Re: [CANSLIM] Re: SYPR and microcaps


From: "Robert Hodes" <rchodes@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: SYPR and microcaps
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:49:57 -0600

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Tom:  Thank you for your thoughtful response.

As a general comment, when I first started to invest, I could not make =
sense out of technical analysis and paid no attention to the tools =
developed by chartists. As I started to read IBD, I realized that chart =
patterns reflect that buying and selling behavior of groups of =
investors, and that one could make useful inferences about the =
motivations and future behaviors of investors from these patterns.  As a =
behavioral psychologist, that appeals to me. So I know look at chart =
patterns as behavioral data and not just numbers and it's starting to =
fall into place.  Your comments are very helpful.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tom Worley=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: SYPR and microcaps


  Robert,

  A lot depends on what they do with the money from the offering. Volume =
on Thu and Fri appears like the new shares have already changed hands. =
Between the time of the announcement and completion of the offering, the =
price held up well, but on very light volume. So there is some support =
in the $14-15 range.

  They already had a 44% earnings growth forecast. The new money may =
increase this. Keep in mind that future earnings reports will be on a =
"weighed average number of shares", so the effects of the add'l 3.6 =
million shares, plus the oversubscription shares if issued, will only =
take full affect over the next year. And there was only 1.6 million =
shares in the float before, with heavy management ownership.

  Tom Worley
  stkguru@bellsouth.net
  AIM: TexWorley
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Robert Hodes=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:47 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: SYPR and microcaps


  Tom or others: =20

  I've been looking at SYPR.  I noted that the company announced =
commencement of a public offering of 3.6M shares priced at $14.50 on =
Thurs.  The original SEC registration statement was announced on 2-8-02. =
 There are 9.90M shares outstanding so that seems like a significant =
dilution when figuring per share earnings and revenue.  What's your =
experience with stock prices after this type of public offering.  Does =
this provide support for the stock price at $14.5, do you see a lot of =
quick profit taking, does this prolong a base or cause a correction due =
to earnings dilution, are they are guidelines here.  This type of =
situation occurs over and over again with these microcaps and I'm not =
sure how to react.   Thanks.

  Bob Hodes
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Tom Worley=20
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:34 PM
    Subject: [CANSLIM] Worley's Weekend Weeview


    FOMC
    The Feds met on Tuesday, and as expected shifted the bias from =
recession fighting to neutral. Nonetheless, there was still the 10% that =
hadn't got the word, or refused to believe the signs, and sold as if =
this news was a surprise. I have already seen considerable talk of the =
Feds beginning to raise rates as early as the May meeting, but so far =
see little evidence to support this. While rate hikes may happen before =
the end of 2002, I see no reason to believe they will start until after =
the June meeting, at the earliest. Now, if they shifted all the way to =
inflation fighting, THAT would have been a surprise. We're still =
recovering from a recession, the Feds won't upset the apple cart, at =
least not yet.=20
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- ---

    HWP / CPQ
    Gee, this is almost like a Presidential election in Florida. HP =
claims victory, will own Compaq, with a 0.5% victory margin. Walter =
Hewlett, leading the HP family's opposition to the merger, says a =
recount will turn victory into defeat for HP's management. Love those =
hanging chaffs, let's turn a boring merger vote into front page news, =
and keep it there for a few days, or even a few weeks. Of course, no one =
has yet figured out whether this "merger of giants" will actually allow =
them to: a) compete against IBM; b) achieve any synergy of customer =
base; c) achieve any production efficiency or cost savings; d) build a =
better product that can compete better in either the printer or PC box =
market.

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
- ---

    TRADE DEFICIT
    Widened again, to $28.5 billion, up 15% from December. Year 2001 was =
the first annual decline in six years, but rising price of oil will =
likely weaken Q1 GDP.=20
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- ---

    ECONOMICS
    New housing starts jumped 2.8% in February, biggest gain in over =
three years and well above expectations. Single family home construction =
jumped 7.4%, biggest gain in over 23 years. Building permits also rose =
1.8% and over expectations.=20

    CPI - Index rose 0.2% overall as expected, but the core rose 0.3%, =
slightly over expectations.

    NEW UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS - Fell to 371K from a revised 383K, expected =
was 375K. This continues to support the view that the economy is =
stronger, and recovering faster, that the Feds perceive, and could lead =
to rate hikes sooner rather than later.

    LEADING INDICATORS - Unchanged, expected was a rise of 0.1

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    WORLEY'S WATCHLIST WANNABES
    Population of stocks under review this weekend somewhat reduced. As =
always, a "Bx" means a flat line "B"ase of "x" weeks duration, IMO. I =
will mention other specific formations, such as c&h, double bottom and =
LLUR.

    AAON - stealth (low vol) b/o from B3
    ACDO - 7 week consolidation base, huge earnings growth and 5 year =
rate
    ACS - decent c&h for a former LLUR
    AVD - LLUR, may be breaking its pattern upward
    DCOM - LLUR
    DLX - LLUR
    FRED - volatile LLUR
    FRS - B4
    NWRE - B2, low priced micro cap
    ODP - B5+
    PENN - B4
    PETM - LLUR
    PSTI - B3, in my VR Fund
    SYPR - 10 week consolidation, in my VR Fund
    TASR - volatile 10 week consolidation base, in my VR Fund

    Happy Hunting,



    Tom Worley
    stkguru@bellsouth.net
    AIM: TexWorley

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom:&nbsp; Thank you for your =
thoughtful=20
response.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a general comment, when I first =
started to=20
invest, I could not make sense out of technical analysis and paid no =
attention=20
to the tools developed by chartists. As I started to read IBD, I =
realized that=20
chart patterns reflect that buying and selling&nbsp;behavior of groups =
of=20
investors, and that one could make useful inferences about the =
motivations and=20
future behaviors of investors from these patterns.&nbsp; As a behavioral =

psychologist, that appeals to me. So I know look at chart patterns as =
behavioral=20
data and not just numbers and it's starting to fall into place.&nbsp; =
Your=20
comments are very helpful.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">Tom=20
  Worley</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 25, 2002 =
4:21=20
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Re: SYPR =
and=20
  microcaps</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Robert,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>A lot depends on what they do with the money =
from the=20
  offering. Volume on Thu and Fri appears like the new shares have =
already=20
  changed hands. Between the time of the announcement and completion of =
the=20
  offering, the price held up well, but on very light volume. So there =
is some=20
  support in the $14-15 range.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>They already had a 44% earnings growth =
forecast. The new=20
  money may increase this. Keep in mind that future earnings reports =
will be on=20
  a "weighed average number of shares", so the effects of the add'l 3.6 =
million=20
  shares, plus the oversubscription shares if issued, will only take =
full affect=20
  over the next year. And there was only 1.6 million shares in the float =
before,=20
  with heavy management ownership.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
  TexWorley</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Drchodes@charter.net href=3D"mailto:rchodes@charter.net">Robert =
Hodes</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:47 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Re: SYPR and microcaps</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom or others:&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been looking at SYPR.&nbsp; I =
noted that the=20
  company announced commencement of a public&nbsp;offering of 3.6M =
shares priced=20
  at $14.50 on Thurs.&nbsp; The original SEC registration statement was=20
  announced on 2-8-02.&nbsp; There are 9.90M shares outstanding so that =
seems=20
  like a significant dilution when figuring per share earnings and=20
  revenue.&nbsp; What's your experience with stock prices after this =
type of=20
  public offering.&nbsp;&nbsp;Does this&nbsp;provide support for the =
stock price=20
  at $14.5, do you see&nbsp;a lot of&nbsp;quick profit taking, does this =
prolong=20
  a base or cause a correction&nbsp;due to earnings&nbsp;dilution, are =
they=20
  are&nbsp;guidelines here.&nbsp; This type of situation occurs over and =
over=20
  again with these microcaps and I'm not sure how to react.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob Hodes</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">Tom=20
    Worley</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 23, =
2002 4:34=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Worley's =
Weekend=20
    Weeview</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>FOMC</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The Feds met on Tuesday, and as expected =
shifted the=20
    bias from recession fighting to neutral. Nonetheless, there was =
still the=20
    10% that hadn't got the word, or refused to believe the signs, and =
sold as=20
    if this news was a surprise. I have already seen considerable talk =
of the=20
    Feds beginning to raise rates as early as the May meeting, but so =
far see=20
    little evidence to support this. While rate hikes may happen before =
the end=20
    of 2002, I see no reason to believe they will start until after the =
June=20
    meeting, at the earliest. Now, if they&nbsp;shifted all the way to =
inflation=20
    fighting, THAT would have been a surprise. We're still recovering =
from a=20
    recession, the Feds won't upset the apple cart, at least not =
yet.</FONT>=20
    <HR>
    </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>HWP / CPQ</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Gee, this is almost like a Presidential =
election in=20
    Florida. HP claims victory, will own Compaq, with a 0.5% victory =
margin.=20
    Walter Hewlett, leading the HP family's opposition to the merger, =
says a=20
    recount will turn victory into defeat for HP's management. Love =
those=20
    hanging chaffs, let's turn a boring merger vote into front page =
news, and=20
    keep it there for a few days, or even a few weeks. Of course, no one =
has yet=20
    figured out whether this "merger of giants" will actually allow them =
to: a)=20
    compete against IBM; b) achieve any synergy of customer base; c) =
achieve any=20
    production efficiency or cost savings; d) build a better product =
that can=20
    compete better in either the printer or PC box market.</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <HR>
    </DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG>TRADE DEFICIT</STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV>Widened again, to $28.5 billion, up 15% from December. Year =
2001 was=20
    the first annual decline in six years, but rising price of oil will =
likely=20
    weaken Q1 GDP.=20
    <HR>
    </DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>ECONOMICS</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>New housing starts jumped 2.8% in February, =
biggest=20
    gain in over three years and well above expectations. Single family =
home=20
    construction jumped 7.4%, biggest gain in over 23 years. Building =
permits=20
    also rose 1.8% and over expectations. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>CPI </STRONG>- </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial>Index=20
    rose 0.2% overall as expected, but the core rose 0.3%, slightly over =

    expectations.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>NEW UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS -=20
    </STRONG></FONT><FONT face=3DArial>Fell to 371K from a revised 383K, =
expected=20
    was 375K. This continues to support the view that the economy is =
stronger,=20
    and recovering faster, that the Feds perceive, and could lead to =
rate hikes=20
    sooner rather than later.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>LEADING INDICATORS - =
</STRONG></FONT><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>Unchanged, expected was a rise of 0.1</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <HR>
    </DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>WORLEY'S WATCHLIST=20
    WANNABES</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Population of stocks under review this =
weekend=20
    somewhat reduced. As always, a "Bx" means a flat line "B"ase of "x" =
weeks=20
    duration, IMO. I will mention other specific formations, such as =
c&amp;h,=20
    double bottom and LLUR.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>AAON - stealth (low vol) b/o from =
B3</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>ACDO - 7 week consolidation base, huge =
earnings growth=20
    and 5 year rate</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>ACS - decent c&amp;h for a former =
LLUR</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>AVD - LLUR, may be breaking its pattern=20
    upward</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>DCOM - LLUR</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>DLX - LLUR</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>FRED - volatile LLUR</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>FRS - B4</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>NWRE - B2, low priced micro cap</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>ODP - B5+</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>PENN - B4</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>PETM - LLUR</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>PSTI - B3, in my VR Fund</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>SYPR - 10 week consolidation, in my VR=20
    Fund</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>TASR - volatile 10 week consolidation base, =
in my VR=20
    Fund</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Happy Hunting,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Tom Worley<BR></FONT><A=20
    href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net"><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>stkguru@bellsouth.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
face=3DArial>AIM:=20
    TexWorley</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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