Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History

From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:01:07 -0400
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Ummm, 5% is a single digit
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Hill, Ernie=20
  To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


  I believe what he said was single digit growth.

  =20

  E

  =20

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History

  =20

  Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20

  =20

  DanF

    ----- Original Message -----=20

    From: Hill, Ernie=20

    To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20

    Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM

    Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History

    =20

    I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen =
two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" =
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made =
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market =
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.

    =20

    They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.

    =20

    Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either =
interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods =
and how the market related to the economy during those time periods.

    =20

    However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next =
15 years!

    =20

    E=20

    =20

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
    Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History

    =20

    Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20

    =20

    Kelly Short

    =20

    Business Development Manager

    Neoris, Inc.

    (817) 731-0995

    mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com

    http://www.neoris.com

    =20

    =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ummm, 5% is a single digit</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com =
href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill,=20
  Ernie</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 13, 2002 =
10:13=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M" =
History</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I believe =
what he=20
  said was single digit growth.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
Dan Forant=20
  [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date =
Year=3D"2002"=20
  Day=3D"13" Month=3D"6"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Thursday, June 13,=20
  2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
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</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
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  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
  History</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Didn't Buffer also =
predict just 5%=20
  market growth for years to come?? </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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    face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
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    face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
    title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com =
href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill,=20
    Ernie</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
    title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
    <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year=3D"2002" Day=3D"13" Month=3D"6"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Thursday, June 13,=20
    2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
    Minute=3D"59" Hour=3D"12"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">12:59=20
    PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> RE:=20
    [CANSLIM] "M" History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
    size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I don't have a resource to =
contribute=20
    at this time but, I have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with =
Art=20
    Cashin (an "experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren =
Buffet.=20
    Both of these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out =
that the=20
    major bull market that ended in 2000 began in=20
    1983.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">They both expect the next =
17.6 years to=20
    be lean by comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the =
market=20
    has performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the =
influence of=20
    this cycle and how the market was affected by it despite how the =
economy was=20
    performing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Unfortunately I did not =
have my full=20
    attention focused on either interview so I missed much of what was =
said=20
    about specific time periods and how the market related to the =
economy during=20
    those time periods.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">However, what I did hear =
did not sound=20
    very encouraging for the next 15 years!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">E =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original =
Message-----<BR>From:=20
    Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] <BR>Sent: Thursday, June =
13,=20
    2002 10:46 AM<BR>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>Subject: =
[CANSLIM] "M"=20
    History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Since "M" is not being =
nice- I have=20
    focused my attention in the short-term on "M's" history over the =
past 100 -=20
    150 years to try to better understand what makes this machine tick. =
I have=20
    found a couple of resources that cover this topic, provide =
timelines, etc.=20
    but would appreciate any known quality resources the group has used =
in the=20
    past for such purposes. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kelly=20
Short<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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