Re: [CANSLIM] Belated Welcome


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Belated Welcome
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 09:52:31 -0600

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Hi Gary,

Probably not a single person here who hasn't had *exactly* the same =
experience at one time or another. Welcome to the group :))))

One thing I discovered early in 2000 was that the great Bull had been =
masking a whole raft of sloppy selling habits on my part. My first step =
was to "get honest" about what I had and had not been doing by going =
back and doing a fresh post analysis on several years' worth of trades. =
The next thing I did was to write down a checklist of sell rules (which =
I have continued to refine). Last step was to build into my daily =
routine a task that forces me to step through each sell rule on each =
position one by one like a pilot before take-off.* This has made a world =
of difference to me.

Katherine

*OKAY, list....you know I lost focus and didn't do this mid-January and =
you *know* what happened to MCAF!!!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary A. Snyder=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Belated Welcome






  Major error in judgment in moment of confidence or greed. Had my eye =
on this=20
  stock because of the fundamentals( example profit margin 49%), best in =
group=20
  per IBD, earning estimates excellent, upward price movement on the =
chart,=20
  earning and sales increasing, profit margin decreasing from 50% to 46% =
and I=20
  put a little note to wait until after Q report given sell offs in this =

  market even on good reports. So report comes out- beat street by 7 =
cents,=20
  gives guidance of increased estimate for next quarter and year. I =
read, I=20
  like. Market opens stock price starts up I buy too much, stock ends =
day down=20
  about 3.5%. I can not believe- market wrong, I'm right- just a minor =
sell=20
  off. Belated news about unknown analyst (to me) downgrading the stock=20
  because 8.8 million was changed from 90 day debt vehicle to 4 year =
loan.=20
  Very telling blow in retrospect. In other words company having trouble =

  getting paid on time. Oh did I say down 15% that next day?  Now I go =
into=20
  lockup mode like rabbit sitting in middle of expressway. I do remember =

  Barrons article over weekend bringing up old news as they are wont to =
do (I=20
  had subscription to Barrons and hate that weekly even more now) =
Trashing the=20
  company was the last kick that brought ACRT down 45% in one day. So =
here I=20
  am: IBD ratings only a memory, down 55%. Barrons article packed the =
big=20
  punch but analysis very much more to the point. Like the rabbit I'm =
thinking=20
  about getting off the highway. Too early to learn from experience, =
thing=20
  that nags at me is I'm making the same mistakes over and over. I can =
feel=20
  fear but I can't tell if I am doing something greedy until after the =
fact.=20
  Oh by the way you will find me a very open and honest person.  gas175k


  >From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@netside.net>
  >Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  >To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  >Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Belated Welcome
  >Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:14:48 -0500
  >
  >Gary, dare I ask what you are doing in ACRT? Looks like the classic =
falling
  >knife to me on the chart.
  >
  >I have been hit with unexplainable reversals lately, hopefully just a
  >symptom of this uncertain market.
  >
  >Tom Worley
  >stkguru@netside.net
  >AIM: TexWorley
  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: "Gary A. Snyder" <gas175k@hotmail.com>
  >To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  >Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:24 AM
  >Subject: [CANSLIM] Belated Welcome
  >
  >
  > >
  > >
  > > Gang:
  > > Wow, thanks for the response. I am going to read and think about =
these
  > > e-mails. I just entered this chat line and was getting a lot of
  >corrections
  > > because I was sending to majordomo. Also sent a welcome email to =
him.
  >Course
  > > he don't give a darn, just gave me lot of error messages.
  > > As Won says stocks seem to run (as in go up) together.
  > > Don't some of these preachy tutorials in "Investor's Corner" give =
you a
  >pain
  > > especially when the example does not qualify under WON teachings? =
I=20
  >still
  > > read it every day. he he.
  > > Im saving everything Tom Worsley says: 75% speaks for itself.
  > > Currently I am very humble having got hit by a freight train with =
the
  >symbol
  > > ACRT.
  > > I think that no one approach works all the time. A system that =
works in
  >this
  > > environment of trading in a range and sector rotation does not =
work as
  >well
  > > as another approach in a bull market where strong industrial =
groups stay
  > > high in the rating system for extended periods of time. Industrial =

  >groups
  > > strong in a bear market such as defensive groups like Funeral =
Homes=20
  >(talk
  > > about sick), food/meat products( would you believe it) tank when =
the
  >market
  > > thinks the economy has turned the corner.
  > >   I want to stay ahead of the curve.
  > > Hope I can add to the common knowledge in a meaningful way. Always =
open=20
  >to
  > > learn so have been reading the traffic the last week even though I
  >couldn't
  > > make contact. Till next time: gas175k
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
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<DIV>Hi Gary,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Probably not a single person here who hasn't had *exactly* the same =

experience at one time or another. Welcome to the group :))))</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>One thing I discovered early in 2000 was that the great Bull had =
been=20
masking a whole raft of sloppy selling habits on my part. My first step =
was to=20
"get honest" about what I had and had not been doing by going back and =
doing a=20
fresh post analysis on several years' worth of trades. The next thing I =
did was=20
to write down a checklist of sell rules (which I have continued to =
refine). Last=20
step was to build into my daily routine a task that forces me to step =
through=20
each sell rule on each position one by one like a pilot before =
take-off.* This=20
has made a world of difference to me.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>*OKAY, list....you know I lost focus and didn't do this mid-January =
and you=20
*know* what happened to MCAF!!!</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dgas175k@hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:gas175k@hotmail.com">Gary A.=20
  Snyder</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 18, 2002 =
1:50=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Belated=20
  Welcome</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR><BR><BR>Major error in judgment in moment of =
confidence=20
  or greed. Had my eye on this <BR>stock because of the fundamentals( =
example=20
  profit margin 49%), best in group <BR>per IBD, earning estimates =
excellent,=20
  upward price movement on the chart, <BR>earning and sales increasing, =
profit=20
  margin decreasing from 50% to 46% and I <BR>put a little note to wait =
until=20
  after Q report given sell offs in this <BR>market even on good =
reports. So=20
  report comes out- beat street by 7 cents, <BR>gives guidance of =
increased=20
  estimate for next quarter and year. I read, I <BR>like. Market opens =
stock=20
  price starts up I buy too much, stock ends day down <BR>about 3.5%. I =
can not=20
  believe- market wrong, I'm right- just a minor sell <BR>off. Belated =
news=20
  about unknown analyst (to me) downgrading the stock <BR>because 8.8 =
million=20
  was changed from 90 day debt vehicle to 4 year loan. <BR>Very telling =
blow in=20
  retrospect. In other words company having trouble <BR>getting paid on =
time. Oh=20
  did I say down 15% that next day?&nbsp; Now I go into <BR>lockup mode =
like=20
  rabbit sitting in middle of expressway. I do remember <BR>Barrons =
article over=20
  weekend bringing up old news as they are wont to do (I <BR>had =
subscription to=20
  Barrons and hate that weekly even more now) Trashing the <BR>company =
was the=20
  last kick that brought ACRT down 45% in one day. So here I <BR>am: IBD =
ratings=20
  only a memory, down 55%. Barrons article packed the big <BR>punch but =
analysis=20
  very much more to the point. Like the rabbit I'm thinking <BR>about =
getting=20
  off the highway. Too early to learn from experience, thing <BR>that =
nags at me=20
  is I'm making the same mistakes over and over. I can feel <BR>fear but =
I can't=20
  tell if I am doing something greedy until after the fact. <BR>Oh by =
the way=20
  you will find me a very open and honest person.&nbsp;=20
  gas175k<BR><BR><BR>&gt;From: "Tom Worley" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;Re=
ply-To:=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;To:=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;Subject:=20
  Re: [CANSLIM] Belated Welcome<BR>&gt;Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:14:48=20
  -0500<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Gary, dare I ask what you are doing in ACRT? =
Looks like=20
  the classic falling<BR>&gt;knife to me on the chart.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I =
have=20
  been hit with unexplainable reversals lately, hopefully just =
a<BR>&gt;symptom=20
  of this uncertain market.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Tom=20
  Worley<BR>&gt;stkguru@netside.net<BR>&gt;AIM: TexWorley<BR>&gt;----- =
Original=20
  Message -----<BR>&gt;From: "Gary A. Snyder" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:gas175k@hotmail.com">gas175k@hotmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;To=
:=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;Sent:=20
  Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:24 AM<BR>&gt;Subject: [CANSLIM] Belated=20
  Welcome<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Gang:<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; Wow, thanks for the response. I am going to read and think about=20
  these<BR>&gt; &gt; e-mails. I just entered this chat line and was =
getting a=20
  lot of<BR>&gt;corrections<BR>&gt; &gt; because I was sending to =
majordomo.=20
  Also sent a welcome email to him.<BR>&gt;Course<BR>&gt; &gt; he don't =
give a=20
  darn, just gave me lot of error messages.<BR>&gt; &gt; As Won says =
stocks seem=20
  to run (as in go up) together.<BR>&gt; &gt; Don't some of these =
preachy=20
  tutorials in "Investor's Corner" give you a<BR>&gt;pain<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  especially when the example does not qualify under WON teachings? I=20
  <BR>&gt;still<BR>&gt; &gt; read it every day. he he.<BR>&gt; &gt; Im =
saving=20
  everything Tom Worsley says: 75% speaks for itself.<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Currently I=20
  am very humble having got hit by a freight train with=20
  the<BR>&gt;symbol<BR>&gt; &gt; ACRT.<BR>&gt; &gt; I think that no one =
approach=20
  works all the time. A system that works in<BR>&gt;this<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  environment of trading in a range and sector rotation does not work=20
  as<BR>&gt;well<BR>&gt; &gt; as another approach in a bull market where =
strong=20
  industrial groups stay<BR>&gt; &gt; high in the rating system for =
extended=20
  periods of time. Industrial <BR>&gt;groups<BR>&gt; &gt; strong in a =
bear=20
  market such as defensive groups like Funeral Homes =
<BR>&gt;(talk<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  about sick), food/meat products( would you believe it) tank when=20
  the<BR>&gt;market<BR>&gt; &gt; thinks the economy has turned the=20
  corner.<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I want to stay ahead of the =
curve.<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; Hope I can add to the common knowledge in a meaningful way. =
Always open=20
  <BR>&gt;to<BR>&gt; &gt; learn so have been reading the traffic the =
last week=20
  even though I<BR>&gt;couldn't<BR>&gt; &gt; make contact. Till next =
time:=20
  gas175k<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
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