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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C1E474.970FD120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren, I try to restrict discussions VV to their user groups and/or = offline and not on the CANSLIM group. VectorVest is a tool along with = their own proprietary data and the application of the tool takes months = and months to learn.... maybe even years to fully explore its = capabilities. If you want specific information, go to the VV user = groups and ask your questions there... start your own thread. If you really want personal insight, go http://www.vectorvest.com. Sign = up for the 5-week trial... you'll get the software and 5 weeks of daily = data downloads, plus a video (how to use) along with 2 books (Stocks, = Strategies and Common Sense) and the (Users Guide)... the trial is = really cheap $9.95 full version, no gimmicks, for 5 weeks.=20 I've been a subscriber since late 1999 and continue to learn how to = extract/use the power of the software. I also know (personally) about 25 = users that have had the VV software for at least 3 years.... we all use = it a little differently.... don't believe we're dummies....=20 Point of clarification: Although I helped produce (generate from = sketches provided) the graphics for the main body of the presentation = and helped with the distribution, the actual presentation and the work = itself was Katherine's not mine.... =20 Gene - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Warren Keuffel=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V. message Gene, I've been subscribed to both lists for a week or so but find the = discussions focused on arcane details of the software. Most of my=20 understanding of VV has come from Katherine's notes (which you=20 organized.) How much value do you get from the VV mailing lists? Warren Gene Ricci wrote: > John, suggest you check out these VectorVest user groups for=20 > discussion of the software.=20 > > =20 > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/ (VV = moderated) > > =20 > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vvestusergroup/ (more advanced=20 > non=3Dmoderated) > > =20 > > I recommend spending the next couple of weeks watching their video = and=20 > understanding how to use the software, what its capable of sorting,=20 > etc. before trying to apply specifics. > > BTW, you can subscribe on a monthly basis if you need more time. > > =20 > > DailyGraphs Online.... if you want accurate data... is there a=20 > substitute? I don't think much of their tools to massage their data=20 > though... > > =20 > > Gene > > =20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From:John Lessnau <mailto:jl@lessnau.com> > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com = <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:15 PM > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V. message > > > Gene, > > =20 > > As a VV user, do you normally use the canned "strategies" or = have > you tweaked them a bit to spot some CANSLIM candidates. It's my > first day using the program and its a little overwhelming trying > to learn everything at once. Before my 5 weeks are up, I want = to > make sure this this program has serious value before I jump in = at > $545/yr.=20 > > =20 > > I also may try a week trial of Daily Graphs Online to compare.=20 > Have you had any experience with that package? If not, their = must > be a few CANSLIMers in the group that use it. Opinions anyone? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From:Ira Post <mailto:ip108@yahoo.com> > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector Vest > > > Thanks Gene. I'll take a look. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From:Gene Ricci <mailto:genr@swbell.net> > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector Vest > > > IRA, if you are looking for information on how to use = the > software and its good and bad points, there are at least = 2 > VectorVest Yahoo Groups available to discuss the = software: > > =20 > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vvestusergroup/ (~500 > members, unofficial board) > > =20 > > = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/?yguid=3D4038710= 2 > (~1300 members, monitored and controlled by VectorVest) > > =20 > > I use the software and I'm a member of both user groups. > > Gene > > =20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From:Ira Post <mailto:ip108@yahoo.com> > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector Vest > > > Sounds very interesting. I'm not a big fan of stock > software, but I'd love > to hear more about this package and how to use it. > Ira > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Keuffel" < wkeuffel@xmission.com > <mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com> > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com > <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector Vest > > > > Katherine Malm is the resident VV guru. She's got = a > whole package of > > info to show you how she adapted VV to CANSLIM. = She > will undoubtedly see > > your message and reply directly. > > > > I recently completed my trial period and decided = to > sign up, in no small > > part because Katherine's material acted as a > tutorial that helped me > > "grok" VV. The docs supplied are pretty lousy = (this > seems to be the case > > with most of these tools -- I think that selling > seminars to help you > > understand how to use the tool is a major profit > center!) > > > > While it is somewhat true as David says that there > are some similarities > > between IBD and VV to me the true power comes in > being able to > > manipulate that data and do what-if scenarios, > screens, etc. Also it's > > far superior in helping to identify which industry > groups are heating up > > (and then finding the best stocks in those = groups), > which is IMO > > crucially important in the kind of sector rotation > market we are > > experiencing now. > > > > Warren > > > > Neal Frankle wrote: > > > > >Anyone using this service? If so, how? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Neal > > > > > >- > > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email " > majordomo@xmission.com = <mailto:majordomo@xmission.com> " > > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in = your > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email " > majordomo@xmission.com = <mailto:majordomo@xmission.com> " > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your > email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email " > majordomo@xmission.com = <mailto:majordomo@xmission.com> " > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your = email. > - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C1E474.970FD120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4915.500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Warren, I try to = restrict discussions VV to=20 their user groups and/or offline and not on the CANSLIM group. = VectorVest=20 is a tool along with their own proprietary data and the application of = the tool=20 takes months and months to learn.... maybe even years to fully explore = its=20 capabilities. If you want specific information, go to the VV user = groups=20 and ask your questions there... start your own thread.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">If you really want = personal insight, go <A=20 href=3D"http://www.vectorvest.com">http://www.vectorvest.com</A>. =20 S</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">ign up for the 5-week trial... = you'll get the=20 software and 5 weeks of daily data downloads, plus a video (how to use) = along=20 with 2 books (Stocks, Strategies and Common Sense) and the (Users = Guide)... the=20 trial is really cheap $9.95 full version, no gimmicks, for 5=20 weeks. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I've been a subscriber since late 1999 = and=20 continue to learn how to extract/use the power of the software. I also = know=20 (personally) about 25 users that have had the VV software for at least 3 = years.... we all use it a little differently.... don't believe we're = dummies....=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><STRONG>Point of = clarification</STRONG>:=20 Although I helped produce (generate from sketches provided) the graphics = for=20 the main body of the presentation and helped with the distribution, = the=20 actual presentation and <STRONG>the work itself was Katherine's</STRONG> = not=20 mine.... </FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dwkeuffel@xmission.com = href=3D"mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com">Warren=20 Keuffel</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 15, 2002 = 11:06=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] = Non-touting V.V.=20 message</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Gene, I've been subscribed to both lists for a week or = so but=20 find the <BR>discussions focused on arcane details of the software. = Most of my=20 <BR>understanding of VV has come from Katherine's notes (which you=20 <BR>organized.) How much value do you get from the VV mailing=20 lists?<BR><BR>Warren<BR><BR>Gene Ricci wrote:<BR><BR>> John, = suggest you=20 check out these VectorVest user groups for <BR>> discussion of the=20 software. <BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> <A=20 = href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/">http:/= /groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/</A> =20 (VV moderated)<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> <A=20 = href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vvestusergroup/">http://groups.yaho= o.com/group/vvestusergroup/</A> =20 (more advanced <BR>> non=3Dmoderated)<BR>><BR>> = <BR>><BR>>=20 I recommend spending the next couple of weeks watching their video and = <BR>> understanding how to use the software, what its capable of = sorting,=20 <BR>> etc. before trying to apply specifics.<BR>><BR>> BTW, = you can=20 subscribe on a monthly basis if you need more = time.<BR>><BR>> =20 <BR>><BR>> DailyGraphs Online.... if you want accurate data... = is there=20 a <BR>> substitute? I don't think much of their tools to massage = their data=20 <BR>> though...<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>>=20 Gene<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> = - -----=20 Original Message -----<BR>><BR>> = From:John=20 Lessnau <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:jl@lessnau.com">mailto:jl@lessnau.com</A>><BR>><BR>&= gt; =20 To: <A = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= =20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.= com</A>><BR>><BR>> =20 Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:15 = PM<BR>><BR>> =20 Subject: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V.=20 message<BR>><BR>><BR>> =20 Gene,<BR>><BR>> =20 <BR>><BR>> As a VV user, do you normally = use the=20 canned "strategies" or have<BR>> you = tweaked them a=20 bit to spot some CANSLIM candidates. It's=20 my<BR>> first day using the program and its = a=20 little overwhelming trying<BR>> to learn = everything=20 at once. Before my 5 weeks are up, I want=20 to<BR>> make sure this this program has = serious=20 value before I jump in at<BR>> $545/yr.=20 <BR>><BR>> =20 <BR>><BR>> I also may try a week trial = of Daily=20 Graphs Online to compare. <BR>> Have you = had any=20 experience with that package? If not, their=20 must<BR>> be a few CANSLIMers in the group = that use=20 it. Opinions=20 = anyone?<BR>><BR>> = - -----=20 Original Message=20 -----<BR>><BR>> = From:Ira=20 Post <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:ip108@yahoo.com">mailto:ip108@yahoo.com</A>><BR>><BR= >> =20 To: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= <BR>> =20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.= com</A>><BR>><BR>> &nbs= p;=20 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:54=20 PM<BR>><BR>> = Subject:=20 Re: [CANSLIM] Vector=20 = Vest<BR>><BR>><BR>> &nb= sp;=20 Thanks Gene. I'll take a=20 = look.<BR>><BR>> &nbs= p; =20 ----- Original Message=20 = - -----<BR>><BR>> &nbs= p; =20 From:Gene Ricci <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">mailto:genr@swbell.net</A>><BR>><BR= >> &n= bsp;=20 To: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= <BR>>  = ; =20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.= com</A>><BR>><BR>> &nbs= p; =20 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:36=20 = PM<BR>><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector=20 = Vest<BR>><BR>><BR>> &nb= sp; =20 IRA, if you are looking for information on how to use=20 = the<BR>> &n= bsp; =20 software and its good and bad points, there are at least=20 = 2<BR>> &nbs= p; =20 VectorVest Yahoo Groups available to discuss the=20 = software:<BR>><BR>> = =20 = <BR>><BR>> &nb= sp; =20 <A=20 = href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vvestusergroup/">http://groups.yaho= o.com/group/vvestusergroup/</A> =20 = (~500<BR>> = =20 members, unofficial=20 = board)<BR>><BR>> &nb= sp; =20 = <BR>><BR>> &nb= sp; =20 <A=20 = href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/?yguid=3D= 40387102">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/?yguid= =3D40387102</A><BR>> &n= bsp; =20 (~1300 members, monitored and controlled by=20 = VectorVest)<BR>><BR>> &nbs= p; =20 = <BR>><BR>> &nb= sp; =20 I use the software and I'm a member of both user=20 = groups.<BR>><BR>> &n= bsp; =20 = Gene<BR>><BR>>  = ; =20 = <BR>><BR>> &nb= sp; =20 ----- Original Message=20 = - -----<BR>><BR>> &nbs= p; =20 From:Ira Post <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:ip108@yahoo.com">mailto:ip108@yahoo.com</A>><BR>><BR= >> &n= bsp; =20 To: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= <BR>>  = ; =20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.= com</A>><BR>><BR>> &nbs= p; =20 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:26=20 = PM<BR>><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector=20 = Vest<BR>><BR>><BR>> &nb= sp; =20 Sounds very interesting. I'm not a big fan of=20 = stock<BR>> = =20 software, but I'd=20 = love<BR>> &= nbsp; =20 to hear more about this package and how to use=20 = it.<BR>> &n= bsp; =20 = Ira<BR>><BR>> = =20 ----- Original Message=20 = - -----<BR>> = =20 From: "Warren Keuffel" < <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com">wkeuffel@xmission.com</A><BR>>&n= bsp; &nb= sp; =20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com">mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com</A>>= ;=20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 To: <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= <BR>>  = ; =20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.= com</A>>=20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:48=20 = AM<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector=20 = Vest<BR>><BR>><BR>> &nb= sp; =20 > Katherine Malm is the resident VV guru. She's got=20 = a<BR>> &nbs= p; =20 whole package=20 = of<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 > info to show you how she adapted VV to CANSLIM.=20 = She<BR>> &n= bsp; =20 will undoubtedly=20 = see<BR>> &n= bsp; =20 > your message and reply=20 = directly.<BR>> &n= bsp; =20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 > I recently completed my trial period and decided=20 = to<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 sign up, in no=20 = small<BR>> = =20 > part because Katherine's material acted as=20 = a<BR>> &nbs= p; =20 tutorial that helped=20 = me<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 > "grok" VV. The docs supplied are pretty lousy=20 = (this<BR>> = =20 seems to be the=20 = case<BR>> &= nbsp; =20 > with most of these tools -- I think that=20 = selling<BR>> &nbs= p; =20 seminars to help=20 = you<BR>> &n= bsp; =20 > understand how to use the tool is a major=20 = profit<BR>>  = ; =20 = center!)<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 > While it is somewhat true as David says that=20 = there<BR>> = =20 are some=20 = similarities<BR>>  = ; =20 > between IBD and VV to me the true power comes=20 = in<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 being able=20 = to<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 > manipulate that data and do what-if=20 = scenarios,<BR>> &= nbsp; =20 screens, etc. Also=20 = it's<BR>> &= nbsp; =20 > far superior in helping to identify which=20 = industry<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 groups are heating=20 = up<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 > (and then finding the best stocks in those=20 = groups),<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 which is=20 = IMO<BR>> &n= bsp; =20 > crucially important in the kind of sector=20 = rotation<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 market we=20 = are<BR>> &n= bsp; =20 > experiencing=20 = now.<BR>> &= nbsp; =20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 >=20 = Warren<BR>>  = ; =20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 > Neal Frankle=20 = wrote:<BR>>  = ; =20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 > >Anyone using this service? If so,=20 = how?<BR>> &= nbsp; =20 >=20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 >=20 = >Thanks,<BR>> = =20 >=20 = >Neal<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 >=20 = ><BR>> &= nbsp; =20 >=20 = >-<BR>> = =20 > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email=20 = "<BR>> &nbs= p; =20 <A href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A> = <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">mailto:majordomo@xmission.com</A>&= gt;=20 = "<BR>> &nbs= p; =20 > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim"=20 = or<BR>> &nb= sp; =20 > >-"unsubscribe canslim". 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