident alien status is > > proof of a job, or other means of support to > ensure welfare will not be an > > issue. > > > > I certainly would not be still living in the city > of Miami after 18 years > if > > I believe it was "ruined". > > > > Where did you get the notion that a recent > immigrant, legal or illegal, > was > > even allowed to vote? Are you forgetting that most > present day citizens of > > the USA were once an immigrant, or are descended > from an immigrant? Not a > > bad thing, I believe this cultural blend is what > has made this country so > > great, and made it value freedom so much. > > > > I would also note that typically only a very small > percentage of the > > citizens of the United States even bother to vote. > Guess the ones that > don't > > bother are baffoons as well? > > > > Tom Worley > > stkguru@netside.net > > AIM: TexWorley > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com> > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > water .... > > > > > > > Fanus, > > > > > > It is a well known fact the last Administration > let in a bunch of > baffoons > > > mainly so they would enroll Democrat and vote. > Un-controlled borders > etc. > > > Carter did the same thing and ruined Miami Fla. > Most of these enrolled > > > immediately for welfare of sorts. Couldn't or > can't speak the language > let > > > alone have a trade of any sort. That doesn't > include the illegal ones > > > including those from the troubled Middle East. > > > > > > DanF > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Fanus" <fanus13@yahoo.com> > > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:28 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > water .... > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > Please clarify your statement "The INS has > screwed up > > > > the makeup of our Country..." > > > > > > > > - Fanus > > > > > > > > --- Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > Glug,glug,glug, under water is right. Enron > may have > > > > > put the final nail in > > > > > the coffin for awhile. This combined with > future > > > > > bleak earnings spell > > > > > trouble ahead. Kmart bumbling along with > other bad > > > > > news such as the SEC's > > > > > inability to keep track of GIANTS have given > > > > > investors a bad taste. Congress > > > > > will bloat and gloat for months over Enron > and I > > > > > believe very little will be > > > > > done about it legally. Congress is part of > the > > > > > problem. Campaign $$$. The > > > > > INS has screwed up the makeup of our > Country, the > > > > > Government (SEC) may now > > > > > have set back our financial markets for > quite > > > > > awhile.. That's why a large > > > > > brokerage house recently said to be only 50% > > > > > invested. But then again > > > > > ........of course they would. > > > > > > > > > > DanF > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Andreas Himmelreich" > <judgejimmy@web.de> > > > > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:42 AM > > > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under > water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nasdaq Future is under water .... > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe > canslim" or > > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes > in your > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > > > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe > canslim" or > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes > in your > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > > > > > > > - > > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" > or > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in > your email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in > your email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or >=20 =3D=3D=3D message truncated =3D=3D=3D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_067C_01C19F49.60D95790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4912.300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Fanus, first off, you're not a = buffoon! Nor was=20 my father, mother and wife. They all came here through the immigration = process.=20 Rather than feel you have to defend your right for being here... just = consider=20 the source and move on. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">As a side note, thanks for the ongoing = help that=20 you provide to me (and others) writing formulas for = QuotesPlus.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Know that you are welcome here in the = U.S. =20 ..... very welcome!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dfanus13@yahoo.com = href=3D"mailto:fanus13@yahoo.com">Fanus</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 17, = 2002 11:10=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq = Future....=20 INS - Not Canslim</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>I am currently a green card holder, so I guess I = am<BR>one of=20 the baffoons. It took me 3 years to get a<BR>green card and I = had to=20 have proof of employment<BR>before obtaining a workers visa. = After one=20 obtain a<BR>green card, you need to wait 5 years before you = can<BR>become=20 citizen, (if you marry a citizen, you have to<BR>wait 3 years), only = then can=20 you vote. So on average<BR>one can only vote after about 8 = years. Don't=20 know<BR>where you get the idea that people can vote = right<BR>away. =20 Furthermore, I am not elegible for welfare and<BR>social = security. Only=20 citizens are. But I still pay<BR>social security tax, which I do not = have a=20 problem<BR>with. This is a small price to pay to work in a = stable<BR>country.=20 <BR><BR>Keep in mind, the general idea of immigrants working<BR>in the = US is=20 to fill jobs for which there are a<BR>shortage of skilled = workers. And=20 yes, there had to be<BR>a shortage. Before being able to get my = green=20 card,<BR>my job had to be advertised in a newspaper and only<BR>after = there=20 weren't qualifying applications from US<BR>citizens were it determined = that=20 there is a shortage<BR>for that particular skill. I am not sure how=20 you<BR>consider filling shortages as hurting the country. <BR>You also = cannot=20 blame the INS for illegal immigrants<BR>working here. The INS = had=20 nothing to do with them.<BR>That is why they are illegal.<BR><BR>I am = sorry=20 for going off the topic of the discussion<BR>list, but couldn't let = this one=20 slip by.<BR><BR>Regards<BR>- Fanus<BR><BR><BR>--- Dan Forant <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com">dforant1@nycap.rr.com</A>>=20 wrote:<BR>> Please, let's not compare the immigrants of = today<BR>> with=20 the past. No<BR>> comparison. If you don't believe the INS has = hurt<BR>>=20 the Nation in general,<BR>> that's your right. This was a broad=20 stroke<BR>> statement, not just about Miami,<BR>> but including=20 Miami.<BR>> <BR>> DanF<BR>> ----- Original Message = - -----<BR>>=20 From: "Tom Worley" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A>><BR>> = To:=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>>=20 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:23 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM] Nasdaq=20 Future is under water<BR>> ....<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Dan, = having=20 lived in Miami, FL for the past 18<BR>> years, I take exception = to<BR>>=20 > your statements.<BR>> ><BR>> > The bulk of the = immigrants=20 that have settled here<BR>> are Cuban, and they are<BR>> > = among the=20 most hard working people I have met.<BR>> They are family = oriented,<BR>>=20 and<BR>> > welcome with open arms even very distant<BR>> = relatives,=20 or even friends or<BR>> > neighbors of distant relatives. They = help=20 find<BR>> them a place to live, they<BR>> > find them a job, = they=20 support them and ease the<BR>> transition into a new<BR>> > = country=20 and culture.<BR>> ><BR>> > I also believe one of the = requirements=20 to gain<BR>> resident alien status is<BR>> > proof of a job, = or other=20 means of support to<BR>> ensure welfare will not be an<BR>> > = issue.<BR>> ><BR>> > I certainly would not be still living = in the=20 city<BR>> of Miami after 18 years<BR>> if<BR>> > I believe = it was=20 "ruined".<BR>> ><BR>> > Where did you get the notion that = a=20 recent<BR>> immigrant, legal or illegal,<BR>> was<BR>> > = even=20 allowed to vote? Are you forgetting that most<BR>> present day = citizens=20 of<BR>> > the USA were once an immigrant, or are = descended<BR>> from=20 an immigrant? Not a<BR>> > bad thing, I believe this cultural = blend is=20 what<BR>> has made this country so<BR>> > great, and made it = value=20 freedom so much.<BR>> ><BR>> > I would also note that = typically=20 only a very small<BR>> percentage of the<BR>> > citizens of = the=20 United States even bother to vote.<BR>> Guess the ones that<BR>> = don't<BR>> > bother are baffoons as well?<BR>> ><BR>> = > Tom=20 Worley<BR>> > <A=20 href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A><BR>> = > AIM:=20 TexWorley<BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: = "Dan=20 Forant" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com">dforant1@nycap.rr.com</A>><BR>&g= t; >=20 To: <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>>=20 > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:17 PM<BR>> > Subject: = Re:=20 [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under<BR>> water ....<BR>> = ><BR>>=20 ><BR>> > > Fanus,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > It = is a well=20 known fact the last Administration<BR>> let in a bunch of<BR>>=20 baffoons<BR>> > > mainly so they would enroll Democrat and=20 vote.<BR>> Un-controlled borders<BR>> etc.<BR>> > > = Carter did=20 the same thing and ruined Miami Fla.<BR>> Most of these = enrolled<BR>>=20 > > immediately for welfare of sorts. Couldn't or<BR>> can't = speak=20 the language<BR>> let<BR>> > > alone have a trade of any = sort.=20 That doesn't<BR>> include the illegal ones<BR>> > > = including=20 those from the troubled Middle East.<BR>> > ><BR>> > = >=20 DanF<BR>> > > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > > = From:=20 "Fanus" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:fanus13@yahoo.com">fanus13@yahoo.com</A>><BR>> = > >=20 To: <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>>=20 > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:28 PM<BR>> > > = Subject:=20 Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under<BR>> water ....<BR>> >=20 ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Dan<BR>> > >=20 ><BR>> > > > Please clarify your statement "The INS = has<BR>>=20 screwed up<BR>> > > > the makeup of our = Country..."<BR>> >=20 > ><BR>> > > > - Fanus<BR>> > > = ><BR>> >=20 > > --- Dan Forant <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com">dforant1@nycap.rr.com</A>>=20 wrote:<BR>> > > > > Glug,glug,glug, under water is = right.=20 Enron<BR>> may have<BR>> > > > > put the final nail=20 in<BR>> > > > > the coffin for awhile. This combined=20 with<BR>> future<BR>> > > > > bleak earnings = spell<BR>>=20 > > > > trouble ahead. Kmart bumbling along with<BR>> = other=20 bad<BR>> > > > > news such as the SEC's<BR>> > = > >=20 > inability to keep track of GIANTS have given<BR>> > > = > >=20 investors a bad taste. Congress<BR>> > > > > will bloat = and=20 gloat for months over Enron<BR>> and I<BR>> > > > > = believe=20 very little will be<BR>> > > > > done about it legally. = Congress is part of<BR>> the<BR>> > > > > problem. = Campaign=20 $$$. The<BR>> > > > > INS has screwed up the makeup of=20 our<BR>> Country, the<BR>> > > > > Government (SEC) = may=20 now<BR>> > > > > have set back our financial markets=20 for<BR>> quite<BR>> > > > > awhile.. That's why a=20 large<BR>> > > > > brokerage house recently said to be = only=20 50%<BR>> > > > > invested. But then again<BR>> > = >=20 > > ........of course they would.<BR>> > > > = ><BR>>=20 > > > > DanF<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > = >=20 > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > > > > From: = "Andreas=20 Himmelreich"<BR>> <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:judgejimmy@web.de">judgejimmy@web.de</A>><BR>> = > >=20 > > To: <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>>=20 > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:42 AM<BR>> = >=20 > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under<BR>> water = ....<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> = > >=20 > > > Nasdaq Future is under water ....<BR>> > > = > >=20 ><BR>> > > > > > -<BR>> > > > > = > -To=20 subscribe/unsubscribe, email<BR>> > > > > "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>>= ; >=20 > > > > -In the email body, write "subscribe<BR>> = canslim"=20 or<BR>> > > > > > -"unsubscribe canslim". 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