Re: [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux - RJT


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux - RJT
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:00:15 -0600

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Hi Mike,

>>This allows me to run scripts that access the streaming quote =
information and create price and volume alerts.<<

Is this something that can be easily done with the software (for those =
of us that're Web-tech-challenged) or do you need to be a =
scripting/webpage design guru like yourself?

Katherine

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mike Gibbons=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:47 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux - RJT=20


  I use RJT (www.rjt.com). $5 for all trades for active traders =
including real
  time streaming quotes. Absolutely no frills web site but I front-end =
it with
  Medved Quotetracker (www.quotetracker.com) which is free and =
interfaces with
  RJT's streaming quotes and order entry system.

  Best thing about Quotetracker from my perspective is that it includes =
a
  webserver. This allows me to run scripts that access the streaming =
quote
  information and create price and volume alerts.

  Aloha,

  Mike Gibbons
  Proactive Technologies, LLC
  http://www.proactech.com


  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
  [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of david frank
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:19 AM
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux


  I use Schwab too-no real complaints. I  been  curious about Datek-do =
they
  really have fast executions? How about Cybertrader does anyone use =
them? How
  about the comparison between Datek and Cybertrader? David
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Rob Miller" <rmiller2@carolina.rr.com>
  To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux


  > I use Brown and Datek and love them both.  I've been using Brown for
  years.
  > Commissions are cheap ($5 market, $10 Limit) with no add on charges, =
fills
  > are instant, website is extremely reliable and fast.  I've never had =
to
  call
  > and place a trade, but when I have called they pick up very fast.  =
Short
  > supply is excellent.  I like for my broker to basically be invisible =
to
  me.
  > In other words, I can do what I want when I want without any =
headaches.
  > That's Brown.  I'm new to Datek, which is where I have my IRA =
accounts.
  > Very satisfied so far.  Love the real time streaming quotes.  I use =
Medved
  > Quotetracker which I can link to Datek.  You can even trade through
  Medved.
  > I couldn't be happier with my choices.
  >
  > I've never noticed any problems with bid/ask spreads.  I'm usually
  watching
  > real time quotes when I trade and I can see my trade instantly.  It =
goes
  off
  > at the ask, which is what I want.  Limit orders also work great.
  >
  > Rob
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: <dave.bigham@us.abb.com>
  > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:23 AM
  > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux
  >
  >
  > >
  > >
  > > This brings up a slightly off-topic question.  What discount =
on-line
  > brokers are
  > > "acceptable" or good?  Are there any hidden costs? I have heard =
things
  > like some
  > > may have higher bid-ask spreads and thereby make up for low =
commissions
  > that
  > > way.
  > >
  > > Any other thoughts are welcome.
  > >
  > > Dave Bigham
  > >
  > >
  > > |---------->
  > > |          |
  > > |          |
  > > |---------->
  > >
  > =
>------------------------------------------------------------------------=
|
  > >   |"Tim Fisher" <Tim@orerockon.com>
  > |
  > >   |03/07/2002 10:50 AM
  > |
  > >
  > =
>------------------------------------------------------------------------=
|
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Please respond to canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > >
  > > To:   canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > > cc:    (bcc: Dave Bigham/USINY/ABB)
  > > Subject:  [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux
  > >
  > > Security Level:?         Internal
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > I was never that happy with my Schwab 401k account, and now they =
have
  > added
  > > the straw that broke the camel's back. Seems they now charge a =
$3.00
  > > "handling fee" on both ends of their already expensive commissions
  > ($29.95;
  > > the former volume discount is gone). I am pulling it and giving it =
to
  > > Etrade today. The worst thing is, it's a new fee as of March 1 and =
they
  > > didn't even have the courtesy of notifying me. Just slapped it on. =
If I
  > had
  > > known I would have opened an Etrade account immediately, which I =
guess
  is
  > > why they didn't tell anyone.
  > >
  > >
  > > Tim Fisher
  > > Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site
  > > Owner, Fisher Fisheries, Ltd.
  > > mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com
  > > WWW http://OreRockOn.com
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
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<DIV>Hi Mike,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;&gt;This allows me to run scripts that access the streaming =
quote=20
information and create price and volume alerts.&lt;&lt;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Is this something that can be easily done with the software =
(for&nbsp;those=20
of us that're Web-tech-challenged)&nbsp;or do you need to be a =
scripting/webpage=20
design guru like yourself?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmikegibbons@proactech.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:mikegibbons@proactech.com">Mike Gibbons</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 07, 2002 =
12:47=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] Schwab =
Sux - RJT=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>I use RJT (<A =
href=3D"http://www.rjt.com">www.rjt.com</A>). $5=20
  for all trades for active traders including real<BR>time streaming =
quotes.=20
  Absolutely no frills web site but I front-end it with<BR>Medved =
Quotetracker=20
  (<A href=3D"http://www.quotetracker.com">www.quotetracker.com</A>) =
which is free=20
  and interfaces with<BR>RJT's streaming quotes and order entry=20
  system.<BR><BR>Best thing about Quotetracker from my perspective is =
that it=20
  includes a<BR>webserver. This allows me to run scripts that access the =

  streaming quote<BR>information and create price and volume=20
  alerts.<BR><BR>Aloha,<BR><BR>Mike Gibbons<BR>Proactive Technologies, =
LLC<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.proactech.com">http://www.proactech.com</A><BR><BR><BR=
>-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR>From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On=20
  Behalf Of david frank<BR>Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:19 AM<BR>To: =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>Subject:=20
  Re: [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux<BR><BR><BR>I use Schwab too-no real =
complaints.=20
  I&nbsp; been&nbsp; curious about Datek-do they<BR>really have fast =
executions?=20
  How about Cybertrader does anyone use them? How<BR>about the =
comparison=20
  between Datek and Cybertrader? David<BR>----- Original Message =
- -----<BR>From:=20
  "Rob Miller" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rmiller2@carolina.rr.com">rmiller2@carolina.rr.com</A>&gt;=
<BR>To:=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
  Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:57 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Schwab=20
  Sux<BR><BR><BR>&gt; I use Brown and Datek and love them both.&nbsp; =
I've been=20
  using Brown for<BR>years.<BR>&gt; Commissions are cheap ($5 market, =
$10 Limit)=20
  with no add on charges, fills<BR>&gt; are instant, website is =
extremely=20
  reliable and fast.&nbsp; I've never had to<BR>call<BR>&gt; and place a =
trade,=20
  but when I have called they pick up very fast.&nbsp; Short<BR>&gt; =
supply is=20
  excellent.&nbsp; I like for my broker to basically be invisible=20
  to<BR>me.<BR>&gt; In other words, I can do what I want when I want =
without any=20
  headaches.<BR>&gt; That's Brown.&nbsp; I'm new to Datek, which is =
where I have=20
  my IRA accounts.<BR>&gt; Very satisfied so far.&nbsp; Love the real =
time=20
  streaming quotes.&nbsp; I use Medved<BR>&gt; Quotetracker which I can =
link to=20
  Datek.&nbsp; You can even trade through<BR>Medved.<BR>&gt; I couldn't =
be=20
  happier with my choices.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I've never noticed any =
problems with=20
  bid/ask spreads.&nbsp; I'm usually<BR>watching<BR>&gt; real time =
quotes when I=20
  trade and I can see my trade instantly.&nbsp; It goes<BR>off<BR>&gt; =
at the=20
  ask, which is what I want.&nbsp; Limit orders also work =
great.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Rob<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:dave.bigham@us.abb.com">dave.bigham@us.abb.com</A>&gt;<BR>=
&gt;=20
  To: &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:23 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] =
Schwab=20
  Sux<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; This brings =
up a=20
  slightly off-topic question.&nbsp; What discount on-line<BR>&gt; =
brokers=20
  are<BR>&gt; &gt; "acceptable" or good?&nbsp; Are there any hidden =
costs? I=20
  have heard things<BR>&gt; like some<BR>&gt; &gt; may have higher =
bid-ask=20
  spreads and thereby make up for low commissions<BR>&gt; that<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  way.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Any other thoughts are welcome.<BR>&gt; =

  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Dave Bigham<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  |----------&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<BR>&gt; &gt; =

  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<BR>&gt; &gt; =

  |----------&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  =
&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------=
- ---|<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; |"Tim Fisher" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:Tim@orerockon.com">Tim@orerockon.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
|<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; |03/07/2002 10:50 AM<BR>&gt; |<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  =
&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------=
- ---|<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Please respond to <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (bcc: Dave Bigham/USINY/ABB)<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  Subject:&nbsp; [CANSLIM] Schwab Sux<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Security =

  Level:?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Internal<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I was never that happy =
with my=20
  Schwab 401k account, and now they have<BR>&gt; added<BR>&gt; &gt; the =
straw=20
  that broke the camel's back. Seems they now charge a $3.00<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  "handling fee" on both ends of their already expensive =
commissions<BR>&gt;=20
  ($29.95;<BR>&gt; &gt; the former volume discount is gone). I am =
pulling it and=20
  giving it to<BR>&gt; &gt; Etrade today. The worst thing is, it's a new =
fee as=20
  of March 1 and they<BR>&gt; &gt; didn't even have the courtesy of =
notifying=20
  me. Just slapped it on. If I<BR>&gt; had<BR>&gt; &gt; known I would =
have=20
  opened an Etrade account immediately, which I guess<BR>is<BR>&gt; &gt; =
why=20
  they didn't tell anyone.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Tim=20
  Fisher<BR>&gt; &gt; Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site<BR>&gt; &gt; =
Owner,=20
  Fisher Fisheries, Ltd.<BR>&gt; &gt; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com">mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt; WWW=20
  <A href=3D"http://OreRockOn.com">http://OreRockOn.com</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
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