Re: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 23:23:01 -0600

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Thanks for clearing this up Ian. Things like this can't be "seen" in the =
records available online. Just goes to show that with a microcap such as =
this, due diligence needs to be deep enough to uncover these clues. (And =
conversely, the same would hold for uncovering rats in the attic for =
other microcaps!)

Have you made a decision as to whether to "sell on the technicals" or =
will you wait for the next earnings announcement and conference call?

The estimates I am using are from my VectorVest software. If there are =
no analysts covering, they use past EPS and "significant developments" =
to make a forward estimate. As I don't generally follow microcaps, I'm =
not sure how reliable these numbers are. When I wrote my note yesterday, =
that's why I looked at the historical Rev/EPS numbers myself before =
taking their low forward EPS number at face value.

One thing I did note in the financials from last quarter is that they =
have not been writing off some of their software development costs this =
year. From the 10Q 11/14/01:
Research and development expenses for this year's third quarter of $1.7 =
million (or 9.4% of revenue) increased slightly from $1.6 million (or =
12.5% of revenue) in 2000. Such expenses for the first nine months of =
2001 totaled $5.0 million (or 10.0% of revenue) compared to $4.4 million =
(or 11.0% of revenue) for the first nine months of the prior year. =
Research and development expenses consist primarily of salaries and =
expenses of the Company's research and development personnel and outside =
consultants. The higher expenses in 2001 over the same period last year =
reflect costs for work to design and develop certain products to support =
the Company's expansion into new Professional Services Automation =
markets, partially offset by reduced expenses for Elite.com. Research =
and development expenses exclude internally developed software costs =
that were capitalized totaling approximately $320,000 for the third =
quarter and approximately $900,000 for the first nine months of 2001. No =
software development costs were capitalized in 2000.=20

The increased R&D effort for EIS is expected to continue through 2001 as =
the Company completes development of its new product lines. The Company =
is committed to maintaining strong research and development efforts so =
it can continue to provide innovative software solutions as the needs of =
its customer base and target markets change.=20

Something like this would certainly make 2001 EPS numbers "look" better =
when comparing QoQ or YoY.

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ian=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]


  Katherine:

  I have listened to the last 2 conference calls, and management paints =
a very different picture. The acquisition from last year has been =
negligible to overall revenues, and has not contributed to earnings yet. =
Rather, the fact that they are in a new product cycle, expanding =
internationally, and are moving into new verticals, has been given as =
their reason for the recent growth. Moreover, they claimed last Q that =
existing backlog should make Q4 2001 and Q1 2002 comparable with the =
last 2 quarters. They also seemed confident that their customer base and =
recurring revenue stream had finally reached a "critical mass" that =
would ensure continuing growth. They weren't sure what exact growth rate =
they would have, but they were confident growth would continue.

  Finally, they were confident that the Law Manager acquisition from =
last year was finally about to contribute meaningfully to earnings.

  In the face of this, it strikes me as odd that there would still be an =
active covering analyst with such low estimates. Maybe that means that =
the next earnings report (rumored to be on Feb. 11) will be the one that =
either breaks them, or sends them to a new level as they finally have a =
share price over $10 and a market cap over $100,000,000. We'll see.

  Ian


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Katherine Malm=20
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:48 AM
    Subject: Re: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]


          Hi Tom

          This is what I don't get, and I'm not trying to be =
objectionable, just trying to find out how you'd get $.16/quarter given =
the company's history. When I look at this, I see OK growth in revenues, =
but the company continuously has good and bad quarters. I noticed in the =
10Q that they capitalize software development and then write it off in =
chunks every so often (not uncommon) and it's possible that these =
negative quarters every so often are related to that. I'm guessing if I =
were to dig further into the financials I would get to know them better. =
I know that they did an acquisition in 2000, and I'd assume that the =
growth in EPS would be related. I look at Sept/Oct 99 and see really =
nice quarters just like the last two we've seen recently, but they are =
then followed by negative or so-so quarters. That raises red flags and =
would lead me to question whether the growth pattern shown recently can =
be projected into the future.

          Katherine

          GROWTH RATES=20
         1 Year 3 Years 5 Years=20
          Sales % -11.70 15.54 -14.53=20
          EPS % NM NM NM=20
          Dividend % NM NM NM=20

                REVENUE=20
                Quarters 1998 1999 2000 2001=20
                MAR 8,343 12,988 13,334 14,295=20
                JUN 10,850 15,401 13,741 17,392=20
                SEP 12,385 15,381 12,858 18,516=20
                DEC 13,484 15,496 12,399 =20
              =20
                Totals 45,062 59,266 52,332 50,203=20
                Note:  Units in Thousands of U.S. Dollars=20
        =20
           =20
                EARNINGS PER SHARE=20
                Quarters 1998 1999 2000 2001=20
                MAR -0.070 0.010 0.050 -0.040=20
                JUN -0.060 0.080 0.010 0.160=20
                SEP 0.020 0.140 -0.020 0.230=20
                DEC -0.030 0.210 -0.060 =20
              =20
                Totals -0.140 0.440 -0.020 0.350=20
                Note:  Units in U.S. Dollars=20
        =20

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Tom Worley=20
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 8:27 AM
      Subject: Re: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]


      Hi Katherine,

      I see 16 cents as easy based on the last 4 sequential quarters =
(last two were 16 and 23 cents). Sales appear to be accelerating thru =
Q3, so even a moderate slowdown in acceleration should still leave them =
well over 16 cents/qtr.


      Tom Worley
      stkguru@netside.net
      AIM: TexWorley
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Katherine Malm=20
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 9:09 AM
        Subject: Re: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]


        Tom, Ian

        Just curious...where do you get $.16/Q EPS estimates? I took a =
*very* quick glance at the last 10Q, are you basing this on the =
acquisition in 2000?

        Katherine
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Tom Worley=20
          To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
          Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:25 AM
          Subject: Re: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]


          I agree, Ian. My second trip on this stock has nearly made up =
the loss from the first voyage. Looks more promising now than the first =
time I tried it. Sequential growth particularly impressive.

          Tom Worley
          stkguru@netside.net
          AIM: TexWorley
            ----- Original Message -----=20
            From: Ian=20
            To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
            Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:01 PM
            Subject: Re: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion =
please?]


            Thanks a lot for the chart analysis. The low volume during =
the new high to $13.50, and the high volume/no progress days on 1/10, =
1/11, and 1/15 were the things that concerned me. I convinced myself =
that the low-volume high was just a case of 'too much, too fast' off the =
$5 October low. The recent high volume/no movement days are what concern =
me.

            There shouldn't be much concern with P/E. The company =
claimed that Q4 2001, and Q1 2002 were already filled with existing =
backlog, and I figure that a minimum of $0.16 per Q is easy - so 4 =
months from now, the ttm EPS will be at least $0.70 if not more, and the =
P/E at current levels would be under 20. Given their industry group and =
recent growth rate, a much higher price could easily be supported. But I =
would like to see more signs of volume accumulation here.=20

            After the next earnings report the IBD EPS ranking should go =
over 85, and the RS is over 90 already, so it should start appearing on =
IBD radar screens for the first time - including the weekend review. =
Perhaps it will be a month or so before the next clear direction becomes =
visible.

            Thanks again,

            Ian



            ----- Original Message -----=20
              From: Katherine Malm=20
              To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
              Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:36 PM
              Subject: Re:ELTE (was [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]


              Hi Ian,

              Your question has me wondering whether the sell rules that =
I follow translate perfectly to thinly traded stocks. But I'll tell you =
what I see and the way I would read it if I were to own it:

              -After the B/O at 7.13, stock moves up and consolidates =
for about 5 weeks. This is a "valid" consolidation so that makes the =
previous base low 8.01 which was printed on 11/23/01.
              -Just as a quick check for "overextension" that means that =
the stock is 70% above the 200dMA (7.02), 15% above the 50dMA (10.43) =
and 49.6% above the base low (8.01). It gets a yellow flag for being 70% =
above the 200dMA according to WON's sell rule #34, but does not get a =
red flag for the Rubberband Sell Rule.
              -After the consolidation and breakout 12/18 the stock has =
started to show signs of stress. This could easily be market related, =
but no way to tell.
              -1/2/02: New high on low volume. Red flag.
              -1/10/02 & 1/11/02- two days with little or no price =
progress on high volume. Red flag.
              -With 1 yellow and 2 red flags I thought it worth doing a =
PE Extension check. I've reconstructed the PE at the time of the B/O in =
October using trailing EPS numbers for the prior quarters. That puts it =
at $7.13/$.29 =3D 24.59. The extension warning would then be a forward =
PE of 24.59*2.21=3D 54.3. Let's see. DGO doesn't have any estimates, =
which means it isn't followed by enough analysts. I checked the internet =
to see if I could find anything and ran across this EPS/Rev snapshot:

              =
http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI/mg.asp?target=3D/stocks/companyinformati=
on/highlights&Ticker=3DELTE

              I am alarmed by the essentially flat revenues over the =
last 4 years, so I am going to go with the EPS estimates in my =
VectorVest software which reads a measly $.02. That puts the current =
forward looking PE at $11.98/$0.02 =3D 599! I'll have to mark that Red =
Flag.

              One note is that its industry is fairly healthy, =
consolidating after rising, not overly extended and currently ranked in =
the 2nd quartile.

              I'll let you take it from there!

              Katherine
                ----- Original Message -----=20
                From: Ian=20
                To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
                Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:40 PM
                Subject: [CANSLIM] Katherine - Opinion please?


                Would tuesdays distribution day for ELTE make you exit =
the stock at this point? Do you have any other insights into the chart?

                I would appreciate your analysis - it is the one big =
recent winner I am wondering what to do with. Based on all of my past =
experiences, and knowing the companies outlook, my gut tells me that it =
needs to consolidate here, but will run into the $20's by mid-year. But =
I'd rather listen to the chart. I fear I've held it long enough that I =
may be complacent.

                Thank you.

                Ian

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<DIV>Thanks for clearing this up Ian. Things like this can't be "seen" =
in the=20
records available online. Just goes to show that with a microcap such as =
this,=20
due diligence needs to be deep enough to uncover these clues. (And =
conversely,=20
the same would hold for uncovering rats in the attic for other =
microcaps!)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Have you made a decision as to whether to "sell on the technicals" =
or will=20
you wait for the next earnings announcement and conference call?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The estimates I am using are from my VectorVest software. If there =
are no=20
analysts covering, they use past EPS and "significant developments" to =
make a=20
forward estimate. As I don't generally follow microcaps, I'm not sure =
how=20
reliable these numbers are. When I wrote my note yesterday, that's why I =
looked=20
at the historical Rev/EPS numbers myself before taking their low forward =
EPS=20
number at face value.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>One thing I did note in the financials from last quarter is that =
they have=20
not been writing off some of their software development costs this year. =
From=20
the 10Q 11/14/01:</DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Research and development expenses for this =
year&#8217;s third quarter=20
of $1.7&nbsp;million (or 9.4% of revenue) increased slightly from=20
$1.6&nbsp;million (or 12.5% of revenue) in 2000. Such expenses for the =
first=20
nine months of 2001 totaled $5.0&nbsp;million (or 10.0% of revenue) =
compared to=20
$4.4&nbsp;million (or 11.0% of revenue) for the first nine months of the =
prior=20
year. Research and development expenses consist primarily of salaries =
and=20
expenses of the Company&#8217;s research and development personnel and =
outside=20
consultants. <FONT color=3D#0000ff>The higher expenses in 2001 over the =
same=20
period last year reflect costs for work to design and develop certain =
products=20
to support the Company&#8217;s expansion into new Professional Services =
Automation=20
markets, partially offset by reduced expenses for Elite.com. Research =
and=20
development expenses exclude internally developed software costs that =
were=20
capitalized totaling approximately $320,000 for the third quarter and=20
approximately $900,000 for the first nine months of 2001. No software=20
development costs were capitalized in 2000. </FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT size=3D2>The increased R&amp;D effort for EIS is expected to =
continue=20
through 2001 as the Company completes development of its new product =
lines. The=20
Company is committed to maintaining strong research and development =
efforts so=20
it can continue to provide innovative software solutions as the needs of =
its=20
customer base and target markets change. </FONT></P>
<P>Something like this would certainly make 2001 EPS numbers "look" =
better when=20
comparing QoQ or YoY.</P></DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dianstm@shaw.ca href=3D"mailto:ianstm@shaw.ca">Ian</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 19, =
2002 11:16=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re:ELTE (was =
[CANSLIM]=20
  Katherine-Opinion please?]</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Katherine:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have listened to the last 2 conference calls, =
and=20
  management paints a very different picture. The acquisition from last =
year has=20
  been negligible to overall revenues, and has not contributed to =
earnings yet.=20
  Rather, the fact that they are in a new product cycle, expanding=20
  internationally, and are moving into new verticals, has been given as =
their=20
  reason for the recent growth. Moreover, they claimed last Q that =
existing=20
  backlog should make Q4 2001 and Q1 2002 comparable with the last 2 =
quarters.=20
  They also seemed confident that their customer base and recurring =
revenue=20
  stream had finally reached a "critical mass" that would ensure =
continuing=20
  growth. They weren't sure what exact growth rate they would have, but =
they=20
  were confident&nbsp;growth would continue.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Finally, they were confident that the Law Manager=20
  acquisition from last year was finally about to contribute =
meaningfully to=20
  earnings.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>In the face of this, it strikes me as odd that =
there would=20
  still be an active covering analyst with such low estimates. Maybe =
that means=20
  that the next earnings report (rumored to be on Feb. 11) will be the =
one that=20
  either breaks them, or sends them to a new level as they finally have =
a share=20
  price over $10 and a market cap over $100,000,000. We'll =
see.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ian</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20
    Malm</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 19, =
2002 6:48=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re:ELTE (was =
[CANSLIM]=20
    Katherine-Opinion please?]</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
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          <DIV align=3Dleft>Hi Tom</DIV>
          <DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV align=3Dleft>This is what I don't get, and I'm not trying =
to be=20
          objectionable, just trying to find out how you'd get =
$.16/quarter=20
          given the company's history. When I look at this, I see OK =
growth in=20
          revenues, but the company continuously has good and bad =
quarters. I=20
          noticed in the 10Q that they capitalize software development =
and then=20
          write it off in chunks every so often (not uncommon)&nbsp;and =
it's=20
          possible that these negative quarters every so often are =
related to=20
          that. I'm guessing if I were to dig further into the =
financials I=20
          would get to know them better. I know that they did an =
acquisition in=20
          2000, and I'd assume that the growth in EPS would be related. =
I look=20
          at Sept/Oct 99 and see really nice quarters just like the last =
two=20
          we've seen recently, but they are then followed by negative or =
so-so=20
          quarters. That raises red flags and would lead me to question =
whether=20
          the growth pattern shown recently can be projected into the=20
          future.</DIV>
          <DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV align=3Dleft>Katherine</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT size=3D-1>GROWTH RATES</FONT></DIV></TH></TR>
      <TR>
        <TH bgColor=3D#dddddd></TH>
        <TH bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT size=3D-1>1 Year</FONT></TH>
        <TH bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT size=3D-1>3 Years</FONT></TH>
        <TH bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT size=3D-1>5 Years</FONT></TH></TR>
      <TR>
        <TD bgColor=3D#ffffff><FONT size=3D-1>Sales %</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-11.70</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>15.54</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-14.53</FONT></TD></TR>
      <TR>
        <TD bgColor=3D#ffffff><FONT size=3D-1>EPS %</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>NM</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>NM</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>NM</FONT></TD></TR>
      <TR>
        <TD bgColor=3D#ffffff><FONT size=3D-1>Dividend %</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>NM</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>NM</FONT></TD>
        <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT=20
    size=3D-1>NM</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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            <COLGROUP>
            <COL width=3D"20%">
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              <TH bgColor=3D#ffffff colSpan=3D5><FONT =
size=3D-1>REVENUE</FONT></TH></TR>
            <TR>
              <TH align=3Dleft bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>Quarters</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dmiddle bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>1998</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dmiddle bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>1999</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dmiddle bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>2000</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dmiddle bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>2001</FONT></TH></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD><FONT size=3D-1>MAR</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>8,343</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>12,988</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>13,334</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>14,295</FONT></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD><FONT size=3D-1>JUN</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>10,850</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>15,401</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>13,741</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>17,392</FONT></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD><FONT size=3D-1>SEP</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>12,385</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>15,381</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>12,858</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>18,516</FONT></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD><FONT size=3D-1>DEC</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>13,484</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>15,496</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>12,399</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1></FONT></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD bgColor=3D#dddddd colSpan=3D5></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TH align=3Dleft bgColor=3D#ffffff><FONT =
size=3D-1>Totals</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>45,062</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>59,266</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>52,332</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>50,203</FONT></TH></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#dddddd colSpan=3D5><FONT=20
                size=3D-1><B>Note:&nbsp;&nbsp;</B>Units in Thousands of =
U.S.=20
                Dollars</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR>
      <TR>
        <TD bgColor=3D#ffffff>&nbsp;</TD></TR>
      <TR>
        <TD>
          <TABLE cellSpacing=3D1 cols=3D5 cellPadding=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
bgColor=3D#ffffff=20
          border=3D0>
            <COLGROUP>
            <COL width=3D"20%">
            <COL width=3D"20%">
            <COL width=3D"20%">
            <COL width=3D"20%">
            <COL width=3D"20%">
            <TBODY>
            <TR>
              <TH bgColor=3D#ffffff colSpan=3D5><FONT size=3D-1>EARNINGS =
PER=20
                SHARE</FONT></TH></TR>
            <TR>
              <TH align=3Dleft bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>Quarters</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dmiddle bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>1998</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dmiddle bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>1999</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dmiddle bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>2000</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dmiddle bgColor=3D#dddddd><FONT =
size=3D-1>2001</FONT></TH></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD><FONT size=3D-1>MAR</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-0.070</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>0.010</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>0.050</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>-0.040</FONT></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD><FONT size=3D-1>JUN</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-0.060</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>0.080</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>0.010</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>0.160</FONT></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD><FONT size=3D-1>SEP</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>0.020</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>0.140</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-0.020</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>0.230</FONT></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD><FONT size=3D-1>DEC</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-0.030</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>0.210</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-0.060</FONT></TD>
              <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1></FONT></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD bgColor=3D#dddddd colSpan=3D5></TD></TR>
            <TR>
              <TH align=3Dleft bgColor=3D#ffffff><FONT =
size=3D-1>Totals</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-0.140</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>0.440</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dright bgColor=3D#eeeeee><FONT =
size=3D-1>-0.020</FONT></TH>
              <TH align=3Dright><FONT size=3D-1>0.350</FONT></TH></TR>
            <TR>
              <TD align=3Dright bgColor=3D#dddddd colSpan=3D5><FONT=20
                size=3D-1><B>Note:&nbsp;&nbsp;</B>Units in U.S.=20
            =
Dollars</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dstkguru@netside.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">Tom=20
      Worley</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 19, =
2002 8:27=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re:ELTE (was =
[CANSLIM]=20
      Katherine-Opinion please?]</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Katherine,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I see 16 cents as easy based on the last 4 =

      sequential quarters (last two were 16 and 23 cents). Sales appear =
to be=20
      accelerating thru Q3, so even a moderate slowdown in acceleration =
should=20
      still leave them well over 16 cents/qtr.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
      TexWorley</DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20
        Malm</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January =
19, 2002=20
        9:09 AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re:ELTE (was =
[CANSLIM]=20
        Katherine-Opinion please?]</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV>Tom, Ian</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Just curious...where do you get $.16/Q EPS estimates? I =
took a=20
        *very* quick glance at the last 10Q, are you basing this on the=20
        acquisition in 2000?</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
        style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          <A title=3Dstkguru@netside.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">Tom=20
          Worley</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
          </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January =
19, 2002=20
          12:25 AM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re:ELTE =
(was=20
          [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I agree, Ian. My second trip on this =
stock has=20
          nearly made up the loss from the first voyage. Looks more =
promising=20
          now than the first time I tried it. Sequential growth =
particularly=20
          impressive.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
          TexWorley</DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
          style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
            <DIV=20
            style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
            <A title=3Dianstm@shaw.ca =
href=3D"mailto:ianstm@shaw.ca">Ian</A> </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
            title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
            </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January =
18, 2002=20
            8:01 PM</DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re:ELTE =
(was=20
            [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]</DIV>
            <DIV><BR></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks a lot for the chart analysis. The =
low=20
            volume during the new high to $13.50, and the high volume/no =

            progress days on 1/10, 1/11, and 1/15 were the things that =
concerned=20
            me. I convinced myself that the low-volume high was just a =
case of=20
            'too much, too fast' off the $5 October low. The recent high =

            volume/no movement days&nbsp;are what concern =
me.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=3D2>There shouldn't be much concern with =
P/E. The=20
            company claimed that Q4 2001, and Q1 2002 were already =
filled with=20
            existing backlog, and I figure that a minimum of $0.16 per Q =
is easy=20
            - so 4 months from now, the ttm EPS will be at least $0.70 =
if not=20
            more, and the P/E at current levels would be under 20. Given =
their=20
            industry group and recent growth rate, a much higher price =
could=20
            easily be supported. But I would like to see more signs of =
volume=20
            accumulation here. </FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=3D2>After the next earnings report the IBD =
EPS ranking=20
            should go over 85, and the RS is over 90 already, so it =
should start=20
            appearing on IBD radar screens for the first time - =
including the=20
            weekend review. Perhaps it will be a month or so before the =
next=20
            clear direction becomes visible.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks again,</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ian</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
            style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
              <DIV=20
              style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; =
font-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
              <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net=20
              href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine Malm</A> =
</DIV>
              <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
              title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
              =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
              </DIV>
              <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, =
January 18,=20
              2002 3:36 PM</DIV>
              <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:ELTE =
(was=20
              [CANSLIM] Katherine-Opinion please?]</DIV>
              <DIV><BR></DIV>
              <DIV>Hi Ian,</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>Your question has me wondering whether the sell rules =
that I=20
              follow translate perfectly to thinly traded stocks. But =
I'll tell=20
              you what I see and the way I would read it if I were to =
own=20
              it:</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>-After the B/O at 7.13, stock moves up and =
consolidates for=20
              about 5 weeks. This is a "valid" consolidation so that =
makes the=20
              previous base low 8.01 which was printed on =
11/23/01.</DIV>
              <DIV>-Just as a quick check for "overextension" that means =
that=20
              the stock is 70% above the 200dMA (7.02), 15% above the =
50dMA=20
              (10.43) and 49.6% above the base low (8.01). It gets a =
yellow flag=20
              for being 70% above the 200dMA according to WON's sell =
rule #34,=20
              but does not get a red flag for the Rubberband Sell =
Rule.</DIV>
              <DIV>-After the consolidation and breakout 12/18 the stock =
has=20
              started to show signs of stress. This could easily be =
market=20
              related, but no way to tell.</DIV>
              <DIV>-1/2/02: New high on low volume. Red flag.</DIV>
              <DIV>-1/10/02 &amp; 1/11/02- two days with little or no =
price=20
              progress on high volume. Red flag.</DIV>
              <DIV>-With 1 yellow and 2 red flags I thought it worth =
doing a PE=20
              Extension check. I've reconstructed the PE at the time of =
the B/O=20
              in October using trailing EPS numbers for the prior =
quarters. That=20
              puts it at $7.13/$.29 =3D 24.59. The extension warning =
would then be=20
              a forward PE of 24.59*2.21=3D 54.3. Let's see. DGO doesn't =
have any=20
              estimates, which means it isn't followed by enough =
analysts. I=20
              checked the internet to see if I could find anything and =
ran=20
              across this EPS/Rev snapshot:</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><A=20
              =
href=3D"http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI/mg.asp?target=3D/stocks/companyi=
nformation/highlights&amp;Ticker=3DELTE">http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI=
/mg.asp?target=3D/stocks/companyinformation/highlights&amp;Ticker=3DELTE<=
/A></DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>I am alarmed by the essentially flat revenues over =
the last 4=20
              years, so I am going to go with the EPS estimates in my =
VectorVest=20
              software which reads a measly $.02. That puts the current =
forward=20
              looking PE at $11.98/$0.02 =3D 599! I'll have to mark that =
Red=20
              Flag.</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>One note is that its industry is fairly healthy,=20
              consolidating after rising, not overly extended&nbsp;and =
currently=20
              ranked in the 2nd quartile.</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>I'll let you take it from there!</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
              <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
              style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
- -----=20
</DIV>
                <DIV=20
                style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; =
font-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
                <A title=3Dianstm@shaw.ca =
href=3D"mailto:ianstm@shaw.ca">Ian</A>=20
                </DIV>
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
                title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
                =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
                </DIV>
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, =
January 18,=20
                2002 4:40 PM</DIV>
                <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> =
[CANSLIM]=20
                Katherine - Opinion please?</DIV>
                <DIV><BR></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Would tuesdays distribution day for =
ELTE make=20
                you exit the stock at this point? Do you have any other =
insights=20
                into the chart?</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I would appreciate your analysis - =
it is the=20
                one big recent winner I am wondering what to do with. =
Based on=20
                all of my past experiences, and knowing the companies =
outlook,=20
                my gut tells me that it needs to consolidate =
here,&nbsp;but will=20
                run into the $20's by mid-year. But I'd rather listen to =
the=20
                chart. I fear I've held it long enough that I may be=20
                complacent.</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thank you.</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT=20
          =
size=3D2>Ian</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQU=
OTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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