Re: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)


From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:38:10 -0400

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MessageThe chapter in HTMMIS on "S" is titled "S =3D Supply and Demand: =
Small Capitalization plus Volume Demand" - that says it all

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From: Duke Miller=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)


Can't tell you how many stocks I've passed on with over 50% =
institutional. =20

Care to elaborate on your comment about S?

Thanks

Duke
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:03 PM
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
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  Duke, not that many years ago, WON's exhortations to pick stocks with =
a few (but not many) institutional investors already holding it was the =
gospel. But that seems to have gone out the window along with the rules =
on "S"

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Duke Miller=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:00 PM
  Subject: RE: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)


  Thanks, Katherine,

  I just am guilty of interpreting WON too tightly, sometimes.  His =
whole point (I thought) seems to be you got to get in before they do, =
lest you be subject to their whims, blah, blah...

  Duke
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    From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
    Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:41 PM
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Subject: Re: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)


    Hi Duke,

    I see plenty of stocks doing well and/or setting up good bases that =
have lower institutional sponsorship. Unless the % is extraordinarily =
high, it doesn't bother me all that much. Afterall, CANSLIM is about =
riding on the coat tails of the big money, so no institutional money, no =
coat tails!

    Katherine
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Duke Miller=20
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:19 AM
      Subject: RE: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)


      So, Katherine,

      What's your take on the institutional domination of a lot of the =
better looking stocks (at least for now).  Could it be these are in the =
limelight because it's the only place the institutions have been =
venturing into?

      Duke
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
        Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:03 AM
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
        Subject: Re: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)


        Hi Tom,

        I'm not surprised by the low management ownership, as it's =
common when a stock is a spin-off. (This,  from LTD in Aug '99). While I =
know you much prefer companies still in the entrepreneurial stage with =
high mgmt ownership, spin-offs have a history of doing very well in most =
cases. Freedom from the mother-ship allows the new company to focus on =
their specific product/marketing niche. TOO seems pretty savvy at =
attacking the pre-teen girl niche. They have few competitors that serve =
the market as comprehensively.

        I don't remember exactly when, but TOO was added to the S&P =
Small Cap 600 recently. I remember at the time that there was a big =
runup in price in anticipation. Once it was officially added, the price =
took a hike South. The addition to the index may explain the fairly high =
institutional ownership.

        Katherine

        PS...Darn...was hoping the weblink was gone for good!! :)) I =
really HATE all those eyeballs....


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The chapter in HTMMIS on "S" is titled "S =3D =
Supply and=20
Demand: Small Capitalization plus Volume Demand" - that says it =
all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddukemill@tampabay.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">Duke=20
Miller</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:29 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D233102713-16052002><FONT face=3DArial>Can't tell you =
how many=20
stocks I've passed on with over 50% institutional.&nbsp; =
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D233102713-16052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D233102713-16052002><FONT face=3DArial>Care to =
elaborate on your=20
comment about S?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D233102713-16052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D233102713-16052002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D233102713-16052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D233102713-16052002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>=20
  [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom=20
  Worley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
  Re: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Duke, not that many years ago, WON's =
exhortations to=20
  pick stocks with a few (but not many) institutional investors already =
holding=20
  it was the gospel. But that seems to have gone out the window along =
with the=20
  rules on "S"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Ddukemill@tampabay.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">Duke=20
  Miller</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:00 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] WebLinks)</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D295595802-16052002><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks,=20
  Katherine,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D295595802-16052002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D295595802-16052002><FONT face=3DArial>I just am =
guilty of=20
  interpreting WON too tightly, sometimes.&nbsp; His whole point (I =
thought)=20
  seems to be you got to get in before they do, lest you be subject to =
their=20
  whims, blah, blah...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D295595802-16052002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D295595802-16052002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A =

    =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>=20
    [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Katherine=20
    Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: TOO (was:[CANSLIM] =

    WebLinks)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>Hi Duke,</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I see plenty of stocks doing well and/or setting up good bases =
that=20
    have lower institutional sponsorship. Unless the % is =
extraordinarily high,=20
    it doesn't bother me all that much. Afterall, CANSLIM is about =
riding on the=20
    coat tails of the big money, so no institutional money, no coat =
tails!</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Ddukemill@tampabay.rr.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">Duke Miller</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 15, =
2002 7:19=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: TOO =
(was:[CANSLIM]=20
      WebLinks)</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D124171812-15052002><FONT face=3DArial>So,=20
      Katherine,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D124171812-15052002><FONT=20
      face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D124171812-15052002><FONT face=3DArial>What's =
your take on=20
      the institutional domination of a lot of the better looking stocks =
(at=20
      least for now).&nbsp; Could it be these are in the limelight =
because it's=20
      the only place the institutions have been venturing=20
      into?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D124171812-15052002><FONT=20
      face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D124171812-15052002><FONT=20
      face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV></DIV>
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
        face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>=20
        [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Katherine=20
        Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:03 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: TOO =
(was:[CANSLIM]=20
        WebLinks)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>Hi Tom,</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>I'm not surprised by the low management ownership, =
as&nbsp;it's=20
        common when a stock is a spin-off. (This,&nbsp; from LTD in Aug =
'99).=20
        While I know you much prefer companies still in the =
entrepreneurial=20
        stage with high mgmt ownership, spin-offs have a history of =
doing very=20
        well in most cases. Freedom from the mother-ship allows the new =
company=20
        to focus on their specific product/marketing niche. TOO seems =
pretty=20
        savvy at attacking the pre-teen girl niche. They have few =
competitors=20
        that serve the market as comprehensively.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>I don't remember exactly when, but TOO was added to the =
S&amp;P=20
        Small Cap 600 recently. I remember at the time that there was a =
big=20
        runup in price in anticipation. Once it was officially added, =
the price=20
        took a hike South. The addition to the index may explain the =
fairly high=20
        institutional ownership.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>PS...Darn...was hoping the weblink was gone for good!! :)) =
I really=20
        HATE all those eyeballs....</DIV>
        =
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BO=
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