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MessageSorry Duke, in my book that is only a decrease in the rate of =
loss, which I don't define as growth. For me, growth must be a positive =
number in absolute terms.
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke Miller=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Been in the Keys and just back today with 78 Canslim messages to peruse. =
You guys must really be bored! =20
Anyway, really enjoying this topic. Can't resist interjecting here. =
The 0% along with the negative single digits (as well as negative double =
digits) cannot be eliminated. Why? What if "it" was -20% to start and =
is now -11%? Isn't that a single digit growth of 9%?
Yawn.
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:09 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
not in context, because "growth" was specified. That requirement also =
eliminates 0%.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Kelly,
I also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single =
digit".
Cheers,
John C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:00 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Group,
When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was simply seeking =
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe no =
one wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources, and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to =
online resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was =
extremely interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus =
and Charley- you both bring up good points and if the two of you ever =
decide to duke it out in person please let me know in advance- I'd like =
to put some money on squares. As for the single digit debate- so far =
we've established that 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed =
single digits- but how about 0%?
Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points by =
9:00am. My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I think =
I'll just go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend everyone!
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA] =
[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:39 AM
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9%.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:01 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
Ummm, 5% is a single digit
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
I believe what he said was single digit growth.
=20
E
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Didn't Buffer also predict just 5% market growth for years to =
come??=20
=20
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Hill, Ernie=20
To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
I don't have a resource to contribute at this time but, I =
have seen two interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =
"experienced" floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these men made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the =
major bull market that ended in 2000 began in 1983.
=20
They both expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by =
comparison. Mr. buffet even went on to talk about how the market has =
performed all the way back to 1929, and pointed out the influence of =
this cycle and how the market was affected by it despite how the economy =
was performing.
=20
Unfortunately I did not have my full attention focused on =
either interview so I missed much of what was said about specific time =
periods and how the market related to the economy during those time =
periods.
=20
However, what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for =
the next 15 years!
=20
E=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:46 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] "M" History
=20
Since "M" is not being nice- I have focused my attention in =
the short-term on "M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to =
better understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a couple of =
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but would =
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in the past =
for such purposes.=20
=20
Kelly Short
=20
Business Development Manager
Neoris, Inc.
(817) 731-0995
mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com
http://www.neoris.com
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Sorry Duke, in my book that is only a decrease =
in the rate=20
of loss, which I don't define as growth. For me, growth must be a =
positive=20
number in absolute terms.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddukemill@tampabay.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">Duke=20
Miller</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT face=3DArial>Been in the =
Keys and just=20
back today with 78 Canslim messages to peruse. You guys must =
really be=20
bored! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT face=3DArial>Anyway, really =
enjoying=20
this topic. Can't resist interjecting here. The 0% along =
with the=20
negative single digits (as well as negative double digits) cannot be=20
eliminated. Why? What if "it" was -20% to start and is now=20
- -11%? Isn't that a single digit growth of 9%?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Yawn.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D765562522-18062002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]=20
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom Worley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2002 =
11:09=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[CANSLIM]=20
"M" History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>not in context, because "growth" was =
specified. That=20
requirement also eliminates 0%.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Djohn.cefaloni@us.army.mil=20
href=3D"mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil">Cefaloni, John L Jr.=20
[AMSTA-AR-WEA]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2002 10:02 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Kelly,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
also wondered whether -1% through -9% could be considered "single=20
digit".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D890190114-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>John=20
C.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Kelly Short=20
[mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, =
2002 10:00=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Group,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>When I posed the "M" History question yesterday I was =
simply seeking=20
information, but apparently I began a full raging debate. (Or maybe =
no one=20
wants to focus on the daily market movements right now) I am pleased =
to see=20
that everyone in the group feels free to share their insights, =
resources,=20
and conjectures. Thank you everyone for sending me links to online=20
resources. Winston- your breakdown of the past century was extremely =
interesting- thank you for sharing it with the group. Fanus and =
Charley- you=20
both bring up good points and if the two of you ever decide to duke =
it out=20
in person please let me know in advance- I'd like to put some money =
on=20
squares. As for the single digit debate- so far we've established =
that 1%,=20
2%, 3%, 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8% and 9% are indeed single digits- but how =
about=20
0%?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Well- it's Friday and the market is already down 172 points =
by=20
9:00am. My watch portfolio has checked out and left for Vegas. I =
think I'll=20
just go download some pirated music. Have a great weekend=20
everyone!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D856234713-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Kelly</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cefaloni, John =
L Jr.=20
[AMSTA-AR-WEA] [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Friday,=20
June 14, 2002 7:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
'canslim@lists.xmission.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] "M"=20
History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D400323712-14062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Uhhh, so are 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 8% and =
9%.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dan Forant=20
[mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, =
2002=20
8:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ummm, 5% is a single =
digit</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill, Ernie</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June =
13, 2002=20
10:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
"M"=20
History</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I =
believe=20
what he said was single digit =
growth.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">E<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:date=20
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Year=3D"2002" Day=3D"13" Month=3D"6"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Thursday, June =
13,=20
2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
Minute=3D"24" Hour=3D"20"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">8:24=20
PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
"M"=20
History</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Didn't Buffer=20
also predict just 5% market growth for years to come??=20
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">DanF</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">-----=20
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
<A title=3DErnie.Hill@ElPaso.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Ernie.Hill@ElPaso.com">Hill, Ernie</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
<A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
</SPAN></FONT><st1:date=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: =
url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"=20
Year=3D"2002" Day=3D"13" Month=3D"6"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thursday, June =
13,=20
2002</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> =
</SPAN></FONT><st1:time=20
Minute=3D"59" Hour=3D"12"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">12:59=20
PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=20
RE: [CANSLIM] "M" History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">I don't have=20
a resource to contribute at this time but, I have seen two=20
interviews lately on CNBC one with Art Cashin (an =
"experienced"=20
floor trader) and the other with Warren Buffet. Both of =
these men=20
made reference to a 17.6 year cycle and point out that the =
major=20
bull market that ended in 2000 began in=20
1983.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">They both=20
expect the next 17.6 years to be lean by comparison. Mr. =
buffet even=20
went on to talk about how the market has performed all the =
way back=20
to 1929, and pointed out the influence of this cycle and how =
the=20
market was affected by it despite how the economy was=20
performing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Unfortunately I did not have my =
full=20
attention focused on either interview so I missed much of =
what was=20
said about specific time periods and how the market related =
to the=20
economy during those time =
periods.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">However,=20
what I did hear did not sound very encouraging for the next =
15=20
years!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">E=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original =
Message-----<BR>From: Kelly=20
Short [mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com] <BR>Sent: Thursday, =
June 13,=20
2002 10:46 AM<BR>To: canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR>Subject:=20
[CANSLIM] "M" History<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Since "M" is=20
not being nice- I have focused my attention in the =
short-term on=20
"M's" history over the past 100 - 150 years to try to better =
understand what makes this machine tick. I have found a =
couple of=20
resources that cover this topic, provide timelines, etc. but =
would=20
appreciate any known quality resources the group has used in =
the=20
past for such purposes. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
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<P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
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Short<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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