RE: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim

From: "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]" <cefaloni@pica.army.mil>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:19:55 -0500
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Fanus,

Well said.  And please don't take the opinion of one person to be
representative of others.  Freedom of speech includes the opinions of
buffoons.

Anyway, I believe that anyone who loves this country enough to uproot
themselves and their families from their homelands and go through the
process you describe is certainly worthy of being an American citizen.  It's
sad that so many American-born citizens take their citizenship for granted.

John C.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Fanus [mailto:fanus13@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:10 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future.... INS - Not Canslim


I am currently a green card holder, so I guess I am
one of the baffoons.  It took me 3 years to get a
green card and I had to have proof of employment
before obtaining a workers visa.  After one obtain a
green card, you need to wait 5 years before you can
become citizen, (if you marry a citizen, you have to
wait 3 years), only then can you vote.  So on average
one can only vote after about 8 years. Don't know
where you get the idea that people can vote right
away.  Furthermore, I am not elegible for welfare and
social security.  Only citizens are. But I still pay
social security tax, which I do not have a problem
with. This is a small price to pay to work in a stable
country. 

Keep in mind, the general idea of immigrants working
in the US is to fill jobs for which there are a
shortage of skilled workers.  And yes, there had to be
a shortage.  Before being able to get my green card,
my job had to be advertised in a newspaper and only
after there weren't qualifying applications from US
citizens were it determined that there is a shortage
for that particular skill. I am not sure how you
consider filling shortages as hurting the country. 
You also cannot blame the INS for illegal immigrants
working here.  The INS had nothing to do with them.
That is why they are illegal.

I am sorry for going off the topic of the discussion
list, but couldn't let this one slip by.

Regards
- - Fanus


- --- Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> Please, let's not compare the immigrants of today
> with the past. No
> comparison. If you don't believe the INS has hurt
> the Nation in general,
> that's your right. This was a broad stroke
> statement, not just about Miami,
> but including Miami.
> 
> DanF
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@netside.net>
> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under water
> ....
> 
> 
> > Dan, having lived in Miami, FL for the past 18
> years, I take exception to
> > your statements.
> >
> > The bulk of the immigrants that have settled here
> are Cuban, and they are
> > among the most hard working people I have met.
> They are family oriented,
> and
> > welcome with open arms even very distant
> relatives, or even friends or
> > neighbors of distant relatives. They help find
> them a place to live, they
> > find them a job, they support them and ease the
> transition into a new
> > country and culture.
> >
> > I also believe one of the requirements to gain
> resident alien status is
> > proof of a job, or other means of support to
> ensure welfare will not be an
> > issue.
> >
> > I certainly would not be still living in the city
> of Miami after 18 years
> if
> > I believe it was "ruined".
> >
> > Where did you get the notion that a recent
> immigrant, legal or illegal,
> was
> > even allowed to vote? Are you forgetting that most
> present day citizens of
> > the USA were once an immigrant, or are descended
> from an immigrant? Not a
> > bad thing, I believe this cultural blend is what
> has made this country so
> > great, and made it value freedom so much.
> >
> > I would also note that typically only a very small
> percentage of the
> > citizens of the United States even bother to vote.
> Guess the ones that
> don't
> > bother are baffoons as well?
> >
> > Tom Worley
> > stkguru@netside.net
> > AIM: TexWorley
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>
> > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under
> water ....
> >
> >
> > > Fanus,
> > >
> > > It is a well known fact the last Administration
> let in a bunch of
> baffoons
> > > mainly so they would enroll Democrat and vote.
> Un-controlled borders
> etc.
> > > Carter did the same thing and ruined Miami Fla.
> Most of these enrolled
> > > immediately for welfare of sorts. Couldn't or
> can't speak the language
> let
> > > alone have a trade of any sort. That doesn't
> include the illegal ones
> > > including those from the troubled Middle East.
> > >
> > > DanF
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Fanus" <fanus13@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under
> water ....
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > Please clarify your statement "The INS has
> screwed up
> > > > the makeup of our Country..."
> > > >
> > > > - Fanus
> > > >
> > > > --- Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > Glug,glug,glug, under water is right. Enron
> may have
> > > > > put the final nail in
> > > > > the coffin for awhile. This combined with
> future
> > > > > bleak earnings spell
> > > > > trouble ahead. Kmart bumbling along with
> other bad
> > > > > news such as the SEC's
> > > > > inability to keep track of GIANTS have given
> > > > > investors a bad taste. Congress
> > > > > will bloat and gloat for months over Enron
> and I
> > > > > believe very little will be
> > > > > done about it legally. Congress is part of
> the
> > > > > problem. Campaign $$$. The
> > > > > INS has screwed up the makeup of our
> Country, the
> > > > > Government (SEC) may now
> > > > > have set back our financial markets for
> quite
> > > > > awhile.. That's why a large
> > > > > brokerage house recently said to be only 50%
> > > > > invested. But then again
> > > > > ........of course they would.
> > > > >
> > > > > DanF
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Andreas Himmelreich"
> <judgejimmy@web.de>
> > > > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:42 AM
> > > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Nasdaq Future is under
> water ....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nasdaq Future is under water ....
> > > > > >
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