RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


From: "Duke Miller" <dukemill@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:29:56 -0400

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Been in the Keys and just back today with 78 Canslim messages to peruse.
You guys must really be bored!  
 
Anyway, really enjoying this topic.  Can't resist interjecting here.
The 0% along with the negative single digits (as well as negative double
digits) cannot be eliminated.  Why?  What if "it" was -20% to start and
is now -11%?  Isn't that a single digit growth of 9%?
 
Yawn.
 
Duke
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:09 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History


not in context, because "growth" was specified. That requirement also
eliminates 0%.
 
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr.  <mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil>
[AMSTA-AR-WEA] 
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History

Kelly,
 
I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single
digit".
 
Cheers,
John C.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


Group,
 
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights,
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed
single digits- but how about 0%?
 
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by 9:00am.
My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just
go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
 
Kelly
- -----Original Message-----
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History


Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History


Ummm, 5% is a single digit
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: Hill, Ernie <mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com>  
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History

I believe what he said was single digit growth.
 
E
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
 
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to come?? 
 
DanF
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: Hill, Ernie <mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com>  
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com' 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
 
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an "experienced" floor
trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of these men made
reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the major bull market
that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
 
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr.
buffet even went on to talk about how the market has performed all the
way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how
the market was affected by it despite how the economy was performing.
 
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on either
interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time periods
and how the market related to the economy during those time periods.
 
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next 15
years!
 
E 
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
 
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in the
short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past
for such purposes. 
 
Kelly Short
 
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
 
 
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT face=3DArial>Been in the =
Keys and just=20
back today with 78 Canslim messages to peruse.&nbsp; You guys must =
really be=20
bored!&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT face=3DArial>Anyway, really =
enjoying=20
this topic.&nbsp; Can't resist interjecting here.&nbsp; The 0% along =
with the=20
negative single digits (as well as negative double digits) cannot be=20
eliminated.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; What if "it" was -20% to start and is now=20
- -11%?&nbsp; Isn't that a single digit growth of 9%?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Yawn.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20
  <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom Worley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2002 =
11:09=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
  "M" History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>not in context, because "growth" was =
specified. That=20
  requirement also eliminates 0%.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Djohn.cefaloni@us.army.mil=20
  href=3D"mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil">Cefaloni, John L Jr.=20
  [AMSTA-AR-WEA]</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2002 10:02 AM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Kelly,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single=20
  digit".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>John=20
  C.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Kelly Short=20
    [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, =
2002 10:00=20
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
    RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Group,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was =
simply seeking=20
    information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe =
no one=20
    wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see=20
    that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources,=20
    and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to online=20
    resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was extremely =

    interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus and =
Charley- you=20
    both bring up good points and if the two of you ever decide to duke =
it out=20
    in person please let me know in advance- I'd like to put some money =
on=20
    squares. As for the single digit debate- so far we've established =
that 1%,=20
    2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed single digits- but how =
about=20
    0%?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points =
by=20
    9:00am. My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I =
think I'll=20
    just go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend=20
    everyone!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Kelly</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cefaloni, John =
L Jr.=20
      [AMSTA-AR-WEA] [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Friday,=20
      June 14, 2002 7:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
      'canslim@lists.xmission.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
      History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D400323712-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dan Forant=20
        [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, =
2002=20
        8:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
        [CANSLIM] "M" History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ummm, 5% is a single =
digit</FONT></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          <A title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com=20
          href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill, Ernie</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
          </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June =
13, 2002=20
          10:13 PM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
"M"=20
          History</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV class=3DSection1>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I =
believe=20
          what he said was single digit =
growth.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">E<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
          size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
          Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
          Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:date=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: =
url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"=20
          Month=3D"6" Day=3D"13" Year=3D"2002"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Thursday, June =
13,=20
          2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
          Hour=3D"20" Minute=3D"24"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">8:24=20
          PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
"M"=20
          History</SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Didn't Buffer=20
          also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20
          </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
          face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
          size=3D2><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">DanF</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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            size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
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            Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
            <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
            style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
            size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
            face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
            <A title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com=20
            href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill, Ernie</A>=20
            <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
            size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
            face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
            <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
            <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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            <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
            size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
            face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
            </SPAN></FONT><st1:date=20
            style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: =
url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"=20
            Month=3D"6" Day=3D"13" Year=3D"2002"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thursday, June =
13,=20
            2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
            Hour=3D"12" Minute=3D"59"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">12:59=20
            PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =

            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
            size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
            face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
            RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">I don't have=20
            a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two=20
            interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =
"experienced"=20
            floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these men=20
            made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the =
major=20
            bull market that ended in 2000 began in=20
            1983.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">They both=20
            expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even=20
            went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back=20
            to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
the=20
            market was affected by it despite how the economy was=20
            performing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Unfortunately I did not have my =
full=20
            attention focused on either interview so I missed much of =
what was=20
            said about specific time periods and how the market related =
to the=20
            economy during those time =
periods.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">However,=20
            what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next =
15=20
            years!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">E=20
            <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original =
Message-----<BR>From: Kelly=20
            Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] <BR>Sent: Thursday, =
June 13,=20
            2002 10:46 AM<BR>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>Subject:=20
            [CANSLIM] "M" History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Since "M" is=20
            not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on=20
            "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better =

            understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a =
couple of=20
            resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but =
would=20
            appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in =
the=20
            past for such purposes. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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            Short<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
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            <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
            face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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