AW: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500


From: Andreas Himmelreich <judgejimmy@web.de>
Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
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Hi Katherine,

I agree, I also do believe that the best part of a list like is to =
exchange=20
knowledge on the method not on the outcome.
Nevertheless some collective Mining has been done before, lots of lists=20
have been posted. I have a look in these lists once in a while. If I =
find=20
something nice,

I ask my self, if the stock was on my screen as well if not why not.
That might change my screen or add another screen. I just added a micro =
cap=20
screen and I will program a flag for my database, which tells me which=20
microcap had a big volume surges. I might not even use the screen, but =
it=20
adds another piece.

What should be really avoided is hyping stocks or stocks lists and guru=20
type of promoting and "ego discussions" where one individual
is bashing the others favorites just for the sake of scoring egocentric=20
virtual points.

But I believe we all are going to keep that in check, I think the list =
is=20
in great shape.
Some stronger words, some irony here and there, but nothing serious =
(Though=20
I am not that good at judging this, because its not my first language),=20
thats the salt in the soupe.

Best Regards

Andreas

Another Remark on the sidelines: Groups like this are much better in the =
US=20
then they are in Germany. Compliment !!!
Another Compliment: Salt Lake Olympics where great !!! Fantastic=20
Organization, German Athletes and visitors where really overwhelmed by =
the=20
warm, friendly US People !!! Thank you USA!!!


> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von:	Katherine Malm [SMTP:kmalm@earthlink.net]
> Gesendet am:	Monday, February 25, 2002 2:54 PM
> An:	canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Betreff:	Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
>
> Morning, Tom.
>
> It was a funny thing admitting those feelings to the list as I don't=20
think I had even admitted it to myself in quite those words. But the =
truth=20
is, I'll go out of my way to help absolutely anybody, share what I know =
so=20
that others can become better investors, and ask plenty of questions and =

listen in order to learn from others and become a better investor =
myself.=20
 But by golly....when it comes to my money and the issue of privacy....I =

look at it very differently. There are only of couple of things I =
*won't*=20
do....discuss specifics on performance, tell people what stocks I'm =
looking=20
to buy/short, or reveal the positions I'm currently in. Short list, but=20
that's just part of the guidelines I've set.
>
> I can't say I'm all that thrilled about the list turning into some big =

"collective mining effort," but Duke's a sport for bringing it up and I=20
admire his in-your-face attitude about getting the effort underway as =
there=20
*are* list members who will benefit.
>
> Have a great day,
> Katherine
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tom Worley
>   To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>   Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:36 AM
>   Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
>
>
>   Katherine, I am quite willing to admit the same thing, I put a huge=20
amount of work into my investing, and intend that I benefit from it. My=20
style is strictly my own, and I have found that since I gave up handling =

retail clients that I make far better decisions for myself without the=20
responsibility for others. I am sure many members must have thought I =
was=20
insane a few weeks ago when I mentioned that I not only fully invested =
my=20
cash acct, but went to the full margin limits as well. Despite a very=20
dismal "M" since then, I am up over 13% (and yeah, for the doubters I =
can=20
prove it) and could once again cash out and sit in a money market for =
the=20
rest of the year. But I don't expect to do that, since I prefer to be=20
invested than in cash.
>
>   Profits can be made on the long side even in a poor market, even if=20
shorting, with its higher risks, may be easier. So long as I continue to =

enjoy the challenge, and need to earn extra money, and it continues to =
work=20
for me, I will pursue my style of investing but not share my stock =
picks.
>
>   Tom Worley
>   stkguru@netside.net
>   AIM: TexWorley
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Katherine Malm
>     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>     Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:10 PM
>     Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
>
>
>     Hi Duke,
>
>     I believe that what you are suggesting is something that already =
goes=20
on quite frequently on the list. That is, people share their read on a=20
stock from both fundamental and technical perspectives. These "examples" =
as=20
you call them are instructive and I agree with you on that count. I have =
3=20
binders full of "lessons" that I've acquired over the years from others, =

from my own observations/successes/failures, from the IBD, from 2 of the =

advanced IBD seminars and from this list. But I still won't submit a =
stock=20
and say "you should buy this because xyz." While I am looking to enter a =

trade or while I am in the trade I really don't want to attract *more* =
eyes=20
to the stock. I would prefer that we accomplish what you are suggesting =
by=20
doing post analysis instead. And honestly, why should I submit the=20
conclusions of all my hard work in stock selection so that others=20
(especially non-contributors) can make money? I'll gladly share =
knowledge=20
and take on a debate so as to learn something,  but I won't share stock=20
picks. I'm sure there are others who feel the same but are less willing =
to=20
admit it publicly.
>
>     Katherine
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Duke Miller
>       To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>       Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 5:50 PM
>       Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
>
>
>       Katherine:
>
>       I understand TOTALLY your opinion; I joined this list for many =
of=20
the same reasons you did.
>
>       But...your rationale for joining this list only SUPPORTS my=20
concept.  What better way to become adept and expand your horizons=20
regarding CANSLIM than with real life, actual examples, I.e., our =
LIMITED=20
submissions of potential CANSLIM stocks (not "stock picks") for the =
Mother=20
List?
>
>       Have you been to a CANSLIM seminar?   I don't know about you, =
but=20
90% of my takeaway is in the form of actual charts illustrating real =
life=20
situations with notes as to the discussions.  I see a lot of that in the =

Mother list:  Forcing "members" to justify their picks before they make=20
this list has immense educational potential.  In other words, don't tell =
us=20
you think this is a good pick....tell us WHY!
>
>       So, my intent is NOT to have the concept become a list of stock=20
picks.  Rather, a list of stocks that students of CANSLIM are dxxn near=20
willing to fight for; stocks they don't want to see removed from the =
list=20
for this reason or that; stocks they (and all others) can potentially =
make=20
money on.  My wording about "CANSLIM this and CANSLIM that" was poorly=20
chosen.  I didn't mean to imply boredom.  But if all that CANSLIM this =
and=20
CANSLIM that is backed up by actual real life, this is my money examples =
=20
....won't it mean more?
>
>       (Not to beat a dead horse, but did you see in the Sunday WSJ =
that=20
Southwest Airlines is going to change their system.  No more colored=20
boarding cards.  Even they are looking at the world a bit differently.)
>
>       Debate on!
>
>       Duke
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
>         Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:20 PM
>         To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>         Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
>
>
>         Hi Duke,
>
>         I've been mulling over your "mother of all lists" idea all =
day. I=20
understand your desire to share "collective wisdom" regarding stock =
picks,=20
but I don't agree with it, for the same reason you listed in your =
comment=20
(b). Even more so, however, when I was reviewing archives in many=20
communities in order to decide which list to join, one of the things I=20
looked for was a community that hadn't reduced discussion of CANSLIM =
down=20
to endless stock "picks" but instead a discussion of the underlying=20
principles that make CANSLIM tick; processes for finding and evaluating=20
stocks; clarifications of investing concepts; and practice in the=20
interpretation of technicals, fundamentals, market health and CANSLIM=20
guidelines. While some may argue that such discussion makes CANSLIM =
overly=20
complex, I think this is precisely what makes this a community that =
helps=20
to build knowledgeable CANSLIMers. In my mind, it is the exchange of =
ideas=20
and viewpoints, not stock picks, which creates value.
>
>         Southwest Airlines has had many copycat competitors over the=20
years, attracted to the business by the notion that following =
Southwest's=20
"simple" approach to flying was easy and repeatable. All of the early=20
copycats' businesses failed because they did not understand the most=20
important part of Southwest's strategy, i.e., that many dedicated people =

work exceptionally hard and utilize a complex systematic approach to =
doing=20
business that *appears* to be simple to the customers who fly with them.
>
>         Katherine
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Duke Miller
>           To: Canslim@Lists. Xmission. Com
>           Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 2:12 PM
>           Subject: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
>
>
>           Being new to this list, I'd like to share a few observations =

and proffer a
>           what-if.
>
>           a)  Working through this market, tugging constantly with my =
buy=20
checklist,
>           it helps to have company that's a) knowledgeable, b) =
successful=20
(or
>           committed to striving for it), and c) CERTAINLY unbiased!
>
>           b)  The debate herein over the merits of CANSLIM-this and/or =

CANSLIM-that is
>           unending (as it should be).  The arguments haven't changed=20
since the concept
>           was developed.  NO matter how hard we try to stay between =
the=20
lines, we each
>           have our own variation(s), don't we?
>
>           c)  It seems we're all watch-listing and waiting, ever=20
confident the
>           market's going to eventually break out ONLY when it's ready =
to.=20
I agree with
>           Katherine, that we can certainly "mine" some winners these=20
days.  I've got
>           two that are showing promise, buy a dozen more I've been=20
"whipsawed" out of.
>           (One thing WON taught me is not to "hide" from my blunders,=20
rather study and
>           learn from them.  I still hate doing that!)
>
>           I think you'll all agree, trying to unearth the one stock in =

four that
>           doesn't shake us out unmercifully in this market we're in is =

not fun.  So
>           here's a  what if from the glistening Gulf shores of Anna =
Maria=20
Island:  Is
>           it conceivable we might better devote our time to channeling =

our collective
>           energies toward building "all-star" watch list?  One that, =
when=20
the M does
>           turn, we can be ready in the wings?
>
>           Forgive me if the thought isn't totally developed yet (or=20
original to this
>           group), but what if...those interested "sign up" to each=20
"nominate" one,
>           two, or three personal-favorite watch stocks.  Ones you'd =
buy=20
for your own
>           mother! (The "mother" of all lists???)   And we take that =
list,=20
follow its
>           contents' progress together and, on-going, "debate" the =
merits=20
of each
>           "nomination," old or new.
>
>           Just today we got lists from Tim and John;  I wonder which=20
three from each
>           list they'd nominate for the Mother List?
>
>           IMHO, this: a) would help us expand and refine our own =
lists;=20
b) steepen our
>           CANSLIM learning curves via the debates; c) benefit all of =
us=20
when the
>           tide(s) turn; and c), would be a source for a little fun =
(while=20
we wait for
>           M)!
>
>           If there's enough interest, I'll be glad to suggest a=20
nomination checklist
>           which we can improvise as we go along, etc, etc, etc.  So =
what=20
do you think?
>
>           A final note:  I'm out of town until Thursday, but will be=20
monitoring as
>           best I can from my remote hotmail account, iffy at best.  =
Worst=20
case
>           scenario, I'll compile a wrap-up of your input by week's =
end.
>
>           Duke
>
>
>
>
>
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