Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History


From: "Winston Little" <wlittle1@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:31:46 -0400

Next Article (by Date): RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History dave.bigham@us.abb.com
Previous Article (by Date): RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Next in Thread: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History dave.bigham@us.abb.com
Articles sorted by: [Date] [Author] [Subject]


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

- ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C21397.10BB6060
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kelly:
I believe that  may also satisfy the single digit expectation.

If Fanus and Charlie decide to "duke it out" we should ask Duke to be =
the referee.

Market is down, TYC and MSFT are up!


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kelly Short=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


  Group,

  When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no =
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to =
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was =
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus =
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever =
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like =
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far =
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed =
single digits- but how about 0%?

  Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by 9:00am. =
My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just =
go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!

  Kelly
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA] =
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
    Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
    To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
    Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


    Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
      Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History


      Ummm, 5% is a single digit
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Hill, Ernie=20
        To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
        Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
        Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


        I believe what he said was single digit growth.

        =20

        E

        =20

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]=20
        Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History

        =20

        Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to =
come??=20

        =20

        DanF

          ----- Original Message -----=20

          From: Hill, Ernie=20

          To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20

          Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM

          Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History

          =20

          I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have =
seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" =
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made =
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market =
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.

          =20

          They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. =
Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all =
the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and =
how the market was affected by it despite how the economy was =
performing.

          =20

          Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on =
either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time =
periods and how the market related to the economy during those time =
periods.

          =20

          However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for =
the next 15 years!

          =20

          E=20

          =20

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
          Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
          To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
          Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History

          =20

          Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in =
the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20

          =20

          Kelly Short

          =20

          Business Development Manager

          Neoris, Inc.

          (817) 731-0995

          mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com

          http://www.neoris.com

          =20

          =20

          -

          -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"

          -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or

          -"unsubscribe canslim".  Do not use quotes in your email.



          =
******************************************************************
          This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso=20
          Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the=20
          use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.=20
          If you have received this email in error please notify the=20
          sender.
          =
******************************************************************



        =
******************************************************************
        This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso=20
        Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the=20
        use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.=20
        If you have received this email in error please notify the=20
        sender.
        =
******************************************************************


- -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
- ---
    For your protection, this e-mail message has been scanned for =
viruses.=20
    Visit us at http://www.neoris.com/=20


- -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
- ---



- ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C21397.10BB6060
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3DWord.Document name=3DProgId>
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR>
<META content=3D"Microsoft Word 10" name=3DOriginator><LINK=20
href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C2131F.1CAED910" =
rel=3DFile-List><o:SmartTagType=20
namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"=20
name=3D"time"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType=20
namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"=20
name=3D"date"></o:SmartTagType><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:OfficeDocumentSettings>
  <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/>
 </o:OfficeDocumentSettings>
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <w:WordDocument>
  <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState>
  <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind>
  <w:EnvelopeVis/>
  <w:Compatibility>
   <w:BreakWrappedTables/>
   <w:SnapToGridInCell/>
   <w:WrapTextWithPunct/>
   <w:UseAsianBreakRules/>
  </w:Compatibility>
  <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel>
 </w:WordDocument>
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]>
<STYLE>st1\:* {
	BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui)
}
</STYLE>
<![endif]-->
<STYLE>@font-face {
	font-family: Tahoma;
}
@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 77.95pt 1.0in 77.95pt; =
mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; }
P.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; =
mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; =
mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
LI.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; =
mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; =
mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
DIV.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; =
mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; =
mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
A:link {
	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlink {
	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single
}
A:visited {
	COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {
	COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single
}
P.MsoPlainText {
	FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; =
mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
LI.MsoPlainText {
	FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; =
mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
DIV.MsoPlainText {
	FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; =
mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
CODE {
	FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; =
mso-ascii-font-family: "Courier New"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Courier =
New"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New"
}
SPAN.EmailStyle19 {
	COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; =
mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; =
mso-style-type: personal-reply; mso-style-noshow: yes; =
mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt
}
DIV.Section1 {
	page: Section1
}
</STYLE>
<!--[if gte mso 10]>
<style>
 /* Style Definitions */=20
 table.MsoNormalTable
	{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";
	mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;
	mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;
	mso-style-noshow:yes;
	mso-style-parent:"";
	mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
	mso-para-margin:0in;
	mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
	font-size:10.0pt;
	font-family:"Times New Roman";}
</style>
<![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
  <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
 </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD>
<BODY lang=3DEN-US style=3D"tab-interval: .5in" vLink=3Dpurple =
link=3Dblue=20
bgColor=3Dwhite>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Kelly:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I believe that&nbsp; may also satisfy the single =
digit=20
expectation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If Fanus and Charlie decide to "duke it out" we =
should ask=20
Duke to be the referee.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Market is down, TYC and MSFT are up!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dkelly.short@neoris.com =
href=3D"mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com">Kelly=20
  Short</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2002 =
10:00=20
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M" =
History</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Group,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>When=20
  I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information,=20
  but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no one wants to =
focus=20
  on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased to see that =
everyone in=20
  the group feels free to share their insights, resources, and =
conjectures.=20
  Thank you everyone for sending me links to online resources. Winston- =
your=20
  breakdown of the past century was extremely interesting- thank you for =
sharing=20
  it with the group. Fanus and Charley- you both bring up good points =
and if the=20
  two of you ever decide to duke it out in person please let me know in =
advance-=20
  I'd like to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- =
so far=20
  we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are =
indeed single=20
  digits- but how about 0%?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points =
by 9:00am.=20
  My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll =
just go=20
  download some pirated music. Have a great weekend=20
everyone!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Kelly</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cefaloni, John L =
Jr.=20
    [AMSTA-AR-WEA] [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Friday,=20
    June 14, 2002 7:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    'canslim@lists.xmission.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
    History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D400323712-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dan Forant=20
      [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, =
2002 8:01=20
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =

      [CANSLIM] "M" History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ummm, 5% is a single =
digit</FONT></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com =
href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill,=20
        Ernie</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 13, =
2002 10:13=20
        PM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
"M"=20
        History</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV class=3DSection1>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I =
believe what=20
        he said was single digit growth.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">E<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
        Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B> Dan=20
        Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:date=20
        Month=3D"6" Day=3D"13" Year=3D"2002"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Thursday, June =
13,=20
        2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
        Hour=3D"20" Minute=3D"24"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">8:24=20
        PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
"M"=20
        History</SPAN></FONT></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
        size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Didn't Buffer=20
        also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20
        </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
        size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">DanF</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; =
BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: =
5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; =
BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">-----=20
          Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
          <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
          face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
          <A title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com=20
          href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill, Ernie</A>=20
          <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
          face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
          <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
          <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
          face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
          </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Month=3D"6" Day=3D"13" =
Year=3D"2002"><FONT=20
          face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thursday, June =
13,=20
          2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =

          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
          Hour=3D"12" Minute=3D"59"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">12:59=20
          PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
          face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
          RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">I don't have a=20
          resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two =
interviews=20
          lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor =
trader) and=20
          the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made reference =
to a=20
          17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market that =
ended in=20
          2000 began in 1983.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">They both=20
          expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even=20
          went on to talk about how the market has performed all the way =
back to=20
          1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how the =
market=20
          was affected by it despite how the economy was=20
          performing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Unfortunately=20
          I did not have my full attention focused on either interview =
so I=20
          missed much of what was said about specific time periods and =
how the=20
          market related to the economy during those time=20
          periods.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">However, what=20
          I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15=20
          years!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">E=20
          <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">-----Original=20
          Message-----<BR>From: Kelly Short =
[mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
          <BR>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM<BR>To:=20
          canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
          History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Since "M" is=20
          not being nice- I have focused my attention in the short-term =
on "M's"=20
          history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better =
understand what=20
          makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of resources =
that cover=20
          this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would appreciate any =
known=20
          quality resources the group has used in the past for such =
purposes.=20
          <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Kelly=20
          Short<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Business=20
          Development Manager<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Neoris,=20
          Inc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">(817)=20
          731-0995<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">http://www.neoris.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">-To=20
          subscribe/unsubscribe, email=20
          "majordomo@xmission.com"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">-In the email=20
          body, write "subscribe canslim" =
or<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">-"unsubscribe=20
          canslim".<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Do =
not use=20
          quotes in your email.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
          size=3D3><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"><BR><BR><CODE><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
          style=3D"mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">*****************************************************************=
*</SPAN></FONT></CODE><BR><CODE><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
          style=3D"mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">This=20
          email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso=20
          </SPAN></FONT></CODE><BR><CODE><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"><SPAN=20
          style=3D"mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Corporation=20
          are confidential and intended solely for the=20
          </SPAN></FONT></CODE><BR><CODE><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"><SPAN=20
          style=3D"mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">use of=20
          the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.=20
          </SPAN></FONT></CODE><BR><CODE><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"><SPAN=20
          style=3D"mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">If you=20
          have received this email in error please notify the=20
          </SPAN></FONT></CODE><BR><CODE><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"><SPAN=20
          style=3D"mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">sender.</SPAN></FONT></CODE><BR><CODE><FONT=20
          face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
          style=3D"mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">*****************************************************************=
*<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></CODE></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><CO=
DE><FONT=20
        =
size=3D3><BR><BR>********************************************************=
**********<BR>This=20
        email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso =
<BR>Corporation=20
        are confidential and intended solely for the <BR>use of the =
individual=20
        or entity to whom they are addressed. <BR>If you have received =
this=20
        email in error please notify the=20
        =
<BR>sender.<BR>**********************************************************=
********<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></CODE>
    <HR>
    For your protection, this e-mail message has been scanned for =
viruses.=20
    <P>Visit us at <A =
href=3D"http://www.neoris.com/">http://www.neoris.com/</A>=20
    <HR>

    <P></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

- ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C21397.10BB6060--


- -
- -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com"
- -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or
- -"unsubscribe canslim".  Do not use quotes in your email.

Next Article (by Date): RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History dave.bigham@us.abb.com
Previous Article (by Date): RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
Next in Thread: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History dave.bigham@us.abb.com
Articles sorted by: [Date] [Author] [Subject]


Go to Jeff Salisbury LWGate Home Page.