[CANSLIM] RE: NFI discrepancy


From: "Duke Miller" <dukemill@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: [CANSLIM] RE: NFI discrepancy
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:02:58 -0400

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(Note to cc:  Mike and I are having an exchange about data reliability.
Anyone care to chime in, feel free, please.)
 
Mike:
 
I thought moneycentral's was better, 'cause that's where I got the 25%
figure:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/profile.asp?Symbol=nfi
(scroll down to "Statistics")
 
Go figure!?!?  Same category, same source, totally different
information.
 
I double-checked my data with Thomson Wealth Management, a research
source through my broker, Harris Direct.  They say 25.4% held by 18
Institutions.  Quicken, too, shows 18 institutions at 25.4%.  
 
Duke
 
 

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mike Gibbons [mailto:mikegibbons@proactech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:35 PM
To: Duke Miller
Subject: RE: NFI discrepancy


Hi Duke,
 
Beats me what the right answer is. Here's the link to Multex's
Institutional Ownership page for NFI
http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI/HoldersReport.asp?target=%2Fstocks%2Fco
mpanyinformation%2Finstit%5Fowner
<http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI/HoldersReport.asp?target=%2Fstocks%2Fc
ompanyinformation%2Finstit%5Fowner&Ticker=NFI> &Ticker=NFI
 
When I get the new site finished, maybe I'll have some time to research
a more reliable source of information. My long term goal is to get
enough subscribers to be be able to afford an institutional quality
database, in the meantime, I have to use free sources such as Multex.
 
Do you think moneycentral's data is any better? I just looked NFI up
there and got the same answer
 
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.asp?Symb
ol=nfi
 
Aloha,
 
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com <http://www.proactech.com/> 

- -----Original Message-----
From: Duke Miller [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:04 AM
To: 'Mike Gibbons'
Subject: NFI discrepancy


Mike:
 
In research NFI, I got a conflict of data on Institutional Ownership.
Three or four resources show 24 to 25%, yet the Evaluator shows 68%?
 
Duke
 
Everybody should believe in something - I believe I'll have another
glass of great wine!

 


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT face=3DArial>(Note to =
cc:&nbsp; Mike and=20
I are having an exchange about data reliability.&nbsp; Anyone care to =
chime in,=20
feel free, please.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Mike:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT face=3DArial>I thought =
moneycentral's=20
was better, 'cause that's where I got the&nbsp;25% figure: <A=20
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/profile.asp?Symbol=3D=
nfi">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/profile.asp?Symbol=3Dn=
fi</A>&nbsp;(scroll=20
down to "Statistics")</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT face=3DArial>Go =
figure!?!?&nbsp; Same=20
category, same source, totally different =
information.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT face=3DArial>I =
double-checked my data=20
with Thomson Wealth Management, a research source through my broker, =
Harris=20
Direct.&nbsp; They say 25.4% held by 18 Institutions.&nbsp; Quicken, =
too, shows=20
18 institutions at 25.4%.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D656075217-29052002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mike =
Gibbons=20
  [mailto:mikegibbons@proactech.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 29, =
2002=20
  1:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Duke Miller<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: NFI=20
  discrepancy<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hi=20
  Duke,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Beats me what the right answer is. Here's the link to =
Multex's=20
  Institutional Ownership page for NFI</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://yahoo.marketguide.com/MGI/HoldersReport.asp?target=3D%2Fst=
ocks%2Fcompanyinformation%2Finstit%5Fowner&amp;Ticker=3DNFI">http://yahoo=
.marketguide.com/MGI/HoldersReport.asp?target=3D%2Fstocks%2Fcompanyinform=
ation%2Finstit%5Fowner&amp;Ticker=3DNFI</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>When=20
  I get the new site finished, maybe I'll have some time to research a =
more=20
  reliable source of information. My long term goal is to get enough =
subscribers=20
  to be be able to afford an institutional quality database, in the =
meantime, I=20
  have to use free sources such as Multex.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Do=20
  you think moneycentral's data is any better?</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I just looked NFI up there and got the same=20
  answer</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D180492117-29052002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ownership.a=
sp?Symbol=3Dnfi">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/ownership/ow=
nership.asp?Symbol=3Dnfi</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aloha,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Gibbons<BR>Proactive =
Technologies,=20
  LLC</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.proactech.com/">http://www.proactech.com</A></FONT></D=
IV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Duke Miller=20
    [mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 29, =
2002=20
    4:04 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Mike Gibbons'<BR><B>Subject:</B> NFI=20
    discrepancy<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D156350214-29052002><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>Mike:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D156350214-29052002><FONT=20
    face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D156350214-29052002><FONT face=3DArial>In research =
NFI, I got=20
    a conflict of data on Institutional Ownership.&nbsp; Three or four =
resources=20
    show 24 to 25%, yet the Evaluator shows 68%?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D156350214-29052002><FONT=20
    face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D156350214-29052002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2>
    <P>Everybody should believe in something - I believe I'll have =
another glass=20
    of great wine!</P></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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