Re: [CANSLIM] management rankings


From: "Winston Little" <wlittle1@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] management rankings
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:48:16 -0400

Next Article (by Subject): [CANSLIM] SAH "Marty"
Previous Article (by Subject): [CANSLIM] management rankings "webster"
Top of Thread: [CANSLIM] management rankings "webster"
Articles sorted by: [Date] [Author] [Subject]


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1F212.4D6B5F20
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Webster:

CEO =3D Conceited, Egotist, Overpaid=20

However, one or two of the chief execs. that you might look at include =
Tom Golisano of Paychex (PAYX), Jeff Immelt of GE,=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: webster=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:11 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] management rankings


  Hi everyone this is my first Post.

  I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered recently.

  I have developed an interest in quality of management(havent we all in =
this environment) But I am trying to find sources of information =
regarding this- whether it be informed debate or industry rankings or =
whatever.
  I am hoping a forum such as this has more than its fair share of =
fundamental investors that can help me on my quest.

  It seems to me that excellent management will eventually lead to =
positive results (assuming that they are not in a dying industry) That =
being said timing is important as well.
  I have for a long time concentrated on TA for timing decisions but not =
as a day trader eg I use weekly charts a lot!=20

  I am not an ego driven trader/investor- I do not have to be "right " =
but anyone who has read Van Tharps book "trade your way to financial =
freedom" will know that even a 10% win loss ratio can be very successful =
as long as your average winners are big enough and your losses small =
enough in comparison.

  This is where my concerns about management quality comes in. In this =
whipsaw type of market even solid stocks are being punished. So it is =
quite concievable that your stock selection can see you invest in a =
great company at a reasonable(not overextended price) only to see your =
stock plummet 20% or more.
  With the ability to have your losers at 20% our winners must be much =
bigger to stay in front. Unless of course you trust your stock picking =
to be 100% right and then you dont have any losers! (Unforunately that =
is not me!) I believe we have to have a get out point even if you are an =
investor and not a trader.  So back to management quality. Any company =
can have a bad quarter or two due to bad luck or economic (external) =
reasons. The key to whether we should invest in these devalued stocks is =
whether we can believe what management says about future prospects etc. =
We all can relate to a stock we have in hindsite held too long on the =
way down, based on the soothing words of management at the time of the =
distribution phase. As an Australia investor there are some well known =
examples- Pasminco(Mining) HIH(insurance) Onetel(telecom)
  All were considered well run companies at some stage. All gave =
investors soothing words and all burned the faithful ones big time. =
Obviously in the US Enron, Global crossing, etc are better known =
examples to you all.

  So what are some of the better regarded CEO's why are they considered =
so good?=20

  I look forward to hearing some suggestions

  Cheers

  Peter



- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1F212.4D6B5F20
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Webster:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CEO =3D Conceited, Egotist, Overpaid =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However, one or two of the chief execs. =
that you=20
might look at include Tom Golisano of Paychex&nbsp;(PAYX), =
Jeff&nbsp;Immelt of=20
GE, </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dpwebste1@bigpond.net.au=20
  href=3D"mailto:pwebste1@bigpond.net.au">webster</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 02, 2002 =
8:11=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] management=20
  rankings</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi everyone this is my first =
Post.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I apologize in advance if this topic =
has been=20
  covered recently.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have developed an interest in =
quality of=20
  management(havent we all in this environment) But I am trying to find =
sources=20
  of information regarding this- whether it be informed debate or =
industry=20
  rankings or whatever.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am hoping a forum such as this has =
more than=20
  its fair share of fundamental investors that can help me on my=20
  quest.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seems to me that excellent =
management will=20
  eventually lead to positive results (assuming that they are not in a =
dying=20
  industry) That being said timing is important as well.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have for a long time concentrated =
on TA for=20
  timing decisions but not as a day trader eg I use weekly charts a lot! =

  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am not an ego driven =
trader/investor- I do not=20
  have to be "right " but anyone who has read Van Tharps book "trade =
your way to=20
  financial freedom" will know that even a 10% win loss ratio can be =
very=20
  successful as long as your average winners are big enough and your =
losses=20
  small enough in comparison.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is where my concerns about =
management=20
  quality comes in. In this whipsaw type of market even solid stocks are =
being=20
  punished. So it is quite concievable that your stock selection can see =
you=20
  invest in a great company at a reasonable(not overextended price) only =
to see=20
  your stock plummet 20% or more.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With the ability to have your losers =
at 20% our=20
  winners must be much bigger to stay in front. Unless of course you =
trust your=20
  stock picking to be 100% right and then you dont have any losers!=20
  (Unforunately that is not me!) I believe we have to have a get out =
point even=20
  if you are an investor and not a trader.&nbsp; So back to management =
quality.=20
  Any company can have a bad quarter or two due to bad luck or economic=20
  (external) reasons. The key to whether we should invest in these =
devalued=20
  stocks is whether we can believe what management says about future =
prospects=20
  etc. We all can relate to a stock we have in hindsite held too long on =
the way=20
  down, based on the soothing words of management at the time of the=20
  distribution phase. As an Australia investor there are some well known =

  examples- Pasminco(Mining) HIH(insurance) Onetel(telecom)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All were considered well run =
companies at some=20
  stage. All gave investors soothing words and all burned the faithful =
ones big=20
  time. Obviously in the US Enron, Global crossing, etc are better known =

  examples to you all.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So what are some of the better =
regarded CEO's why=20
  are they considered so good? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I look forward to hearing some=20
  suggestions</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1F212.4D6B5F20--


- -
- -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"
- -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
- -"unsubscribe canslim".  Do not use quotes in your email.

Next Article (by Subject): [CANSLIM] SAH "Marty"
Previous Article (by Subject): [CANSLIM] management rankings "webster"
Top of Thread: [CANSLIM] management rankings "webster"
Articles sorted by: [Date] [Author] [Subject]


Go to Jeff Salisbury LWGate Home Page.