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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 08:50:15 -0400
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0148_01C1FE49.076CE7D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting, Katherine. I have had DGO open since 6 AM, and it had the = single digit nrs, just went back and looked again. So I closed it, and = reopened it, and voila, the earnings forecast changed. This disturbs me, = as I have always assumed that as of 6 AM on Saturday (3 AM LA time) that = the data was fully updated and stable. Obviously this is not so, and = sometime in the past 3 hours they did more updates. I am going to have = to put a disclosure in my WWW list today, as I was already half way thru = it, and not going back over everything. - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) Tom, I took a quick glance at ANFI in the old version of DGO last night and = it showed the 1% estimates you originally sited. This morning it shows = the new numbers. Just goes to show how dramatically earnings estimates = can change and I think also supports the notion that the technicals more = often tell the tale of what's going on than the forward estimates or = past fundamentals alone. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Worley=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:35 AM Subject: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff) The difference is in which version of DGO you are using, the new = version has the +46%, 2.00 est for 2002 and -6%, 1.86 for 2003. I realize they are no longer supporting version 4.0 after May, very surprised that they would abandon the data quality already. I am = reporting it for verification as to which version has correct data. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich W" <rich1334@brick.net> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff Bill, and Tom, I got some thing else for ANFI 2002 2.00 est. +46% 2003 1.83 est -7% And I have Ver 4 for the last Q .72 vs .26 =3D +177% From DGO, but when I went to the book, page 42 , it had what Tom had = noted so why is there such difference, very odd, what do you guy's think now Rich Weinhold 636-240-7267 AAII CISIG Group. STL Stock Analysis Group Coordinator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff Hi Bill, DGO version 4 shows 1.39 (+1%) for 2002 and 1.36 (-2%) for 2003 ----- Original Message ----- From: "William King" <wk11@adelphia.net> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff Tom, Re ANFI - I'm confused. I read the earnings forecast from DGO as +46 = for 2002 and -8 for 2003. Am I reading the data boxes wrong? Thanks, Bill King ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff > yes, DGO > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marty" <majorgenson@attbi.com> > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff > > > Where did you find the earning forecast? from DGO if so where? > > Marty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net> > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff > > > > Ian, > > > > ANFI has a very weak earnings forecast (1% this year, -1% next). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ian" <ianstm@shaw.ca> > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff > > > > > > Not in my little CANSLIM universe. I had an wonderfully strong = week. > > > > My ticker list even includes some with 'real' prices. I'll throw = out a few > > here for the groups weekend perusal, admitting that I haven't = checked > their > > IBD numbers, only their most recent earnings reports, outlooks, valuations > > and charts: > > > > 'Real' prices: > > > > EXAC > > GLYN > > GRMN > > LABS > > RMCI > > SRT > > > > 'Almost' prices: > > ALU > > ANFI > > APFC > > FBAY > > FSTW > > ISIG > > > > > > 'Too low' prices: > > CTIB > > CVU > > SMAN > > TWH > > > > > > If you want to get a feel for how the market is rewarding = microcaps that > > suddenly start to perform, check out the monthly charts for CVU, = CTIB and > > FSTW. They are amazing to watch. > > > > Ian > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > > > > > > - > > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. > > > > > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_0148_01C1FE49.076CE7D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Interesting, Katherine. I have had DGO open = since 6 AM,=20 and it had the single digit nrs, just went back and looked again. So I = closed=20 it, and reopened it, and voila, the earnings forecast changed. This = disturbs me,=20 as I have always assumed that as of 6 AM on Saturday (3 AM LA time) that = the=20 data was fully updated and stable. Obviously this is not so, and = sometime in the=20 past 3 hours they did more updates. I am going to have to put a = disclosure in my=20 WWW list today, as I was already half way thru it, and not going back = over=20 everything.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net = href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine Malm</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:40 AM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff)</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Tom,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I took a quick glance at ANFI in the old version of DGO last night = and it=20 showed the 1% estimates you originally sited. This morning it shows the = new=20 numbers. Just goes to show how dramatically earnings estimates can = change and I=20 think also supports the notion that the technicals more often tell the = tale of=20 what's going on than the forward estimates or past fundamentals = alone.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Katherine</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net = href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">Tom=20 Worley</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 18, 2002 = 7:35=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> ANFI (was Re: = [CANSLIM] our=20 stuff)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>The difference is in which version of DGO you are = using, the=20 new version has<BR>the +46%, 2.00 est for 2002 and -6%, 1.86 for=20 2003.<BR><BR>I realize they are no longer supporting version 4.0 after = May,=20 very<BR>surprised that they would abandon the data quality already. I = am=20 reporting<BR>it for verification as to which version has correct=20 data.<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Rich W" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:rich1334@brick.net">rich1334@brick.net</A>><BR>To: = <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>Sent:=20 Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:27 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20 stuff<BR><BR><BR>Bill, and Tom,<BR>I got some thing else for=20 ANFI<BR>2002 2.00 est. +46%<BR>2003 1.83 = est =20 -7%<BR>And I have Ver 4<BR><BR>for the last Q .72 vs .26 =3D = +177%<BR>From=20 DGO, but when I went to the book, page 42 , it had what Tom had=20 noted<BR>so why is there such difference, very odd, what do you guy's = think=20 now<BR><BR>Rich Weinhold<BR>636-240-7267<BR>AAII CISIG Group.<BR>STL = Stock=20 Analysis<BR>Group Coordinator<BR>----- Original Message = - -----<BR>From:=20 "Tom Worley" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>To= :=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>Sent:=20 Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:17 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20 stuff<BR><BR><BR>Hi Bill,<BR><BR>DGO version 4 shows 1.39 (+1%) for = 2002 and=20 1.36 (-2%) for 2003<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: = "William=20 King" <<A = href=3D"mailto:wk11@adelphia.net">wk11@adelphia.net</A>><BR>To:=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>Sent:=20 Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:13 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20 stuff<BR><BR><BR>Tom,<BR>Re ANFI - I'm confused. I read the earnings = forecast=20 from DGO as +46 for<BR>2002 and -8 for 2003. Am I reading the data = boxes=20 wrong?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Bill King<BR>----- Original Message = - -----<BR>From:=20 "Tom Worley" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>To= :=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>Sent:=20 Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:03 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20 stuff<BR><BR><BR>> yes, DGO<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message=20 -----<BR>> From: "Marty" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majorgenson@attbi.com">majorgenson@attbi.com</A>><BR>&g= t; To:=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>>=20 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:59 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] = our=20 stuff<BR>><BR>><BR>> Where did you find the earning forecast? = from=20 DGO if so where?<BR>><BR>> Marty<BR>> ----- Original Message=20 -----<BR>> From: "Tom Worley" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>&g= t; To:=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>>=20 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:18 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20 stuff<BR>><BR>><BR>> > Ian,<BR>> ><BR>> > ANFI = has a=20 very weak earnings forecast (1% this year, -1% next).<BR>> = ><BR>>=20 > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Ian" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:ianstm@shaw.ca">ianstm@shaw.ca</A>><BR>> > To: = <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR>>=20 > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:49 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: = [CANSLIM]=20 our stuff<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Not in my little = CANSLIM=20 universe. I had an wonderfully strong week.<BR>> ><BR>> > = My=20 ticker list even includes some with 'real' prices. I'll throw out=20 a<BR>few<BR>> > here for the groups weekend perusal, admitting = that I=20 haven't checked<BR>> their<BR>> > IBD numbers, only their = most recent=20 earnings reports, outlooks,<BR>valuations<BR>> > and = charts:<BR>>=20 ><BR>> > 'Real' prices:<BR>> ><BR>> > = EXAC<BR>> >=20 GLYN<BR>> > GRMN<BR>> > LABS<BR>> > RMCI<BR>> = >=20 SRT<BR>> ><BR>> > 'Almost' prices:<BR>> > = ALU<BR>> >=20 ANFI<BR>> > APFC<BR>> > FBAY<BR>> > FSTW<BR>> = >=20 ISIG<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > 'Too low' prices:<BR>> = >=20 CTIB<BR>> > CVU<BR>> > SMAN<BR>> > TWH<BR>> = ><BR>>=20 ><BR>> > If you want to get a feel for how the market is = rewarding=20 microcaps that<BR>> > suddenly start to perform, check out the = monthly=20 charts for CVU, CTIB<BR>and<BR>> > FSTW. They are amazing to=20 watch.<BR>> ><BR>> > Ian<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> = >=20 -<BR>> > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>>= ; >=20 -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>> > = - -"unsubscribe=20 canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.<BR>> ><BR>>=20 ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > -<BR>> > -To=20 subscribe/unsubscribe, email "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>>= ; >=20 -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>> > = - -"unsubscribe=20 canslim". Do not use quotes in your = email.<BR>><BR>><BR>>=20 -<BR>> -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>>= ; -In=20 the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>> -"unsubscribe=20 canslim". 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