[CANSLIM] EPS


From: "Scott Gettis" <sgettis@ucla.edu>
Subject: [CANSLIM] EPS
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:58:55 -0800

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when a company buys back shares, does the number of outstanding shares
decrease?  If so, then it is possible for a company to show earnings growth
due to the fact that there are less shares outstanding.  Thus the companys
earnings are not really growing.


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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
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To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
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  Hi Scott,

  The rest of the 41% not owned by management  is owned by SFE, an
"incubator" that has a portfolio of  companies in which it maintains a
substantial portion of the outstanding shares. See
http://www.safeguard.com/investorfs.html for a list. You see this kind of
discrepancy in the numbers quite often when a stock is spun off from a
parent or from an incubator and not all shares are distributed to the public
in the spin off.

  Katherine
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    From: Scott Gettis
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:30 PM
    Subject: [CANSLIM] docc



    dgo list the management ownership as 18%.
    however the (1 - float/total share outstanding)* 100 = 41% ?

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