RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


From: "Hill, Ernie" <Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:13:25 -0500

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I believe what he said was single digit growth.
 
E
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
 
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come?? 
 
DanF
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From: Hill, Ernie <mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com>  
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' <mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'>  
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
 
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference
to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that ended in
2000 began in 1983.
 
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet
even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way back to
1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the market was
affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
 
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either interview
so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods and how the
market related to the economy during those time periods.
 
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
years!
 
E 
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
 
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term
on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better understand
what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources that cover
this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any known quality
resources the group has used in the past for such purposes. 
 
Kelly Short
 
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
 
 
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CANSLIM]
&quot;M&quot; History</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Didn't Buffer also predict jus=
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market growth for years to come?? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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[CANSLIM] &quot;M&quot; History<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I don't have a resource to contribute at this ti=
me
but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an
&quot;experienced&quot; floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Bot=
h of
these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major =
bull
market that ended in 2000 began in 1983.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
ourier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean =
by
comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has perfor=
med
all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and h=
ow
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
ourier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Unfortunately I did not have my full attention f=
ocused
on either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time
periods and how the market related to the economy during those time periods=
.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
ourier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>However, what I did hear did not sound very
encouraging for the next 15 years!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>E <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] <br>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM<br>
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<br>
Subject: [CANSLIM] &quot;M&quot; History<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
ourier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Since &quot;M&quot; is not being nice- I have fo=
cused
my attention in the short-term on &quot;M's&quot; history over the past 100=
 -
150 years to try to better understand what makes this machine tick. I have
found a couple of resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. =
but
would appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past=
 for
such purposes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"C=
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