offlist--Re: [CANSLIM] Q: Accelerating growth


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: offlist--Re: [CANSLIM] Q: Accelerating growth
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 14:34:01 -0500

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I might be all wrong here, but I think what you've calculated is =
velocity rather than acceleration.

Acceleration =3D rate of change
Velocity =3D rate of change of the rate of change + direction

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mike Gibbons=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:24 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] Q: Accelerating growth


  I've often seen WON and IBD refer to the need for "accelerating =
growth".
  Strictly speaking, that means that the *rate of change* of growth =
should be
  positive.

  In yesterday's Investor's Corner they said of PHA, "At the time, =
earnings
  growth was accelerating (8% to 35% to 57%)". So the change in growth =
was
  from 8% to 35% (27%) to 35% to 57% (22%). So the *rate of change* of =
growth
  was 22 - 27 -> -5. That is, growth was decelerating not accelerating

  Now as a physics major, I may be too picky, but I believe that =
language
  should be used correctly or it loses its value. It seems to me that =
what
  they mean is "earnings growth was increasing".

  In that case the WON rule that says that "sales growth should be
  accelerating" needs to be restated to "sales growth should be =
increasing".

  Aloha,

  Mike Gibbons
  Proactive Technologies, LLC
  http://www.proactech.com


  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
  [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Warren Keuffel
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:55 AM
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] IBD's Industry Group and Ticker Symbol Index


  If you intend to pursue a group-oriented strategy, and you intend to =
use
  IBD's 197 industry group tables, the book is indispensible because =
it's
  not always obvious which companies are assigned to which industry
  groups. I'm using Vector Vest now, which has its own industry =
groupings,
  so I no longer buy the IBD books.

  HTH.
  Warren

  rolf hertenstein wrote:

  >Hello all -
  >
  >Could anyone who has used this guide in the past
  >tell me if they
  >indeed found it useful?  I'll likely wait for the
  >next issue due in June
  >in any case.
  >
  >Thanks!
  >
  > Rolf
  >
  >
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<DIV>I might be all wrong here, but I think what you've calculated is =
velocity=20
rather than acceleration.</DIV>
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<DIV>Acceleration =3D rate of change</DIV>
<DIV>Velocity =3D rate of change of the rate of change + direction</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>I've often seen WON and IBD refer to the need for =
"accelerating=20
  growth".<BR>Strictly speaking, that means that the *rate of change* of =
growth=20
  should be<BR>positive.<BR><BR>In yesterday's Investor's Corner they =
said of=20
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57%)". So=20
  the change in growth was<BR>from 8% to 35% (27%) to 35% to 57% (22%). =
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  *rate of change* of growth<BR>was 22 - 27 -&gt; -5. That is, growth =
was=20
  decelerating not accelerating<BR><BR>Now as a physics major, I may be =
too=20
  picky, but I believe that language<BR>should be used correctly or it =
loses its=20
  value. It seems to me that what<BR>they mean is "earnings growth was=20
  increasing".<BR><BR>In that case the WON rule that says that "sales =
growth=20
  should be<BR>accelerating" needs to be restated to "sales growth =
should be=20
  increasing".<BR><BR>Aloha,<BR><BR>Mike Gibbons<BR>Proactive =
Technologies,=20
  LLC<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.proactech.com">http://www.proactech.com</A><BR><BR><BR=
>-----Original=20
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  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On=20
  Behalf Of Warren Keuffel<BR>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:55 =
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  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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  Re: [CANSLIM] IBD's Industry Group and Ticker Symbol =
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  intend to pursue a group-oriented strategy, and you intend to =
use<BR>IBD's 197=20
  industry group tables, the book is indispensible because it's<BR>not =
always=20
  obvious which companies are assigned to which industry<BR>groups. I'm =
using=20
  Vector Vest now, which has its own industry groupings,<BR>so I no =
longer buy=20
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