Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History

From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:24:04 -0400
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Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20

DanF
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Hill, Ernie=20
  To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


  I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen =
two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" =
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made =
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market =
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.

  =20

  They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.

  =20

  Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either =
interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods =
and how the market related to the economy during those time periods.

  =20

  However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next =
15 years!

  =20

  E=20

  =20

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History

  =20

  Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20

  =20

  Kelly Short

  =20

  Business Development Manager

  Neoris, Inc.

  (817) 731-0995

  mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com

  http://www.neoris.com

  =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% =
market growth=20
for years to come?? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DanF</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com =
href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill,=20
  Ernie</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 13, 2002 =
12:59=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M" =
History</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I don't have a resource to contribute at =
this time=20
  but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =

  "experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these=20
  men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major =
bull=20
  market that ended in 2000 began in 1983.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">They both expect the next 17.6 years to be =
lean by=20
  comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has =
performed=20
  all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle =
and how=20
  the market was affected by it despite how the economy was=20
  performing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Unfortunately I did not have my full =
attention focused=20
  on either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific =
time=20
  periods and how the market related to the economy during those time=20
  periods.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">However, what I did hear did not sound very=20
  encouraging for the next 15 years!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">E <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Kelly =
Short=20
  [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] <BR>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 =
10:46=20
  AM<BR>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
  History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused =
my=20
  attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 =
years to=20
  try to better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a =
couple=20
  of resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would=20
  appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such=20
  purposes. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kelly Short<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(817) 731-0995<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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