Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500


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Patrick and Andreas,

You both make excellent points. Andreas, you have perhaps zeroed in on =
my greatest fear...that the list will become a Yahoo wasteland of stock =
lists and "egocentric virtual points." I should have given the members =
more credit, as in the past it has never been the majority tone of the =
list. Patrick, you are *so* right about the differences between =
individuals and what they consider to be "private." Thanks to both of =
you for your comments.

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Andreas Himmelreich=20
  To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:21 AM
  Subject: AW: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500


  Hi Katherine,

  I agree, I also do believe that the best part of a list like is to =
exchange=20
  knowledge on the method not on the outcome.
  Nevertheless some collective Mining has been done before, lots of =
lists=20
  have been posted. I have a look in these lists once in a while. If I =
find=20
  something nice,

  I ask my self, if the stock was on my screen as well if not why not.
  That might change my screen or add another screen. I just added a =
micro cap=20
  screen and I will program a flag for my database, which tells me which =

  microcap had a big volume surges. I might not even use the screen, but =
it=20
  adds another piece.

  What should be really avoided is hyping stocks or stocks lists and =
guru=20
  type of promoting and "ego discussions" where one individual
  is bashing the others favorites just for the sake of scoring =
egocentric=20
  virtual points.

  But I believe we all are going to keep that in check, I think the list =
is=20
  in great shape.
  Some stronger words, some irony here and there, but nothing serious =
(Though=20
  I am not that good at judging this, because its not my first =
language),=20
  thats the salt in the soupe.

  Best Regards

  Andreas

  Another Remark on the sidelines: Groups like this are much better in =
the US=20
  then they are in Germany. Compliment !!!
  Another Compliment: Salt Lake Olympics where great !!! Fantastic=20
  Organization, German Athletes and visitors where really overwhelmed by =
the=20
  warm, friendly US People !!! Thank you USA!!!


  > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
  > Von: Katherine Malm [SMTP:kmalm@earthlink.net]
  > Gesendet am: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:54 PM
  > An: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
  >
  > Morning, Tom.
  >
  > It was a funny thing admitting those feelings to the list as I don't =

  think I had even admitted it to myself in quite those words. But the =
truth=20
  is, I'll go out of my way to help absolutely anybody, share what I =
know so=20
  that others can become better investors, and ask plenty of questions =
and=20
  listen in order to learn from others and become a better investor =
myself.=20
   But by golly....when it comes to my money and the issue of =
privacy....I=20
  look at it very differently. There are only of couple of things I =
*won't*=20
  do....discuss specifics on performance, tell people what stocks I'm =
looking=20
  to buy/short, or reveal the positions I'm currently in. Short list, =
but=20
  that's just part of the guidelines I've set.
  >
  > I can't say I'm all that thrilled about the list turning into some =
big=20
  "collective mining effort," but Duke's a sport for bringing it up and =
I=20
  admire his in-your-face attitude about getting the effort underway as =
there=20
  *are* list members who will benefit.
  >
  > Have a great day,
  > Katherine
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Tom Worley
  >   To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  >   Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:36 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
  >
  >
  >   Katherine, I am quite willing to admit the same thing, I put a =
huge=20
  amount of work into my investing, and intend that I benefit from it. =
My=20
  style is strictly my own, and I have found that since I gave up =
handling=20
  retail clients that I make far better decisions for myself without the =

  responsibility for others. I am sure many members must have thought I =
was=20
  insane a few weeks ago when I mentioned that I not only fully invested =
my=20
  cash acct, but went to the full margin limits as well. Despite a very=20
  dismal "M" since then, I am up over 13% (and yeah, for the doubters I =
can=20
  prove it) and could once again cash out and sit in a money market for =
the=20
  rest of the year. But I don't expect to do that, since I prefer to be=20
  invested than in cash.
  >
  >   Profits can be made on the long side even in a poor market, even =
if=20
  shorting, with its higher risks, may be easier. So long as I continue =
to=20
  enjoy the challenge, and need to earn extra money, and it continues to =
work=20
  for me, I will pursue my style of investing but not share my stock =
picks.
  >
  >   Tom Worley
  >   stkguru@netside.net
  >   AIM: TexWorley
  >     ----- Original Message -----
  >     From: Katherine Malm
  >     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  >     Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:10 PM
  >     Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
  >
  >
  >     Hi Duke,
  >
  >     I believe that what you are suggesting is something that already =
goes=20
  on quite frequently on the list. That is, people share their read on a =

  stock from both fundamental and technical perspectives. These =
"examples" as=20
  you call them are instructive and I agree with you on that count. I =
have 3=20
  binders full of "lessons" that I've acquired over the years from =
others,=20
  from my own observations/successes/failures, from the IBD, from 2 of =
the=20
  advanced IBD seminars and from this list. But I still won't submit a =
stock=20
  and say "you should buy this because xyz." While I am looking to enter =
a=20
  trade or while I am in the trade I really don't want to attract *more* =
eyes=20
  to the stock. I would prefer that we accomplish what you are =
suggesting by=20
  doing post analysis instead. And honestly, why should I submit the=20
  conclusions of all my hard work in stock selection so that others=20
  (especially non-contributors) can make money? I'll gladly share =
knowledge=20
  and take on a debate so as to learn something,  but I won't share =
stock=20
  picks. I'm sure there are others who feel the same but are less =
willing to=20
  admit it publicly.
  >
  >     Katherine
  >       ----- Original Message -----
  >       From: Duke Miller
  >       To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  >       Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 5:50 PM
  >       Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
  >
  >
  >       Katherine:
  >
  >       I understand TOTALLY your opinion; I joined this list for many =
of=20
  the same reasons you did.
  >
  >       But...your rationale for joining this list only SUPPORTS my=20
  concept.  What better way to become adept and expand your horizons=20
  regarding CANSLIM than with real life, actual examples, I.e., our =
LIMITED=20
  submissions of potential CANSLIM stocks (not "stock picks") for the =
Mother=20
  List?
  >
  >       Have you been to a CANSLIM seminar?   I don't know about you, =
but=20
  90% of my takeaway is in the form of actual charts illustrating real =
life=20
  situations with notes as to the discussions.  I see a lot of that in =
the=20
  Mother list:  Forcing "members" to justify their picks before they =
make=20
  this list has immense educational potential.  In other words, don't =
tell us=20
  you think this is a good pick....tell us WHY!
  >
  >       So, my intent is NOT to have the concept become a list of =
stock=20
  picks.  Rather, a list of stocks that students of CANSLIM are dxxn =
near=20
  willing to fight for; stocks they don't want to see removed from the =
list=20
  for this reason or that; stocks they (and all others) can potentially =
make=20
  money on.  My wording about "CANSLIM this and CANSLIM that" was poorly =

  chosen.  I didn't mean to imply boredom.  But if all that CANSLIM this =
and=20
  CANSLIM that is backed up by actual real life, this is my money =
examples =20
  ....won't it mean more?
  >
  >       (Not to beat a dead horse, but did you see in the Sunday WSJ =
that=20
  Southwest Airlines is going to change their system.  No more colored=20
  boarding cards.  Even they are looking at the world a bit =
differently.)
  >
  >       Debate on!
  >
  >       Duke
  >         -----Original Message-----
  >         From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
  >         Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:20 PM
  >         To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  >         Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
  >
  >
  >         Hi Duke,
  >
  >         I've been mulling over your "mother of all lists" idea all =
day. I=20
  understand your desire to share "collective wisdom" regarding stock =
picks,=20
  but I don't agree with it, for the same reason you listed in your =
comment=20
  (b). Even more so, however, when I was reviewing archives in many=20
  communities in order to decide which list to join, one of the things I =

  looked for was a community that hadn't reduced discussion of CANSLIM =
down=20
  to endless stock "picks" but instead a discussion of the underlying=20
  principles that make CANSLIM tick; processes for finding and =
evaluating=20
  stocks; clarifications of investing concepts; and practice in the=20
  interpretation of technicals, fundamentals, market health and CANSLIM=20
  guidelines. While some may argue that such discussion makes CANSLIM =
overly=20
  complex, I think this is precisely what makes this a community that =
helps=20
  to build knowledgeable CANSLIMers. In my mind, it is the exchange of =
ideas=20
  and viewpoints, not stock picks, which creates value.
  >
  >         Southwest Airlines has had many copycat competitors over the =

  years, attracted to the business by the notion that following =
Southwest's=20
  "simple" approach to flying was easy and repeatable. All of the early=20
  copycats' businesses failed because they did not understand the most=20
  important part of Southwest's strategy, i.e., that many dedicated =
people=20
  work exceptionally hard and utilize a complex systematic approach to =
doing=20
  business that *appears* to be simple to the customers who fly with =
them.
  >
  >         Katherine
  >
  >         ----- Original Message -----
  >           From: Duke Miller
  >           To: Canslim@Lists. Xmission. Com
  >           Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 2:12 PM
  >           Subject: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 -0500
  >
  >
  >           Being new to this list, I'd like to share a few =
observations=20
  and proffer a
  >           what-if.
  >
  >           a)  Working through this market, tugging constantly with =
my buy=20
  checklist,
  >           it helps to have company that's a) knowledgeable, b) =
successful=20
  (or
  >           committed to striving for it), and c) CERTAINLY unbiased!
  >
  >           b)  The debate herein over the merits of CANSLIM-this =
and/or=20
  CANSLIM-that is
  >           unending (as it should be).  The arguments haven't changed =

  since the concept
  >           was developed.  NO matter how hard we try to stay between =
the=20
  lines, we each
  >           have our own variation(s), don't we?
  >
  >           c)  It seems we're all watch-listing and waiting, ever=20
  confident the
  >           market's going to eventually break out ONLY when it's =
ready to.=20
  I agree with
  >           Katherine, that we can certainly "mine" some winners these =

  days.  I've got
  >           two that are showing promise, buy a dozen more I've been=20
  "whipsawed" out of.
  >           (One thing WON taught me is not to "hide" from my =
blunders,=20
  rather study and
  >           learn from them.  I still hate doing that!)
  >
  >           I think you'll all agree, trying to unearth the one stock =
in=20
  four that
  >           doesn't shake us out unmercifully in this market we're in =
is=20
  not fun.  So
  >           here's a  what if from the glistening Gulf shores of Anna =
Maria=20
  Island:  Is
  >           it conceivable we might better devote our time to =
channeling=20
  our collective
  >           energies toward building "all-star" watch list?  One that, =
when=20
  the M does
  >           turn, we can be ready in the wings?
  >
  >           Forgive me if the thought isn't totally developed yet (or=20
  original to this
  >           group), but what if...those interested "sign up" to each=20
  "nominate" one,
  >           two, or three personal-favorite watch stocks.  Ones you'd =
buy=20
  for your own
  >           mother! (The "mother" of all lists???)   And we take that =
list,=20
  follow its
  >           contents' progress together and, on-going, "debate" the =
merits=20
  of each
  >           "nomination," old or new.
  >
  >           Just today we got lists from Tim and John;  I wonder which =

  three from each
  >           list they'd nominate for the Mother List?
  >
  >           IMHO, this: a) would help us expand and refine our own =
lists;=20
  b) steepen our
  >           CANSLIM learning curves via the debates; c) benefit all of =
us=20
  when the
  >           tide(s) turn; and c), would be a source for a little fun =
(while=20
  we wait for
  >           M)!
  >
  >           If there's enough interest, I'll be glad to suggest a=20
  nomination checklist
  >           which we can improvise as we go along, etc, etc, etc.  So =
what=20
  do you think?
  >
  >           A final note:  I'm out of town until Thursday, but will be =

  monitoring as
  >           best I can from my remote hotmail account, iffy at best.  =
Worst=20
  case
  >           scenario, I'll compile a wrap-up of your input by week's =
end.
  >
  >           Duke
  >
  >
  >
  >
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<DIV>Patrick and Andreas,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You both make excellent points. Andreas, you have perhaps zeroed in =
on my=20
greatest fear...that the list will become a Yahoo wasteland of stock =
lists and=20
"egocentric virtual points." I should have given the members more =
credit, as in=20
the past it has never been the majority&nbsp;tone of the list. Patrick, =
you are=20
*so* right about the differences between individuals and what they =
consider to=20
be "private." Thanks to both of you for your comments.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djudgejimmy@web.de href=3D"mailto:judgejimmy@web.de">Andreas =

  Himmelreich</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 25, 2002 =
8:21=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> AW: [CANSLIM] Date: =
Sun, 24 Feb=20
  2002 15:11:27 -0500</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Katherine,<BR><BR>I agree, I also do believe that =
the best=20
  part of a list like is to exchange <BR>knowledge on the method not on =
the=20
  outcome.<BR>Nevertheless some collective Mining has been done before, =
lots of=20
  lists <BR>have been posted. I have a look in these lists once in a =
while. If I=20
  find <BR>something nice,<BR><BR>I ask my self, if the stock was on my =
screen=20
  as well if not why not.<BR>That might change my screen or add another =
screen.=20
  I just added a micro cap <BR>screen and I will program a flag for my =
database,=20
  which tells me which <BR>microcap had a big volume surges. I might not =
even=20
  use the screen, but it <BR>adds another piece.<BR><BR>What should be =
really=20
  avoided is hyping stocks or stocks lists and guru <BR>type of =
promoting and=20
  "ego discussions" where one individual<BR>is bashing the others =
favorites just=20
  for the sake of scoring egocentric <BR>virtual points.<BR><BR>But I =
believe we=20
  all are going to keep that in check, I think the list is <BR>in great=20
  shape.<BR>Some stronger words, some irony here and there, but nothing =
serious=20
  (Though <BR>I am not that good at judging this, because its not my =
first=20
  language), <BR>thats the salt in the soupe.<BR><BR>Best=20
  Regards<BR><BR>Andreas<BR><BR>Another Remark on the sidelines: Groups =
like=20
  this are much better in the US <BR>then they are in Germany. =
Compliment=20
  !!!<BR>Another Compliment: Salt Lake Olympics where great !!! =
Fantastic=20
  <BR>Organization, German Athletes and visitors where really =
overwhelmed by the=20
  <BR>warm, friendly US People !!! Thank you USA!!!<BR><BR><BR>&gt;=20
  -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----<BR>&gt; Von: Katherine Malm=20
  [SMTP:kmalm@earthlink.net]<BR>&gt; Gesendet am: Monday, February 25, =
2002 2:54=20
  PM<BR>&gt; An: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
  Betreff: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27 =
- -0500<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Morning, Tom.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; It was a funny thing admitting those =
feelings to=20
  the list as I don't <BR>think I had even admitted it to myself in =
quite those=20
  words. But the truth <BR>is, I'll go out of my way to help absolutely =
anybody,=20
  share what I know so <BR>that others can become better investors, and =
ask=20
  plenty of questions and <BR>listen in order to learn from others and =
become a=20
  better investor myself. <BR>&nbsp;But by golly....when it comes to my =
money=20
  and the issue of privacy....I <BR>look at it very differently. There =
are only=20
  of couple of things I *won't* <BR>do....discuss specifics on =
performance, tell=20
  people what stocks I'm looking <BR>to buy/short, or reveal the =
positions I'm=20
  currently in. Short list, but <BR>that's just part of the guidelines =
I've=20
  set.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I can't say I'm all that thrilled about the list =
turning=20
  into some big <BR>"collective mining effort," but Duke's a sport for =
bringing=20
  it up and I <BR>admire his in-your-face attitude about getting the =
effort=20
  underway as there <BR>*are* list members who will =
benefit.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Have a great day,<BR>&gt; Katherine<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- Original =
Message=20
  -----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Tom Worley<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:36 AM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: =
Re:=20
  [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27=20
  -0500<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Katherine, I am quite =
willing to=20
  admit the same thing, I put a huge <BR>amount of work into my =
investing, and=20
  intend that I benefit from it. My <BR>style is strictly my own, and I =
have=20
  found that since I gave up handling <BR>retail clients that I make far =
better=20
  decisions for myself without the <BR>responsibility for others. I am =
sure many=20
  members must have thought I was <BR>insane a few weeks ago when I =
mentioned=20
  that I not only fully invested my <BR>cash acct, but went to the full =
margin=20
  limits as well. Despite a very <BR>dismal "M" since then, I am up over =
13%=20
  (and yeah, for the doubters I can <BR>prove it) and could once again =
cash out=20
  and sit in a money market for the <BR>rest of the year. But I don't =
expect to=20
  do that, since I prefer to be <BR>invested than in=20
  cash.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Profits can be made on the long side =
even in=20
  a poor market, even if <BR>shorting, with its higher risks, may be =
easier. So=20
  long as I continue to <BR>enjoy the challenge, and need to earn extra =
money,=20
  and it continues to work <BR>for me, I will pursue my style of =
investing but=20
  not share my stock picks.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tom=20
  Worley<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@netside.net">stkguru@netside.net</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
  AIM: TexWorley<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- Original Message=20
  -----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Katherine=20
  Malm<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:10 =
PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27=20
  -0500<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi=20
  Duke,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe that what you =
are=20
  suggesting is something that already goes <BR>on quite frequently on =
the list.=20
  That is, people share their read on a <BR>stock from both fundamental =
and=20
  technical perspectives. These "examples" as <BR>you call them are =
instructive=20
  and I agree with you on that count. I have 3 <BR>binders full of =
"lessons"=20
  that I've acquired over the years from others, <BR>from my own=20
  observations/successes/failures, from the IBD, from 2 of the =
<BR>advanced IBD=20
  seminars and from this list. But I still won't submit a stock <BR>and =
say "you=20
  should buy this because xyz." While I am looking to enter a <BR>trade =
or while=20
  I am in the trade I really don't want to attract *more* eyes <BR>to =
the stock.=20
  I would prefer that we accomplish what you are suggesting by <BR>doing =
post=20
  analysis instead. And honestly, why should I submit the =
<BR>conclusions of all=20
  my hard work in stock selection so that others <BR>(especially=20
  non-contributors) can make money? I'll gladly share knowledge <BR>and =
take on=20
  a debate so as to learn something,&nbsp; but I won't share stock =
<BR>picks.=20
  I'm sure there are others who feel the same but are less willing to =
<BR>admit=20
  it publicly.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Katherine<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- Original =
Message=20
  -----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Duke=20
  Miller<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 5:50=20
  PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] =
Date:=20
  Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27=20
  -0500<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Katherine:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
understand=20
  TOTALLY your opinion; I joined this list for many of <BR>the same =
reasons you=20
  did.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But...your =
rationale=20
  for joining this list only SUPPORTS my <BR>concept.&nbsp; What better =
way to=20
  become adept and expand your horizons <BR>regarding CANSLIM than with =
real=20
  life, actual examples, I.e., our LIMITED <BR>submissions of potential =
CANSLIM=20
  stocks (not "stock picks") for the Mother=20
  <BR>List?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Have you =
been to=20
  a CANSLIM seminar?&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't know about you, but <BR>90% of =
my=20
  takeaway is in the form of actual charts illustrating real life =
<BR>situations=20
  with notes as to the discussions.&nbsp; I see a lot of that in the =
<BR>Mother=20
  list:&nbsp; Forcing "members" to justify their picks before they make =
<BR>this=20
  list has immense educational potential.&nbsp; In other words, don't =
tell us=20
  <BR>you think this is a good pick....tell us=20
  WHY!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So, my intent =
is NOT=20
  to have the concept become a list of stock <BR>picks.&nbsp; Rather, a =
list of=20
  stocks that students of CANSLIM are dxxn near <BR>willing to fight =
for; stocks=20
  they don't want to see removed from the list <BR>for this reason or =
that;=20
  stocks they (and all others) can potentially make <BR>money on.&nbsp; =
My=20
  wording about "CANSLIM this and CANSLIM that" was poorly =
<BR>chosen.&nbsp; I=20
  didn't mean to imply boredom.&nbsp; But if all that CANSLIM this and=20
  <BR>CANSLIM that is backed up by actual real life, this is my money=20
  examples&nbsp; <BR>....won't it mean=20
  more?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (Not to beat =
a dead=20
  horse, but did you see in the Sunday WSJ that <BR>Southwest Airlines =
is going=20
  to change their system.&nbsp; No more colored <BR>boarding =
cards.&nbsp; Even=20
  they are looking at the world a bit=20
  differently.)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Debate=20
  on!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Duke<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
- -----Original=20
  Message-----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>=20
  <BR>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine=20
  Malm<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: =
Sunday,=20
  February 24, 2002 6:20=20
  PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27=20
  =
- -0500<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;=20
  Hi =
Duke,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I've=20
  been mulling over your "mother of all lists" idea all day. I =
<BR>understand=20
  your desire to share "collective wisdom" regarding stock picks, =
<BR>but I=20
  don't agree with it, for the same reason you listed in your comment =
<BR>(b).=20
  Even more so, however, when I was reviewing archives in many =
<BR>communities=20
  in order to decide which list to join, one of the things I <BR>looked =
for was=20
  a community that hadn't reduced discussion of CANSLIM down <BR>to =
endless=20
  stock "picks" but instead a discussion of the underlying =
<BR>principles that=20
  make CANSLIM tick; processes for finding and evaluating <BR>stocks;=20
  clarifications of investing concepts; and practice in the =
<BR>interpretation=20
  of technicals, fundamentals, market health and CANSLIM <BR>guidelines. =
While=20
  some may argue that such discussion makes CANSLIM overly <BR>complex, =
I think=20
  this is precisely what makes this a community that helps <BR>to build=20
  knowledgeable CANSLIMers. In my mind, it is the exchange of ideas =
<BR>and=20
  viewpoints, not stock picks, which creates=20
  value.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  Southwest Airlines has had many copycat competitors over the =
<BR>years,=20
  attracted to the business by the notion that following Southwest's=20
  <BR>"simple" approach to flying was easy and repeatable. All of the =
early=20
  <BR>copycats' businesses failed because they did not understand the =
most=20
  <BR>important part of Southwest's strategy, i.e., that many dedicated =
people=20
  <BR>work exceptionally hard and utilize a complex systematic approach =
to doing=20
  <BR>business that *appears* to be simple to the customers who fly with =

  them.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
Katherine<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
  ----- Original Message=20
  =
- -----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
  From: Duke=20
  =
Miller<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; To:=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:Canslim@Lists">Canslim@Lists</A>. Xmission.=20
  =
Com<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Sent:=20
  Sunday, February 24, 2002 2:12=20
  PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  Subject: [CANSLIM] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:11:27=20
  =
- -0500<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Being new to this list, I'd like to share a few observations <BR>and =
proffer=20
  a<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
what-if.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  a)&nbsp; Working through this market, tugging constantly with my buy=20
  =
<BR>checklist,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=20
  it helps to have company that's a) knowledgeable, b) successful=20
  =
<BR>(or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
  committed to striving for it), and c) CERTAINLY=20
  =
unbiased!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  b)&nbsp; The debate herein over the merits of CANSLIM-this and/or=20
  <BR>CANSLIM-that=20
  is<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  unending (as it should be).&nbsp; The arguments haven't changed =
<BR>since the=20
  =
concept<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
  was developed.&nbsp; NO matter how hard we try to stay between the =
<BR>lines,=20
  we =
each<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  have our own variation(s), don't=20
  =
we?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
  c)&nbsp; It seems we're all watch-listing and waiting, ever =
<BR>confident=20
  =
the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  market's going to eventually break out ONLY when it's ready to. <BR>I =
agree=20
  =
with<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  Katherine, that we can certainly "mine" some winners these =
<BR>days.&nbsp;=20
  I've =
got<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  two that are showing promise, buy a dozen more I've been =
<BR>"whipsawed" out=20
  =
of.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
(One=20
  thing WON taught me is not to "hide" from my blunders, <BR>rather =
study=20
  =
and<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
learn=20
  from them.&nbsp; I still hate doing=20
  =
that!)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=20
  I think you'll all agree, trying to unearth the one stock in <BR>four=20
  =
that<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  doesn't shake us out unmercifully in this market we're in is <BR>not=20
  fun.&nbsp;=20
  So<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
here's=20
  a&nbsp; what if from the glistening Gulf shores of Anna Maria=20
  <BR>Island:&nbsp;=20
  Is<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
it=20
  conceivable we might better devote our time to channeling <BR>our=20
  =
collective<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
  energies toward building "all-star" watch list?&nbsp; One that, when =
<BR>the M=20
  =
does<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
turn,=20
  we can be ready in the=20
  =
wings?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=20
  Forgive me if the thought isn't totally developed yet (or <BR>original =
to=20
  =
this<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  group), but what if...those interested "sign up" to each =
<BR>"nominate"=20
  =
one,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
two,=20
  or three personal-favorite watch stocks.&nbsp; Ones you'd buy <BR>for =
your=20
  =
own<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  mother! (The "mother" of all lists???)&nbsp;&nbsp; And we take that =
list,=20
  <BR>follow=20
  =
its<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  contents' progress together and, on-going, "debate" the merits <BR>of=20
  =
each<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  "nomination," old or=20
  =
new.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;=20
  Just today we got lists from Tim and John;&nbsp; I wonder which =
<BR>three from=20
  =
each<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
list=20
  they'd nominate for the Mother=20
  =
List?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
  IMHO, this: a) would help us expand and refine our own lists; <BR>b) =
steepen=20
  =
our<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  CANSLIM learning curves via the debates; c) benefit all of us <BR>when =

  =
the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  tide(s) turn; and c), would be a source for a little fun (while <BR>we =
wait=20
  =
for<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
M)!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=20
  If there's enough interest, I'll be glad to suggest a <BR>nomination=20
  =
checklist<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;=20
  which we can improvise as we go along, etc, etc, etc.&nbsp; So what =
<BR>do you=20
  =
think?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=20
  A final note:&nbsp; I'm out of town until Thursday, but will be =
<BR>monitoring=20
  as<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
best I=20
  can from my remote hotmail account, iffy at best.&nbsp; Worst=20
  =
<BR>case<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;=20
  scenario, I'll compile a wrap-up of your input by week's=20
  =
end.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;=20
  =
Duke<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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