Re: [CANSLIM] Law Suits (was ACRT or MXT?)


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Law Suits (was ACRT or MXT?)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:15:29 -0500

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Hi Norm,

I don't know that there's a pat answer to your question. For example, I =
owned shares in a local company, PVSW, quite some years ago. The stock =
price was doing just grand and then went into a climax run at some =
point. CANSLIM rules had me out, which didn't make me all that happy, =
because I rather enjoyed asking tough questions at the shareholder's =
meetings. But the truth of the matter was, there was trouble afoot that =
was evident in the fundamentals and business strategy even before the =
stock technically took a dive. The stock dropped from about 35 to zip in =
short order, followed by a slew of class action law suits against the =
company. Frankly, they were spurious. The company had done nothing to =
mislead the investors, as the lawsuits charged, they just weren't doing =
a very good job minding the business. In that case, the lawsuits were =
meaningless. The problem is, it takes precious resources to defend =
against these lawsuits, so if nothing else, it's money out of the =
coffers until things are settled. Add that to a "poor perception" and =
you have a recipe for a stinky stock.

When reading the details of ACRT's lawsuit, it seems plausible that =
there's something fishy in the works.  If you take a look at the =
fundamental summary indicators, ACRT looks pretty grand, but WON always =
states that technicals will tell the story long before the "reason" =
shows up in the fundamentals and that's reason enough to stay away. All =
that in total is enough for me to throw something like this in the =
stinky fish pile. Is there a probability it'll all work out and the =
stock will climb back up? Yes. Is the probability that it'll work out =
higher than for a stock with no red flags, better RS and equivalent =
fundamental numbers? No.

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Norman=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Law Suits (was ACRT or MXT?)


  Katherine,

  shed some light on that point for me.  I have seen many companies the
  subject of law suits in the past for exactly this type of thing:  =
making
  misleading or false statements during specific time periods, usually =
just
  before the stock price tanks.  It seems that this happened often after =
March
  2000.  How can one tell if a law suit is significant/legitimate or =
just
  disgruntled stock holders?  Is it significant just because the legal =
papers
  have been filed?  And, does that trouble extend until the legal action =
is
  dismissed?

  norm

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
  To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
  Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ACRT or MXT?


  Hi James & Tom,

  Not to mention things like this in the significant developments raise =
enough
  red flags to stay away from something like ACRT:

  =
http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI/news.asp?target=3Dstocks%2Fcompanyinform=
ation
  %2Fnews&Ticker=3DACRT&TEXT=3DCMTX:20020412:102u4338

  I'm with Tom.....just get in the habit of ignoring stocks with an =
RS<60 and
  don't be tempted to bottom fish. Go to Investors.com and read articles =
on
  Fallen Angels and Falling Knives to get the gist.

  Katherine
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Tom Worley
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 4:53 PM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ACRT or MXT?


    H James,

    RS of 30 would keep ACRT off my list
    RS of 18 would also block MCSI
    RS of 9 on NYFX, goodbye
    RS of 14 on MXT - sorry, none would go beyond a first glance for me

    all have recent, and substantial, overhead due to the recent price
  declines.
    They will be fighting resistance all the way back up.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "James Wang" <jamesjw1@hotmail.com>
    To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
    Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:29 PM
    Subject: [CANSLIM] ACRT or MXT?




    Hi, Just to learn recognizing potential winning
    stocks, by their both fundamantals and technical
    analysis.  I recently did some research on the following
    stocks, and find they could be great candidates for
    longs.  What do you think:

    ACRT: steady earings, low PE and low PEG, high short ratio.

    MCSI: good earings, good values.

    NYFX: should be great with economy's recovery.

    MXT: great potential with recovery, over 80% short in floats.  Great
  values.

    James

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<DIV>Hi Norm,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I don't know that there's a pat answer to your question. For =
example, I=20
owned shares in a local company, PVSW, quite some years ago. The stock =
price was=20
doing just grand and then went into a climax run at some point. CANSLIM =
rules=20
had me out, which didn't make me all that happy, because I rather =
enjoyed asking=20
tough questions at the shareholder's meetings. But the truth of the =
matter was,=20
there was trouble afoot that was evident in the fundamentals and =
business=20
strategy even before the stock technically took a dive. The stock =
dropped from=20
about 35 to&nbsp;zip in short order, followed by a&nbsp;slew of class =
action law=20
suits against the company. Frankly, they were spurious. The company had =
done=20
nothing to mislead the investors, as the lawsuits charged, they just =
weren't=20
doing a very good job minding the business. In that case, the lawsuits =
were=20
meaningless. The problem is, it takes precious resources to defend =
against these=20
lawsuits, so if nothing else, it's money out of the coffers until things =
are=20
settled. Add that to a "poor perception" and you have a recipe for a =
stinky=20
stock.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>When reading the details of ACRT's lawsuit, it seems plausible that =
there's=20
something fishy in the works.&nbsp; If you take a look at the =
fundamental=20
summary indicators, ACRT looks pretty grand, but WON always states that=20
technicals will tell the story long before the "reason" shows up in the=20
fundamentals and that's reason enough to stay away. All that in total is =
enough=20
for me to throw something like this in the stinky fish pile. Is there a=20
probability it'll all work out and the stock will climb back up? Yes. Is =
the=20
probability that it'll work out higher than for a stock with no red =
flags,=20
better RS and equivalent fundamental numbers? No.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dtheboyd@tisd.net =
href=3D"mailto:theboyd@tisd.net">Norman</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 27, 2002 5:53 =
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Law =
Suits (was=20
  ACRT or MXT?)</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Katherine,<BR><BR>shed some light on that point for =
me.&nbsp; I=20
  have seen many companies the<BR>subject of law suits in the past for =
exactly=20
  this type of thing:&nbsp; making<BR>misleading or false statements =
during=20
  specific time periods, usually just<BR>before the stock price =
tanks.&nbsp; It=20
  seems that this happened often after March<BR>2000.&nbsp; How can one =
tell if=20
  a law suit is significant/legitimate or just<BR>disgruntled stock=20
  holders?&nbsp; Is it significant just because the legal papers<BR>have =
been=20
  filed?&nbsp; And, does that trouble extend until the legal action=20
  is<BR>dismissed?<BR><BR>norm<BR><BR>----- Original Message =
- -----<BR>From:=20
  "Katherine Malm" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">kmalm@earthlink.net</A>&gt;<BR>To: =
&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
  Monday, May 27, 2002 5:14 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] ACRT or=20
  MXT?<BR><BR><BR>Hi James &amp; Tom,<BR><BR>Not to mention things like =
this in=20
  the significant developments raise enough<BR>red flags to stay away =
from=20
  something like ACRT:<BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI/news.asp?target=3Dstocks%2Fcompa=
nyinformation">http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI/news.asp?target=3Dstocks%=
2Fcompanyinformation</A><BR>%2Fnews&amp;Ticker=3DACRT&amp;TEXT=3DCMTX:200=
20412:102u4338<BR><BR>I'm=20
  with Tom.....just get in the habit of ignoring stocks with an RS&lt;60 =

  and<BR>don't be tempted to bottom fish. Go to Investors.com and read =
articles=20
  on<BR>Fallen Angels and Falling Knives to get the=20
  gist.<BR><BR>Katherine<BR>&nbsp; ----- Original Message =
- -----<BR>&nbsp; From:=20
  Tom Worley<BR>&nbsp; To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&nbsp;=20
  Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 4:53 PM<BR>&nbsp; Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] =
ACRT or=20
  MXT?<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; H James,<BR><BR>&nbsp; RS of 30 would keep ACRT =
off my=20
  list<BR>&nbsp; RS of 18 would also block MCSI<BR>&nbsp; RS of 9 on =
NYFX,=20
  goodbye<BR>&nbsp; RS of 14 on MXT - sorry, none would go beyond a =
first glance=20
  for me<BR><BR>&nbsp; all have recent, and substantial, overhead due to =
the=20
  recent price<BR>declines.<BR>&nbsp; They will be fighting resistance =
all the=20
  way back up.<BR><BR>&nbsp; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&nbsp; =
From: "James=20
  Wang" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:jamesjw1@hotmail.com">jamesjw1@hotmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>&nbs=
p; To:=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
  Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:29 PM<BR>&nbsp; Subject: [CANSLIM] ACRT =
or=20
  MXT?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; Hi, Just to learn recognizing potential =

  winning<BR>&nbsp; stocks, by their both fundamantals and =
technical<BR>&nbsp;=20
  analysis.&nbsp; I recently did some research on the =
following<BR>&nbsp;=20
  stocks, and find they could be great candidates for<BR>&nbsp; =
longs.&nbsp;=20
  What do you think:<BR><BR>&nbsp; ACRT: steady earings, low PE and low =
PEG,=20
  high short ratio.<BR><BR>&nbsp; MCSI: good earings, good =
values.<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
  NYFX: should be great with economy's recovery.<BR><BR>&nbsp; MXT: =
great=20
  potential with recovery, over 80% short in floats.&nbsp;=20
  Great<BR>values.<BR><BR>&nbsp; James<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
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