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Tom,
I think that they try to meet the 3AM deadline but on occasion for a variety
of reasons, things get fouled up and the deadline falls through.
After all, the people at DGO are only human.
Not Super persons!
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:50 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff)
Interesting, Katherine. I have had DGO open since 6 AM, and it had the
single digit nrs, just went back and looked again. So I closed it, and
reopened it, and voila, the earnings forecast changed. This disturbs me, as
I have always assumed that as of 6 AM on Saturday (3 AM LA time) that the
data was fully updated and stable. Obviously this is not so, and sometime in
the past 3 hours they did more updates. I am going to have to put a
disclosure in my WWW list today, as I was already half way thru it, and not
going back over everything.
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Malm
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff)
Tom,
I took a quick glance at ANFI in the old version of DGO last night and it
showed the 1% estimates you originally sited. This morning it shows the new
numbers. Just goes to show how dramatically earnings estimates can change
and I think also supports the notion that the technicals more often tell the
tale of what's going on than the forward estimates or past fundamentals
alone.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:35 AM
Subject: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff)
The difference is in which version of DGO you are using, the new version
has
the +46%, 2.00 est for 2002 and -6%, 1.86 for 2003.
I realize they are no longer supporting version 4.0 after May, very
surprised that they would abandon the data quality already. I am
reporting
it for verification as to which version has correct data.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich W" <rich1334@brick.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
Bill, and Tom,
I got some thing else for ANFI
2002 2.00 est. +46%
2003 1.83 est -7%
And I have Ver 4
for the last Q .72 vs .26 = +177%
From DGO, but when I went to the book, page 42 , it had what Tom had
noted
so why is there such difference, very odd, what do you guy's think now
Rich Weinhold
636-240-7267
AAII CISIG Group.
STL Stock Analysis
Group Coordinator
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
Hi Bill,
DGO version 4 shows 1.39 (+1%) for 2002 and 1.36 (-2%) for 2003
----- Original Message -----
From: "William King" <wk11@adelphia.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
Tom,
Re ANFI - I'm confused. I read the earnings forecast from DGO as +46 for
2002 and -8 for 2003. Am I reading the data boxes wrong?
Thanks,
Bill King
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
> yes, DGO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marty" <majorgenson@attbi.com>
> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
>
>
> Where did you find the earning forecast? from DGO if so where?
>
> Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Worley" <stkguru@bellsouth.net>
> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
>
>
> > Ian,
> >
> > ANFI has a very weak earnings forecast (1% this year, -1% next).
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ian" <ianstm@shaw.ca>
> > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our stuff
> >
> >
> > Not in my little CANSLIM universe. I had an wonderfully strong week.
> >
> > My ticker list even includes some with 'real' prices. I'll throw out
a
few
> > here for the groups weekend perusal, admitting that I haven't
checked
> their
> > IBD numbers, only their most recent earnings reports, outlooks,
valuations
> > and charts:
> >
> > 'Real' prices:
> >
> > EXAC
> > GLYN
> > GRMN
> > LABS
> > RMCI
> > SRT
> >
> > 'Almost' prices:
> > ALU
> > ANFI
> > APFC
> > FBAY
> > FSTW
> > ISIG
> >
> >
> > 'Too low' prices:
> > CTIB
> > CVU
> > SMAN
> > TWH
> >
> >
> > If you want to get a feel for how the market is rewarding microcaps
that
> > suddenly start to perform, check out the monthly charts for CVU,
CTIB
and
> > FSTW. They are amazing to watch.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D340310713-18052002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D340310713-18052002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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think that they try to meet the 3AM deadline but on occasion for a =
variety of=20
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through.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D340310713-18052002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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all, the people at DGO are only human.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D340310713-18052002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Not=20
Super persons!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom=20
Worley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: ANFI (was Re: =
[CANSLIM] our=20
stuff)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Interesting, Katherine. I have had DGO open =
since 6 AM,=20
and it had the single digit nrs, just went back and looked again. So I =
closed=20
it, and reopened it, and voila, the earnings forecast changed. This =
disturbs=20
me, as I have always assumed that as of 6 AM on Saturday (3 AM LA =
time) that=20
the data was fully updated and stable. Obviously this is not so, and =
sometime=20
in the past 3 hours they did more updates. I am going to have to put a =
disclosure in my WWW list today, as I was already half way thru it, =
and not=20
going back over everything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine Malm</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:40 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: ANFI (was Re: [CANSLIM] our =
stuff)</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tom,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I took a quick glance at ANFI in the old version of DGO last =
night and it=20
showed the 1% estimates you originally sited. This morning it shows =
the new=20
numbers. Just goes to show how dramatically earnings estimates can =
change and=20
I think also supports the notion that the technicals more often tell =
the tale=20
of what's going on than the forward estimates or past fundamentals=20
alone.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">Tom=20
Worley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 18, 2002 =
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AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> ANFI (was Re: =
[CANSLIM] our=20
stuff)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>The difference is in which version of DGO you are =
using, the=20
new version has<BR>the +46%, 2.00 est for 2002 and -6%, 1.86 for=20
2003.<BR><BR>I realize they are no longer supporting version 4.0 =
after May,=20
very<BR>surprised that they would abandon the data quality already. =
I am=20
reporting<BR>it for verification as to which version has correct=20
data.<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Rich W" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:rich1334@brick.net">rich1334@brick.net</A>><BR>To: =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
><BR>Sent:=20
Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:27 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20
stuff<BR><BR><BR>Bill, and Tom,<BR>I got some thing else for=20
ANFI<BR>2002 2.00 est. +46%<BR>2003 1.83 =
est =20
-7%<BR>And I have Ver 4<BR><BR>for the last Q .72 vs .26 =3D=20
+177%<BR>From DGO, but when I went to the book, page 42 , it had =
what=20
Tom had noted<BR>so why is there such difference, very odd, =
what do=20
you guy's think now<BR><BR>Rich Weinhold<BR>636-240-7267<BR>AAII =
CISIG=20
Group.<BR>STL Stock Analysis<BR>Group Coordinator<BR>----- =
Original=20
Message -----<BR>From: "Tom Worley" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>To=
:=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
><BR>Sent:=20
Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:17 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20
stuff<BR><BR><BR>Hi Bill,<BR><BR>DGO version 4 shows 1.39 (+1%) for =
2002 and=20
1.36 (-2%) for 2003<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: =
"William=20
King" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:wk11@adelphia.net">wk11@adelphia.net</A>><BR>To: =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
><BR>Sent:=20
Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:13 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20
stuff<BR><BR><BR>Tom,<BR>Re ANFI - I'm confused. I read the earnings =
forecast from DGO as +46 for<BR>2002 and -8 for 2003. Am I reading =
the data=20
boxes wrong?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Bill King<BR>----- Original Message=20
-----<BR>From: "Tom Worley" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>To=
:=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
><BR>Sent:=20
Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:03 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] our=20
stuff<BR><BR><BR>> yes, DGO<BR>><BR>> ----- Original =
Message=20
-----<BR>> From: "Marty" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:majorgenson@attbi.com">majorgenson@attbi.com</A>><BR>&g=
t;=20
To: <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
><BR>>=20
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:59 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] =
our=20
stuff<BR>><BR>><BR>> Where did you find the earning =
forecast? from=20
DGO if so where?<BR>><BR>> Marty<BR>> ----- Original =
Message=20
-----<BR>> From: "Tom Worley" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>&g=
t;=20
To: <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
><BR>>=20
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:18 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] =
our=20
stuff<BR>><BR>><BR>> > Ian,<BR>> ><BR>> > =
ANFI has a=20
very weak earnings forecast (1% this year, -1% next).<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Ian" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ianstm@shaw.ca">ianstm@shaw.ca</A>><BR>> > =
To: <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
><BR>>=20
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:49 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
our stuff<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Not in my little =
CANSLIM=20
universe. I had an wonderfully strong week.<BR>> ><BR>> =
> My=20
ticker list even includes some with 'real' prices. I'll throw out=20
a<BR>few<BR>> > here for the groups weekend perusal, admitting =
that I=20
haven't checked<BR>> their<BR>> > IBD numbers, only their =
most=20
recent earnings reports, outlooks,<BR>valuations<BR>> > and=20
charts:<BR>> ><BR>> > 'Real' prices:<BR>> =
><BR>> >=20
EXAC<BR>> > GLYN<BR>> > GRMN<BR>> > LABS<BR>> =
>=20
RMCI<BR>> > SRT<BR>> ><BR>> > 'Almost' =
prices:<BR>>=20
> ALU<BR>> > ANFI<BR>> > APFC<BR>> > =
FBAY<BR>> >=20
FSTW<BR>> > ISIG<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > 'Too =
low'=20
prices:<BR>> > CTIB<BR>> > CVU<BR>> > SMAN<BR>> =
>=20
TWH<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > If you want to get a feel =
for how=20
the market is rewarding microcaps that<BR>> > suddenly start =
to=20
perform, check out the monthly charts for CVU, CTIB<BR>and<BR>> =
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Ian<BR>>=20
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