Re: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 01:02:57 -0500

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Hi Tom,

I'm not surprised by the low management ownership, as it's common when a =
stock is a spin-off. (This,  from LTD in Aug '99). While I know you much =
prefer companies still in the entrepreneurial stage with high mgmt =
ownership, spin-offs have a history of doing very well in most cases. =
Freedom from the mother-ship allows the new company to focus on their =
specific product/marketing niche. TOO seems pretty savvy at attacking =
the pre-teen girl niche. They have few competitors that serve the market =
as comprehensively.

I don't remember exactly when, but TOO was added to the S&P Small Cap =
600 recently. I remember at the time that there was a big runup in price =
in anticipation. Once it was officially added, the price took a hike =
South. The addition to the index may explain the fairly high =
institutional ownership.

Katherine

PS...Darn...was hoping the weblink was gone for good!! :)) I really HATE =
all those eyeballs....

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tom Worley=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WebLinks


  Duke, I also note that IBD seems to be reinventing their own version =
of
  CANSLIM. WON, in HTMMIS, talks about selecting stocks with at least =
25%
  earnings growth. The forecast for TOO, per DGO, is only 18% for =
present
  year.

  DGO does not show total institutional holdings, only funds and banks. =
For
  funds, they show 35%. With Management only holding a paltry 1%, then =
funds
  alone control this stock. And the big quarter is naturally the 4th, =
ending
  Jan '03, so you won't now into well into next year if they will even =
make
  that 18%.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Duke Miller" <dukemill@tampabay.rr.com>
  To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WebLinks


  Norm & Katherine, et al:

  Yes, it is back.

  And tooday's feature, TOO, doesn't look too bad either.  But 78%
  Institutional?  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the =
reasons
  you want low sponsorship include a) so you can get in before the
  institutional folks who are responsible for 75% of the volume, etc, =
and
  b) so you can avoid the huge gyrations those people can cause in a
  stock?

  I find it odd they feature these stocks in the Web link, but don't
  venture here.  Note in the Too analysis, they speak to the fact the =
high
  volume, 1,100,000 AVD, means it's "institutional quality."

  I'm beginning to think maybe WON isn't screening his own paper's
  editorial that much. I'm also starting to believe a lot of what's
  getting passed off in IBD is horse puckey!  Or maybe I'm just getting
  frustrated that the pickin's they're slim.

  Duke

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
  [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Norman
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:59 PM
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WebLinks


  And it's back again.  And still free.  Must be magic!

  Sorry Katherine.

  I find it odd that this is available to the non-subscribing public
  though. A departure from their "sell everything" philosophy.

  Norm

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Winston Little" <wlittle1@peoplepc.com>
  To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WebLinks


  > Duke:
  >
  > Bingo!
  >
  > Look for it tomorrow at $2/ company!
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Duke Miller" <dukemill@tampabay.rr.com>
  > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:58 PM
  > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WebLinks
  >
  >
  > > Thanks Winston and Norm.
  > >
  > > They're probably figuring a way to charge us for it!
  > >
  > > Duke
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Winston
  > > Little
  > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:14 PM
  > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WebLinks
  > >
  > >
  > > Duke:
  > > The link supplied by Norm worked this morning at about 10:00am.
  > > However there were only the Monday feature (AZO) and three prior
  > > stocks. The older ones had gone. When I saw your recent note, I
  > > tried again and also found the "Page Cannot Be Found " note.
  > >
  > >                     Winston.
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Duke Miller" <dukemill@tampabay.rr.com>
  > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:55 PM
  > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WebLinks
  > >
  > >
  > > > I get only a "Page Cannot be Found" when clicking that link.
  > > >
  > > > Duke
  > > >
  > > > -----Original Message-----
  > > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
  > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:56 AM
  > > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WebLinks
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Winston,
  > > >
  > > > Just go to www.investors.com/weblink/.  The company profiled =
today

  > > > is AZO, a timely analysis.
  > > >
  > > > Norm
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Winston Little writes:
  > > >
  > > > > Web Links have disappeared from the IBD web site.
  > > > >
  > > > > Will they be back tomorrow at $2/ company?
  > > >
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<DIV>Hi Tom,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I'm not surprised by the low management ownership, as&nbsp;it's =
common when=20
a stock is a spin-off. (This,&nbsp; from LTD in Aug '99). While I know =
you much=20
prefer companies still in the entrepreneurial stage with high mgmt =
ownership,=20
spin-offs have a history of doing very well in most cases. Freedom from =
the=20
mother-ship allows the new company to focus on their specific =
product/marketing=20
niche. TOO seems pretty savvy at attacking the pre-teen girl niche. They =
have=20
few competitors that serve the market as comprehensively.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I don't remember exactly when, but TOO was added to the S&amp;P =
Small Cap=20
600 recently. I remember at the time that there was a big runup in price =
in=20
anticipation. Once it was officially added, the price took a hike South. =
The=20
addition to the index may explain the fairly high institutional =
ownership.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>PS...Darn...was hoping the weblink was gone for good!! :)) I really =
HATE=20
all those eyeballs....</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">Tom=20
  Worley</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 14, 2002 =
11:35=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
WebLinks</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Duke, I also note that IBD seems to be reinventing =
their own=20
  version of<BR>CANSLIM. WON, in HTMMIS, talks about selecting stocks =
with at=20
  least 25%<BR>earnings growth. The forecast for TOO, per DGO, is only =
18% for=20
  present<BR>year.<BR><BR>DGO does not show total institutional =
holdings, only=20
  funds and banks. For<BR>funds, they show 35%. With Management only =
holding a=20
  paltry 1%, then funds<BR>alone control this stock. And the big quarter =
is=20
  naturally the 4th, ending<BR>Jan '03, so you won't now into well into =
next=20
  year if they will even make<BR>that 18%.<BR><BR>----- Original Message =

  -----<BR>From: "Duke Miller" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">dukemill@tampabay.rr.com</A>&gt;=
<BR>To:=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
  Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:15 PM<BR>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM]=20
  WebLinks<BR><BR><BR>Norm &amp; Katherine, et al:<BR><BR>Yes, it is=20
  back.<BR><BR>And tooday's feature, TOO, doesn't look too bad =
either.&nbsp; But=20
  78%<BR>Institutional?&nbsp; Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but =
don't the=20
  reasons<BR>you want low sponsorship include a) so you can get in =
before=20
  the<BR>institutional folks who are responsible for 75% of the volume, =
etc,=20
  and<BR>b) so you can avoid the huge gyrations those people can cause =
in=20
  a<BR>stock?<BR><BR>I find it odd they feature these stocks in the Web =
link,=20
  but don't<BR>venture here.&nbsp; Note in the Too analysis, they speak =
to the=20
  fact the high<BR>volume, 1,100,000 AVD, means it's "institutional=20
  quality."<BR><BR>I'm beginning to think maybe WON isn't screening his =
own=20
  paper's<BR>editorial that much. I'm also starting to believe a lot of=20
  what's<BR>getting passed off in IBD is horse puckey!&nbsp; Or maybe =
I'm just=20
  getting<BR>frustrated that the pickin's they're=20
  slim.<BR><BR>Duke<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20
  On Behalf Of Norman<BR>Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:59 PM<BR>To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>Subject:=20
  Re: [CANSLIM] WebLinks<BR><BR><BR>And it's back again.&nbsp; And still =

  free.&nbsp; Must be magic!<BR><BR>Sorry Katherine.<BR><BR>I find it =
odd that=20
  this is available to the non-subscribing public<BR>though. A departure =
from=20
  their "sell everything" philosophy.<BR><BR>Norm<BR><BR>----- Original =
Message=20
  -----<BR>From: "Winston Little" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:wlittle1@peoplepc.com">wlittle1@peoplepc.com</A>&gt;<BR>To=
:=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
  Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:04 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM]=20
  WebLinks<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Duke:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Bingo!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
Look for=20
  it tomorrow at $2/ company!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message=20
  -----<BR>&gt; From: "Duke Miller" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">dukemill@tampabay.rr.com</A>&gt;=
<BR>&gt;=20
  To: &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:58 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: [CANSLIM]=20
  WebLinks<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Thanks Winston and Norm.<BR>&gt; =

  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; They're probably figuring a way to charge us for =
it!<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Duke<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original=20
  Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of =
Winston<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; Little<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:14 PM<BR>&gt; =
&gt; To:=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WebLinks<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  Duke:<BR>&gt; &gt; The link supplied by Norm worked this morning at =
about=20
  10:00am.<BR>&gt; &gt; However there were only the Monday feature (AZO) =
and=20
  three prior<BR>&gt; &gt; stocks. The older ones had gone. When I saw =
your=20
  recent note, I<BR>&gt; &gt; tried again and also found the "Page =
Cannot Be=20
  Found " note.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Winston.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message =
- -----<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  From: "Duke Miller" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">dukemill@tampabay.rr.com</A>&gt;=
<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; To: &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:55 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: =
[CANSLIM]=20
  WebLinks<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; I get only a =
"Page Cannot=20
  be Found" when clicking that link.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =

  Duke<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original =
Message-----<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; From: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of =
Boyd<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:56 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; To: <A =

  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WebLinks<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Winston,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Just go to=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.investors.com/weblink/">www.investors.com/weblink/</A>=
.&nbsp;=20
  The company profiled today<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; is AZO, a timely=20
  analysis.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Norm<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Winston Little =
writes:<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Web Links have disappeared from the =
IBD web=20
  site.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Will they be back =
tomorrow=20
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