Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History


From: Harvey Brion <hbrion@ieee.org>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:52:07 -0700

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Is 9.99% also single digit?  (You're right, Duke, we've been REALLY
bored.)

Duke Miller wrote:

> Been in the Keys and just back today with 78 Canslim messages to
> peruse.  You guys must really be bored! Anyway, really enjoying this
> topic.  Can't resist interjecting here.  The 0% along with the
> negative single digits (as well as negative double digits) cannot be
> eliminated.  Why?  What if "it" was -20% to start and is now -11%?
> Isn't that a single digit growth of 9%?Yawn.Duke
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom
>      Worley
>      Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:09 PM
>      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>
>      not in context, because "growth" was specified. That
>      requirement also eliminates 0%.
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]
>      To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002
>      10:02 AMSubject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>       Kelly,I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be
>      considered "single digit".Cheers,John C.
>
>           -----Original Message-----
>           From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
>           Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
>           To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>           Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>
>           Group,When I posed the "M" History question
>           yesterday I was simply seeking information, but
>           apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe
>           no one wants to focus on the daily market
>           movements right now) I am pleased to see that
>           everyone in the group feels free to share their
>           insights, resources, and conjectures. Thank you
>           everyone for sending me links to online resources.
>           Winston- your breakdown of the past century was
>           extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it
>           with the group. Fanus and Charley- you both bring
>           up good points and if the two of you ever decide
>           to duke it out in person please let me know in
>           advance- I'd like to put some money on squares. As
>           for the single digit debate- so far we've
>           established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8%
>           and 9% are indeed single digits- but how about
>           0%?Well- it's Friday and the market is already
>           down 172 points by 9:00am. My watch portfolio has
>           checked out and left for Vegas. I think I'll just
>           go download some pirated music. Have a great
>           weekend everyone!Kelly
>
>                -----Original Message-----
>                From: Cefaloni, John L Jr.
>                [AMSTA-AR-WEA]
>                [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
>                Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
>                To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
>                Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
>
>                Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8%
>                and 9%.
>
>                     -----Original Message-----
>                     From: Dan Forant
>                     [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
>
>                     Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002
>                     8:01 AM
>                     To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>
>                     Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M"
>                     History
>
>                     Ummm, 5% is a single digit
>
>                          ----- Original
>                          Message -----
>                          From: Hill, Ernie
>                          To:
>                          'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
>                          Sent: Thursday, June
>                          13, 2002 10:13 PM
>                          Subject: RE:
>                          [CANSLIM] "M"
>                          History
>
>                          I believe what he
>                          said was single
>                          digit growth.
>
>                          E
>
>                          -----Original
>                          Message-----
>                          From: Dan Forant
>                          [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
>
>                          Sent:Thursday, June
>                          13, 20028:24 PM
>                          To:
>                          canslim@lists.xmission.com
>
>                          Subject: Re:
>                          [CANSLIM] "M"
>                          History
>
>                          Didn't Buffer also
>                          predict just 5%
>                          market growth for
>                          years to come??
>                          DanF
>
>                               -----
>                               Original
>                               Message
>                               -----
>                               From:
>                               Hill,
>                               Ernie
>                               To:
>                               'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
>                               Sent:Thursday,
>                               June 13,
>                               200212:59
>                               PM
>                               Subject:
>                               RE:
>                               [CANSLIM]
>                               "M"
>                               History
>                               I don't
>                               have a
>                               resource
>                               to
>                               contribute
>                               at this
>                               time but,
>                               I have
>                               seen two
>                               interviews
>                               lately on
>                               CNBC one
>                               with Art
>                               Cashin (an
>                               "experienced"
>                               floor
>                               trader)
>                               and the
>                               other with
>                               Warren
>                               Buffet.
>                               Both of
>                               these men
>                               made
>                               reference
>                               to a 17.6
>                               year cycle
>                               and point
>                               out that
>                               the major
>                               bull
>                               market
>                               that ended
>                               in 2000
>                               began in
>                               1983.
>
>                               They both
>                               expect the
>                               next 17.6
>                               years to
>                               be lean by
>                               comparison.
>                               Mr. buffet
>                               even went
>                               on to talk
>                               about how
>                               the market
>                               has
>                               performed
>                               all the
>                               way back
>                               to 1929,
>                               and
>                               pointed
>                               out the
>                               influence
>                               of this
>                               cycle and
>                               how the
>                               market was
>                               affected
>                               by it
>                               despite
>                               how the
>                               economy
>                               was
>                               performing.
>
>                               Unfortunately
>                               I did not
>                               have my
>                               full
>                               attention
>                               focused on
>                               either
>                               interview
>                               so I
>                               missed
>                               much of
>                               what was
>                               said about
>                               specific
>                               time
>                               periods
>                               and how
>                               the market
>                               related to
>                               the
>                               economy
>                               during
>                               those time
>                               periods.
>
>                               However,
>                               what I did
>                               hear did
>                               not sound
>                               very
>                               encouraging
>                               for the
>                               next 15
>                               years!
>
>                               E
>
>
>                               ----Original
>                               Message-----
>
>                               From:
>                               Kelly
>                               Short
>                               [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
>
>                               Sent:
>                               Thursday,
>                               June 13,
>                               2002 10:46
>                               AM
>                               To:
>                               canslim@lists.xmission.com
>
>                               Subject:
>                               [CANSLIM]
>                               "M"
>                               History
>
>                               Since "M"
>                               is not
>                               being
>                               nice- I
>                               have
>                               focused my
>                               attention
>                               in the
>                               short-term
>                               on "M's"
>                               history
>                               over the
>                               past 100 -
>                               150 years
>                               to try to
>                               better
>                               understand
>                               what makes
>                               this
>                               machine
>                               tick. I
>                               have found
>                               a couple
>                               of
>                               resources
>                               that cover
>                               this
>                               topic,
>                               provide
>                               timelines,
>                               etc. but
>                               would
>                               appreciate
>                               any known
>                               quality
>                               resources
>                               the group
>                               has used
>                               in the
>                               past for
>                               such
>                               purposes.
>
>                               Kelly
>                               Short
>
>                               Business
>                               Development
>                               Manager
>
>                               Neoris,
>                               Inc.
>
>                               (817)
>                               731-0995
>
>
>                               ailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
>
>                               http://www.neoris.com
>
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