Re: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit losses


From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit losses
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:09:01 -0400

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Hi Mona,

You are undoubtedly correct that this is an infringement on a copyright, =
even if no harm is intended or damage done (no one is likely to drop =
their WSJ subscription, or not start a new one, by the occasional =
article posted). On the other hand, it seems that IBD, and I suspect WSJ =
as well, have staffers in our group that have harvested ideas from our =
discussions without any attribution, permission or thanks.

So turn about seems fair to me, even if not legal.

Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mona Guarino=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit losses


To the list:=20

I don't know if it the good little Catholic girl, the law student, the =
paying subscriber to WSJ, or the web developer in me, but I caution =
about forwarding entire articles such as this from any source other we =
have developed ourselves.

A portion of the WSJ subscriber agreement follows, but I read it to say =
you can email a friend or two, but I doubt they mean a list such as =
this. Even if you leave the copyrights in place, especially since the =
list contents remails accesible via the web, I think this is a form of =
unauthorized republishing. It's easy these days (and getting easier =
every day) to forward, scan, etc., but copyright is still alive and well =
and we need to respect it.

Perhaps the subject has come up in the past and Jeff or Tom or one of =
the other longer-term list members may be able to address this better . =
. .

- -- Mona


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Mona,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>You are undoubtedly correct that this is an =
infringement=20
on a copyright, even if no harm is intended or damage done (no one is =
likely to=20
drop their WSJ subscription, or not start a new one, by the occasional =
article=20
posted). On the other hand, it seems that IBD, and I suspect WSJ as =
well, have=20
staffers in our group that have harvested ideas from our discussions =
without any=20
attribution, permission or thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>So turn about seems fair to me, even if not=20
legal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
TexWorley</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dwebmaster@design21.com =
href=3D"mailto:webmaster@design21.com">Mona=20
Guarino</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 15, 2002 9:12 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] FNM earnings, credit =
losses</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>To the=20
list: </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
don't know if it the good little Catholic girl, the law student, the =
paying=20
subscriber to WSJ, or the web developer in me, but I caution about =
forwarding=20
entire articles such as this from any source other we have developed=20
ourselves.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>A=20
portion of the WSJ subscriber agreement follows, but I read it to say =
you can=20
email a friend or two, but I doubt they mean a&nbsp;list such as this. =
Even if=20
you leave the copyrights in place, especially since the list contents =
remails=20
accesible via the web, I think this is a form of unauthorized =
republishing. It's=20
easy these days (and getting easier every day) to forward, scan, etc., =
but=20
copyright is still alive and well and we&nbsp;need to respect=20
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Perhaps the subject has come up in the past and Jeff or Tom or =
one of the=20
other longer-term list members may be able to address this better . .=20
.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D510384900-16042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>--=20
Mona</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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the=20
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<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<B>(i=
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article from=20
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permitted to use=20
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