Re: [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida


From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 08:39:20 -0400

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after going thru all the indexes this morning, however, I think there =
was a lot more to it than that. I have been saying for a long time that =
there is a lot ($3 trillion, last report I saw) of money that is =
sidelined. Much of this is institutional, and wants to get back in, and =
much of that will flow to the past big names and big winners, many =
(most?) of which are battered down and would be of little interest to us =
here. CSCO is but one example of that. Most of them in the tech arena =
did very well yesterday. I have no doubt some of that was short =
covering, but I think if we had a way to measure sidelined cash on a =
daily basis, we would see a tremendous amount was moving back in.

Looking at the indexes, it appeared the ones that had been doing the =
best, such as the Russell 2000, were up the least. And the worst =
performers lately, Nasdaq heading that category, had the biggest gains. =
This tells me there was also a lot of "value shopping" going on, exactly =
the kind of mentality I expect from most institutional investors.

If Wed's trading was dominated solely by short covering, then it is =
unlikely to last, as shorters will lick their wounds if they didn't =
cover for a net gain, then short again at a higher price if the rally =
persists more than a day or two.

Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
AIM: TexWorley
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida


Ian I agree with you about the fuel that was moving the market =
yesterday. While the CSCO news got the ball rolling, it appears that =
there was heavy short covering that continued push the market higher.

=20

E

=20

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ian [mailto:ianstm@shaw.ca]=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:57 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida

=20

"The question now to be answered is if this shift back to the many =
(most?) beaten down tech stocks, whether big or small"

=20

As far as I can tell, todays 'shift' was into the most heavily shorted =
issues. For the past 2 years, that kind of manic squeezing hasn't been =
indicative of any solid long-term trends. It sure looked like it had =
legs today though - I suspect that too many shorts at this stage in the =
game can provide more fuel for a while.

=20

These kind of gyrations sure seem to make CANSLIM investing more =
difficult.

=20

Ian

=20

=20

  ----- Original Message -----=20

  From: Tom Worley=20

  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20

  Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:59 PM

  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida

  =20

  Chris, my impression today was that my biggest gainers were mostly the =
ones that have held up well over the past few weeks (EPIQ being one =
example, up 5.5%). My worst performers were ones, for the most part, =
that were weak in recent weeks. But my biggest gainer today was OVRL, up =
over 31%, despite its recent weakness.

  =20

  My VR Fund was up 3.5%, my IT stocks, comprising 74%, was up 4.9%, so =
clearly today was a move back to technology.

  =20

  The question now to be answered is if this shift back to the many =
(most?) beaten down tech stocks, whether big or small (CSCO gained 24% =
today on its first positive year to year quarter in over a year).

  =20

  Tom Worley
  stkguru@bellsouth.net
  AIM: TexWorley

  ----- Original Message -----=20

  From: Vanchee1@aol.com=20

  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20

  Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 6:44 PM

  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida

  =20

  Sometimes we who are close to the market look too deep in what forces =
are behind a trend change. In actuality, when the masses go home after =
work and hear about this nice rally some will want to jump on the train, =
which can keep the momentum going. Bottom line, have a good list of =
stocks to watch, and be ready to buy when a market turn is confirmed. As =
always buy the quality, even if they did not participate in today's =
rally they will come around, break out and surpass most others. =
Personally I am 100% invested in stocks and was up only 1% today, yes a =
little disappointed, but am glad to be up over 30% so far this year and =
look forward to the market turning.


  Enjoy,  Chris=20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>after going thru all the indexes this morning, =
however, I=20
think there was a lot more to it than that. I have been saying for a =
long time=20
that there is a lot ($3 trillion, last report I saw) of money that is =
sidelined.=20
Much of this is institutional, and wants to get back in, and much of =
that will=20
flow to the past big names and big winners, many (most?) of which are =
battered=20
down and would be of little interest to us here. CSCO is but one example =
of=20
that. Most of them in the tech arena did very well yesterday. I have no =
doubt=20
some of that was short covering, but I think if we had a way to measure=20
sidelined cash on a daily basis, we would see a tremendous amount was =
moving=20
back in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Looking at the indexes, it appeared the ones =
that had been=20
doing the best, such as the Russell 2000, were up the least. And the =
worst=20
performers lately, Nasdaq heading that category, had the biggest gains. =
This=20
tells me there was also a lot of "value shopping" going on, exactly the =
kind of=20
mentality I expect from most institutional investors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>If Wed's trading was dominated solely by short =
covering,=20
then it is unlikely to last, as shorters will lick their wounds if they =
didn't=20
cover for a net gain, then short again at a higher price if the rally =
persists=20
more than a day or two.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
TexWorley</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com =
href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill, Ernie</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:31 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ian I agree =
with you=20
about the fuel that was moving the market yesterday. While the CSCO news =
got the=20
ball rolling, it appears that there was heavy short covering that =
continued push=20
the market higher.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
Ian=20
[mailto:ianstm@shaw.ca] <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>=20
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:57 PM<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] Curious in =

Florida</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"The question now to be =
answered is=20
if this shift back to the many (most?) beaten down tech stocks, whether =
big or=20
small"</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">As far as I can tell, todays =
'shift' was=20
into the most heavily shorted issues. For the past 2 years, that kind of =
manic=20
squeezing hasn't been indicative of any solid long-term trends. It sure =
looked=20
like it had legs today though - I suspect that too many shorts at this =
stage in=20
the game can provide more fuel for a =
while.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">These kind of gyrations sure =
seem to make=20
CANSLIM investing more difficult.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
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  face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
  title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
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=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:59 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> Re:=20
  [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chris, my impression =
today was=20
  that my biggest gainers were mostly the ones that have held up well =
over the=20
  past few weeks (EPIQ being one example, up 5.5%). My worst performers =
were=20
  ones, for the most part, that were weak in recent weeks. But my =
biggest gainer=20
  today was OVRL, up over 31%, despite its recent=20
  weakness.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My VR Fund was up 3.5%, =
my IT=20
  stocks, comprising 74%, was up 4.9%, so&nbsp;clearly today was a move =
back to=20
  technology.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The question now to be =
answered is=20
  if this shift back to the many (most?) beaten down tech stocks, =
whether big or=20
  small (CSCO gained 24% today on its first positive year to year =
quarter in=20
  over a year).</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
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  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tom Worley<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
  TexWorley<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Arial"> <A=20
  title=3DVanchee1@aol.com =
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  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  [CANSLIM] Curious in Florida<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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  we who are close to the market look too deep in what forces are behind =
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  change. In actuality, when the masses go home after work and hear =
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  nice rally some will want to jump on the train, which can keep the =
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  going. Bottom line, have a good list of stocks to watch, and be ready =
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  when a market turn is confirmed. As always buy the quality, even if =
they did=20
  not participate in today's rally they will come around, break out and =
surpass=20
  most others. Personally I am 100% invested in stocks and was up only =
1% today,=20
  yes a little disappointed, but am glad to be up over 30% so far this =
year and=20
  look forward to the market turning.<BR><BR><BR>Enjoy,&nbsp;=20
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