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non-touting? You have got to be kidding-unsubscribe plse.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V. message
Warren, I try to restrict discussions VV to their user groups and/or =
offline and not on the CANSLIM group. VectorVest is a tool along with =
their own proprietary data and the application of the tool takes months =
and months to learn.... maybe even years to fully explore its =
capabilities. If you want specific information, go to the VV user =
groups and ask your questions there... start your own thread.
If you really want personal insight, go http://www.vectorvest.com. =
Sign up for the 5-week trial... you'll get the software and 5 weeks of =
daily data downloads, plus a video (how to use) along with 2 books =
(Stocks, Strategies and Common Sense) and the (Users Guide)... the trial =
is really cheap $9.95 full version, no gimmicks, for 5 weeks.=20
I've been a subscriber since late 1999 and continue to learn how to =
extract/use the power of the software. I also know (personally) about 25 =
users that have had the VV software for at least 3 years.... we all use =
it a little differently.... don't believe we're dummies....=20
Point of clarification: Although I helped produce (generate from =
sketches provided) the graphics for the main body of the presentation =
and helped with the distribution, the actual presentation and the work =
itself was Katherine's not mine.... =20
Gene
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Warren Keuffel=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V. message
Gene, I've been subscribed to both lists for a week or so but find =
the=20
discussions focused on arcane details of the software. Most of my=20
understanding of VV has come from Katherine's notes (which you=20
organized.) How much value do you get from the VV mailing lists?
Warren
Gene Ricci wrote:
> John, suggest you check out these VectorVest user groups for=20
> discussion of the software.=20
>
> =20
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/ (VV =
moderated)
>
> =20
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vvestusergroup/ (more advanced=20
> non=3Dmoderated)
>
> =20
>
> I recommend spending the next couple of weeks watching their video =
and=20
> understanding how to use the software, what its capable of =
sorting,=20
> etc. before trying to apply specifics.
>
> BTW, you can subscribe on a monthly basis if you need more time.
>
> =20
>
> DailyGraphs Online.... if you want accurate data... is there a=20
> substitute? I don't think much of their tools to massage their =
data=20
> though...
>
> =20
>
> Gene
>
> =20
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:John Lessnau <mailto:jl@lessnau.com>
>
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com =
<mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:15 PM
>
> Subject: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V. message
>
>
> Gene,
>
> =20
>
> As a VV user, do you normally use the canned "strategies" or =
have
> you tweaked them a bit to spot some CANSLIM candidates. It's =
my
> first day using the program and its a little overwhelming =
trying
> to learn everything at once. Before my 5 weeks are up, I want =
to
> make sure this this program has serious value before I jump in =
at
> $545/yr.=20
>
> =20
>
> I also may try a week trial of Daily Graphs Online to compare. =
> Have you had any experience with that package? If not, their =
must
> be a few CANSLIMers in the group that use it. Opinions =
anyone?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:Ira Post <mailto:ip108@yahoo.com>
>
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:54 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector Vest
>
>
> Thanks Gene. I'll take a look.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:Gene Ricci <mailto:genr@swbell.net>
>
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:36 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector Vest
>
>
> IRA, if you are looking for information on how to use =
the
> software and its good and bad points, there are at =
least 2
> VectorVest Yahoo Groups available to discuss the =
software:
>
> =20
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vvestusergroup/ (~500
> members, unofficial board)
>
> =20
>
> =
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/?yguid=3D4038710=
2
> (~1300 members, monitored and controlled by =
VectorVest)
>
> =20
>
> I use the software and I'm a member of both user =
groups.
>
> Gene
>
> =20
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:Ira Post <mailto:ip108@yahoo.com>
>
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:26 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector Vest
>
>
> Sounds very interesting. I'm not a big fan of =
stock
> software, but I'd love
> to hear more about this package and how to use it.
> Ira
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Keuffel" < wkeuffel@xmission.com
> <mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com> >
> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com
> <mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com> >
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector Vest
>
>
> > Katherine Malm is the resident VV guru. She's =
got a
> whole package of
> > info to show you how she adapted VV to CANSLIM. =
She
> will undoubtedly see
> > your message and reply directly.
> >
> > I recently completed my trial period and decided =
to
> sign up, in no small
> > part because Katherine's material acted as a
> tutorial that helped me
> > "grok" VV. The docs supplied are pretty lousy =
(this
> seems to be the case
> > with most of these tools -- I think that selling
> seminars to help you
> > understand how to use the tool is a major profit
> center!)
> >
> > While it is somewhat true as David says that =
there
> are some similarities
> > between IBD and VV to me the true power comes in
> being able to
> > manipulate that data and do what-if scenarios,
> screens, etc. Also it's
> > far superior in helping to identify which =
industry
> groups are heating up
> > (and then finding the best stocks in those =
groups),
> which is IMO
> > crucially important in the kind of sector =
rotation
> market we are
> > experiencing now.
> >
> > Warren
> >
> > Neal Frankle wrote:
> >
> > >Anyone using this service? If so, how?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Neal
> > >
> > >-
> > >-To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "
> majordomo@xmission.com =
<mailto:majordomo@xmission.com> "
> > >-In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" =
or
> > >-"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in =
your
> email.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "
> majordomo@xmission.com =
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> > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
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your
> email.
>
>
> -
> -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "
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<mailto:majordomo@xmission.com> "
> -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
> -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your =
email.
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>non-touting? You have got to be=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene =
Ricci</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 15, 2002 =
12:56=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Non-touting V.V.=20
message</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Warren, I try to =
restrict discussions VV=20
to their user groups and/or offline and not on the CANSLIM group. =
VectorVest is a tool along with their own proprietary data and the =
application=20
of the tool takes months and months to learn.... maybe even years to =
fully=20
explore its capabilities. If you want specific information, go =
to the VV=20
user groups and ask your questions there... start your own=20
thread.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">If you really want =
personal insight, go=20
<A =
href=3D"http://www.vectorvest.com">http://www.vectorvest.com</A>. =20
S</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">ign up for the 5-week trial... =
you'll get=20
the software and 5 weeks of daily data downloads, plus a video (how to =
use)=20
along with 2 books (Stocks, Strategies and Common Sense) and the =
(Users=20
Guide)... the trial is really cheap $9.95 full version, no gimmicks, =
for 5=20
weeks. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I've been a subscriber since late =
1999 and=20
continue to learn how to extract/use the power of the software. I also =
know=20
(personally) about 25 users that have had the VV software for at least =
3=20
years.... we all use it a little differently.... don't believe we're=20
dummies.... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><STRONG>Point of =
clarification</STRONG>:=20
Although I helped produce (generate from sketches provided) the =
graphics for=20
the main body of the presentation and helped with the =
distribution, the=20
actual presentation and <STRONG>the work itself was =
Katherine's</STRONG> not=20
mine.... </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dwkeuffel@xmission.com =
href=3D"mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com">Warren=20
Keuffel</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 15, 2002 =
11:06=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Non-touting V.V.=20
message</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Gene, I've been subscribed to both lists for a week =
or so but=20
find the <BR>discussions focused on arcane details of the software. =
Most of=20
my <BR>understanding of VV has come from Katherine's notes (which =
you=20
<BR>organized.) How much value do you get from the VV mailing=20
lists?<BR><BR>Warren<BR><BR>Gene Ricci wrote:<BR><BR>> John, =
suggest you=20
check out these VectorVest user groups for <BR>> discussion of =
the=20
software. <BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/">http:/=
/groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/</A> =20
(VV moderated)<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vvestusergroup/">http://groups.yaho=
o.com/group/vvestusergroup/</A> =20
(more advanced <BR>> non=3Dmoderated)<BR>><BR>> =20
<BR>><BR>> I recommend spending the next couple of weeks =
watching=20
their video and <BR>> understanding how to use the software, what =
its=20
capable of sorting, <BR>> etc. before trying to apply=20
specifics.<BR>><BR>> BTW, you can subscribe on a monthly basis =
if you=20
need more time.<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> DailyGraphs=20
Online.... if you want accurate data... is there a <BR>> =
substitute? I=20
don't think much of their tools to massage their data <BR>>=20
though...<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> =
Gene<BR>><BR>> =20
<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message=20
-----<BR>><BR>> From:John Lessnau =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:jl@lessnau.com">mailto:jl@lessnau.com</A>><BR>><BR>&=
gt; =20
To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.=
com</A>><BR>><BR>> =20
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:15 =
PM<BR>><BR>> =20
Subject: [CANSLIM] Non-touting V.V.=20
message<BR>><BR>><BR>> =20
Gene,<BR>><BR>> =20
<BR>><BR>> As a VV user, do you =
normally use=20
the canned "strategies" or have<BR>> you =
tweaked=20
them a bit to spot some CANSLIM candidates. It's=20
my<BR>> first day using the program and =
its a=20
little overwhelming trying<BR>> to learn=20
everything at once. Before my 5 weeks are up, I want=20
to<BR>> make sure this this program has =
serious=20
value before I jump in at<BR>> $545/yr.=20
<BR>><BR>> =20
<BR>><BR>> I also may try a week trial =
of=20
Daily Graphs Online to compare. <BR>> =
Have you=20
had any experience with that package? If not, their=20
must<BR>> be a few CANSLIMers in the =
group that=20
use it. Opinions=20
=
anyone?<BR>><BR>> =20
----- Original Message=20
=
- -----<BR>><BR>> =20
From:Ira Post <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:ip108@yahoo.com">mailto:ip108@yahoo.com</A>><BR>><BR=
>> =20
To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.=
com</A>><BR>><BR>> &nbs=
p;=20
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:54=20
PM<BR>><BR>> =
Subject:=20
Re: [CANSLIM] Vector=20
=
Vest<BR>><BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp;=20
Thanks Gene. I'll take a=20
=
look.<BR>><BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
----- Original Message=20
=
- -----<BR>><BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
From:Gene Ricci <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">mailto:genr@swbell.net</A>><BR>><BR=
>> &n=
bsp;=20
To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>>  =
; =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.=
com</A>><BR>><BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:36=20
=
PM<BR>><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector=20
=
Vest<BR>><BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
IRA, if you are looking for information on how to use=20
=
the<BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
software and its good and bad points, there are at least=20
=
2<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
VectorVest Yahoo Groups available to discuss the=20
=
software:<BR>><BR>> =
=20
=
<BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vvestusergroup/">http://groups.yaho=
o.com/group/vvestusergroup/</A> =20
=
(~500<BR>> =
=20
members, unofficial=20
=
board)<BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
=
<BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/?yguid=3D=
40387102">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vectorvestonlineusersgroup/?yguid=
=3D40387102</A><BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
(~1300 members, monitored and controlled by=20
=
VectorVest)<BR>><BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
=
<BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
I use the software and I'm a member of both user=20
=
groups.<BR>><BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
=
Gene<BR>><BR>>  =
; =20
=
<BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
----- Original Message=20
=
- -----<BR>><BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
From:Ira Post <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:ip108@yahoo.com">mailto:ip108@yahoo.com</A>><BR>><BR=
>> &n=
bsp; =20
To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>>  =
; =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.=
com</A>><BR>><BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:26=20
=
PM<BR>><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector=20
=
Vest<BR>><BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
Sounds very interesting. I'm not a big fan of=20
=
stock<BR>> =
=20
software, but I'd=20
=
love<BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
to hear more about this package and how to use=20
=
it.<BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
=
Ira<BR>><BR>> =
=20
----- Original Message=20
=
- -----<BR>> =
=20
From: "Warren Keuffel" < <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com">wkeuffel@xmission.com</A><BR>>&n=
bsp; &nb=
sp; =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com">mailto:wkeuffel@xmission.com</A>>=
;=20
=
><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
To: <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>>  =
; =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.=
com</A>>=20
=
><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:48=20
=
AM<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Vector=20
=
Vest<BR>><BR>><BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
> Katherine Malm is the resident VV guru. She's got=20
=
a<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
whole package=20
=
of<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
> info to show you how she adapted VV to CANSLIM.=20
=
She<BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
will undoubtedly=20
=
see<BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
> your message and reply=20
=
directly.<BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
=
><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> I recently completed my trial period and decided=20
=
to<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
sign up, in no=20
=
small<BR>> =
=20
> part because Katherine's material acted as=20
=
a<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
tutorial that helped=20
=
me<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
> "grok" VV. The docs supplied are pretty lousy=20
=
(this<BR>> =
=20
seems to be the=20
=
case<BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> with most of these tools -- I think that=20
=
selling<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
seminars to help=20
=
you<BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
> understand how to use the tool is a major=20
=
profit<BR>>  =
; =20
=
center!)<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
=
><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> While it is somewhat true as David says that=20
=
there<BR>> =
=20
are some=20
=
similarities<BR>>  =
; =20
> between IBD and VV to me the true power comes=20
=
in<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
being able=20
=
to<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
> manipulate that data and do what-if=20
=
scenarios,<BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
screens, etc. Also=20
=
it's<BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> far superior in helping to identify which=20
=
industry<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
groups are heating=20
=
up<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
> (and then finding the best stocks in those=20
=
groups),<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
which is=20
=
IMO<BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
> crucially important in the kind of sector=20
=
rotation<BR>> &nb=
sp; =20
market we=20
=
are<BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
> experiencing=20
=
now.<BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
=
><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
>=20
=
Warren<BR>>  =
; =20
=
><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> Neal Frankle=20
=
wrote:<BR>>  =
; =20
=
><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> >Anyone using this service? If so,=20
=
how?<BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
>=20
=
><BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
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