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Dan,
Hah! Scratch the surface and you get to the real person beneath the =
core...glad to see yours has a sense of humor under all that =
crustiness...enjoyed the exchange this weekend....have a great trading =
day tomorrow,
Katherine
PS Guess I better call my brother-in-law-the-lawyer and tell him to =
brush up on his won't-share-stock-picks law.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dan Forant=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
Katherine,
We'll just have to get a Court Order and have you hand over your =
knowledge and stock picks. :-)
From the politically correct,
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Katherine Malm=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
Hi Duke,
I believe that what you are suggesting is something that already =
goes on quite frequently on the list. That is, people share their read =
on a stock from both fundamental and technical perspectives. These =
"examples" as you call them are instructive and I agree with you on that =
count. I have 3 binders full of "lessons" that I've acquired over the =
years from others, from my own observations/successes/failures, from the =
IBD, from 2 of the advanced IBD seminars and from this list. But I still =
won't submit a stock and say "you should buy this because xyz." While I =
am looking to enter a trade or while I am in the trade I really don't =
want to attract *more* eyes to the stock. I would prefer that we =
accomplish what you are suggesting by doing post analysis instead. And =
honestly, why should I submit the conclusions of all my hard work in =
stock selection so that others (especially non-contributors) can make =
money? I'll gladly share knowledge and take on a debate so as to learn =
something, but I won't share stock picks. I'm sure there are others who =
feel the same but are less willing to admit it publicly.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke Miller=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
Katherine:
I understand TOTALLY your opinion; I joined this list for many of =
the same reasons you did. =20
But...your rationale for joining this list only SUPPORTS my =
concept. What better way to become adept and expand your horizons =
regarding CANSLIM than with real life, actual examples, I.e., our =
LIMITED submissions of potential CANSLIM stocks (not "stock picks") for =
the Mother List? =20
Have you been to a CANSLIM seminar? I don't know about you, but =
90% of my takeaway is in the form of actual charts illustrating real =
life situations with notes as to the discussions. I see a lot of that =
in the Mother list: Forcing "members" to justify their picks before =
they make this list has immense educational potential. In other words, =
don't tell us you think this is a good pick....tell us WHY!
So, my intent is NOT to have the concept become a list of stock =
picks. Rather, a list of stocks that students of CANSLIM are dxxn near =
willing to fight for; stocks they don't want to see removed from the =
list for this reason or that; stocks they (and all others) can =
potentially make money on. My wording about "CANSLIM this and CANSLIM =
that" was poorly chosen. I didn't mean to imply boredom. But if all =
that CANSLIM this and CANSLIM that is backed up by actual real life, =
this is my money examples....won't it mean more?
(Not to beat a dead horse, but did you see in the Sunday WSJ that =
Southwest Airlines is going to change their system. No more colored =
boarding cards. Even they are looking at the world a bit differently.)
Debate on!
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:20 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
Hi Duke,
I've been mulling over your "mother of all lists" idea all day. =
I understand your desire to share "collective wisdom" regarding stock =
picks, but I don't agree with it, for the same reason you listed in your =
comment (b). Even more so, however, when I was reviewing archives in =
many communities in order to decide which list to join, one of the =
things I looked for was a community that hadn't reduced discussion of =
CANSLIM down to endless stock "picks" but instead a discussion of the =
underlying principles that make CANSLIM tick; processes for finding and =
evaluating stocks; clarifications of investing concepts; and practice in =
the interpretation of technicals, fundamentals, market health and =
CANSLIM guidelines. While some may argue that such discussion makes =
CANSLIM overly complex, I think this is precisely what makes this a =
community that helps to build knowledgeable CANSLIMers. In my mind, it =
is the exchange of ideas and viewpoints, not stock picks, which creates =
value.
Southwest Airlines has had many copycat competitors over the =
years, attracted to the business by the notion that following =
Southwest's "simple" approach to flying was easy and repeatable. All of =
the early copycats' businesses failed because they did not understand =
the most important part of Southwest's strategy, i.e., that many =
dedicated people work exceptionally hard and utilize a complex =
systematic approach to doing business that *appears* to be simple to the =
customers who fly with them.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke Miller=20
To: Canslim@Lists. Xmission. Com=20
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
Being new to this list, I'd like to share a few observations =
and proffer a
what-if.
a) Working through this market, tugging constantly with my =
buy checklist,
it helps to have company that's a) knowledgeable, b) =
successful (or
committed to striving for it), and c) CERTAINLY unbiased!
b) The debate herein over the merits of CANSLIM-this and/or =
CANSLIM-that is
unending (as it should be). The arguments haven't changed =
since the concept
was developed. NO matter how hard we try to stay between the =
lines, we each
have our own variation(s), don't we?
c) It seems we're all watch-listing and waiting, ever =
confident the
market's going to eventually break out ONLY when it's ready =
to. I agree with
Katherine, that we can certainly "mine" some winners these =
days. I've got
two that are showing promise, buy a dozen more I've been =
"whipsawed" out of.
(One thing WON taught me is not to "hide" from my blunders, =
rather study and
learn from them. I still hate doing that!)
I think you'll all agree, trying to unearth the one stock in =
four that
doesn't shake us out unmercifully in this market we're in is =
not fun. So
here's a what if from the glistening Gulf shores of Anna =
Maria Island: Is
it conceivable we might better devote our time to channeling =
our collective
energies toward building "all-star" watch list? One that, =
when the M does
turn, we can be ready in the wings?
Forgive me if the thought isn't totally developed yet (or =
original to this
group), but what if...those interested "sign up" to each =
"nominate" one,
two, or three personal-favorite watch stocks. Ones you'd buy =
for your own
mother! (The "mother" of all lists???) And we take that =
list, follow its
contents' progress together and, on-going, "debate" the merits =
of each
"nomination," old or new.
Just today we got lists from Tim and John; I wonder which =
three from each
list they'd nominate for the Mother List?
IMHO, this: a) would help us expand and refine our own lists; =
b) steepen our
CANSLIM learning curves via the debates; c) benefit all of us =
when the
tide(s) turn; and c), would be a source for a little fun =
(while we wait for
M)!
If there's enough interest, I'll be glad to suggest a =
nomination checklist
which we can improvise as we go along, etc, etc, etc. So what =
do you think?
A final note: I'm out of town until Thursday, but will be =
monitoring as
best I can from my remote hotmail account, iffy at best. =
Worst case
scenario, I'll compile a wrap-up of your input by week's end.
Duke
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<DIV>Dan,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hah! Scratch the surface and you get to the real person beneath the =
core...glad to see yours has a sense of humor under all that=20
crustiness...enjoyed the exchange this weekend....have a great trading =
day=20
tomorrow,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>PS Guess I better call my brother-in-law-the-lawyer and tell him to =
brush=20
up on his won't-share-stock-picks law.</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddforant1@nycap.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com">Dan=20
Forant</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 24, 2002 =
7:57=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Date: =
Sun, 24 Feb=20
2002 15:11:27 -0500</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Katherine,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We'll just have to get a Court Order =
and have you=20
hand over your knowledge and stock picks. :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From the politically =
correct,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DanF</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20
Malm</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 24, =
2002 7:10=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Date: =
Sun, 24=20
Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Duke,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I believe that what you are suggesting is something that =
already goes=20
on quite frequently on the list. That is, people share their read on =
a stock=20
from both fundamental and technical perspectives. These "examples" =
as you=20
call them are instructive and I agree with you on that count. I have =
3=20
binders full of "lessons" that I've acquired over the years from =
others,=20
from my own observations/successes/failures, from the IBD, from 2 of =
the=20
advanced IBD seminars and from this list. But I still won't submit a =
stock=20
and say "you should buy this because xyz." While I am looking to =
enter a=20
trade or while I am in the trade I really don't want to attract =
*more* eyes=20
to the stock. I would prefer that we accomplish what you are =
suggesting by=20
doing post analysis instead. And honestly, why should I submit the=20
conclusions of all my hard work in stock selection so that =
others=20
(especially non-contributors) can make money? I'll gladly share =
knowledge=20
and take on a debate so as to learn something, but I =
won't=20
share stock picks. I'm sure there are others who feel the same =
but are=20
less willing to admit it publicly.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddukemill@tampabay.rr.com=20
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">Duke Miller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 24, =
2002 5:50=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
Date: Sun, 24=20
Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Katherine:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT face=3DArial>I =
understand TOTALLY=20
your opinion; I joined this list for many of the same reasons you=20
did. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT =
face=3DArial>But...your rationale=20
for joining this list only SUPPORTS my concept. What =
better way=20
to become adept and expand your horizons regarding CANSLIM than =
with real=20
life, actual examples, I.e., our LIMITED submissions of potential =
CANSLIM=20
stocks (not "stock picks") for the Mother List? =20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT face=3DArial>Have you =
been to a=20
CANSLIM seminar? I don't know about you, but 90% of my =
takeaway is in the form of actual charts illustrating real life =
situations=20
with notes as to the discussions. I see a lot of that =
in the=20
Mother list: Forcing "members" to justify their picks before =
they=20
make this list has immense educational potential. In other =
words,=20
don't tell us you think this is a good pick....tell us=20
WHY!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT face=3DArial>So, my =
intent is NOT=20
to have the concept become a list of stock picks. Rather, a =
list of=20
stocks that students of CANSLIM are dxxn near willing to fight =
for; stocks=20
they don't want to see removed from the list for this reason or =
that;=20
stocks they (and all others) can potentially make money on. =
My=20
wording about "CANSLIM this and CANSLIM that" was poorly =
chosen. I=20
didn't mean to imply boredom. But if all that CANSLIM this =
and=20
CANSLIM that is backed up by actual real life, this is my money=20
examples....won't it mean more?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT face=3DArial>(Not to =
beat a dead=20
horse, but did you see in the Sunday WSJ that Southwest =
Airlines is=20
going to change their system. No more colored boarding =
cards. =20
Even they are looking at the world a bit =
differently.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT face=3DArial>Debate=20
on!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D449094023-24022002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Katherine=20
Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:20 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Date: Sun,=20
24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Duke,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I've been mulling over your "mother of all lists" idea all =
day. I=20
understand your desire to share "collective wisdom" regarding =
stock=20
picks, but I don't agree with it, for the same reason you listed =
in your=20
comment (b). Even more so, however, when I was reviewing =
archives in=20
many communities in order to decide which list to join, one of =
the=20
things I looked for was a community that hadn't reduced =
discussion of=20
CANSLIM down to endless stock "picks" but instead a discussion =
of the=20
underlying principles that make CANSLIM tick; processes for =
finding and=20
evaluating stocks; clarifications of investing=20
concepts; and practice in the interpretation of =
technicals,=20
fundamentals, market health and CANSLIM guidelines. While some =
may argue=20
that such discussion makes CANSLIM overly complex, I think this =
is=20
precisely what makes this a community that helps to build =
knowledgeable=20
CANSLIMers. In my mind, it is the exchange of ideas and =
viewpoints, not=20
stock picks, which creates value.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Southwest Airlines has had many copycat competitors over =
the years,=20
attracted to the business by the notion that following =
Southwest's=20
"simple" approach to flying was easy and repeatable. All of the =
early=20
copycats' businesses failed because they did not understand the =
most=20
important part of Southwest's strategy, i.e., that many =
dedicated people=20
work exceptionally hard and utilize a complex systematic =
approach to=20
doing business that *appears* to be simple to the customers who =
fly with=20
them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddukemill@tampabay.rr.com=20
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">Duke Miller</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Canslim@Lists. Xmission. Com">Canslim@Lists. =
Xmission.=20
Com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February =
24, 2002=20
2:12 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] =
Date: Sun, 24=20
Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Being new to this list, I'd like to share a few =
observations and proffer a<BR>what-if.<BR><BR>a) Working =
through=20
this market, tugging constantly with my buy checklist,<BR>it =
helps to=20
have company that's a) knowledgeable, b) successful =
(or<BR>committed=20
to striving for it), and c) CERTAINLY =
unbiased!<BR><BR>b) The=20
debate herein over the merits of CANSLIM-this and/or =
CANSLIM-that=20
is<BR>unending (as it should be). The arguments haven't =
changed=20
since the concept<BR>was developed. NO matter how hard =
we try to=20
stay between the lines, we each<BR>have our own variation(s), =
don't=20
we?<BR><BR>c) It seems we're all watch-listing and =
waiting, ever=20
confident the<BR>market's going to eventually break out ONLY =
when it's=20
ready to. I agree with<BR>Katherine, that we can certainly =
"mine" some=20
winners these days. I've got<BR>two that are showing =
promise,=20
buy a dozen more I've been "whipsawed" out of.<BR>(One thing =
WON=20
taught me is not to "hide" from my blunders, rather study =
and<BR>learn=20
from them. I still hate doing that!)<BR><BR>I think =
you'll all=20
agree, trying to unearth the one stock in four that<BR>doesn't =
shake=20
us out unmercifully in this market we're in is not fun. =20
So<BR>here's a what if from the glistening Gulf shores =
of Anna=20
Maria Island: Is<BR>it conceivable we might better =
devote our=20
time to channeling our collective<BR>energies toward building=20
"all-star" watch list? One that, when the M =
does<BR>turn, we can=20
be ready in the wings?<BR><BR>Forgive me if the thought isn't =
totally=20
developed yet (or original to this<BR>group), but what =
if...those=20
interested "sign up" to each "nominate" one,<BR>two, or three=20
personal-favorite watch stocks. Ones you'd buy for your=20
own<BR>mother! (The "mother" of all lists???) And =
we take=20
that list, follow its<BR>contents' progress together and, =
on-going,=20
"debate" the merits of each<BR>"nomination," old or =
new.<BR><BR>Just=20
today we got lists from Tim and John; I wonder which =
three from=20
each<BR>list they'd nominate for the Mother List?<BR><BR>IMHO, =
this:=20
a) would help us expand and refine our own lists; b) steepen=20
our<BR>CANSLIM learning curves via the debates; c) benefit all =
of us=20
when the<BR>tide(s) turn; and c), would be a source for a =
little fun=20
(while we wait for<BR>M)!<BR><BR>If there's enough interest, =
I'll be=20
glad to suggest a nomination checklist<BR>which we can =
improvise as we=20
go along, etc, etc, etc. So what do you think?<BR><BR>A =
final=20
note: I'm out of town until Thursday, but will be =
monitoring=20
as<BR>best I can from my remote hotmail account, iffy at =
best. =20
Worst case<BR>scenario, I'll compile a wrap-up of your input =
by week's=20
end.<BR><BR>Duke<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-<BR>-To=20
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