Re: DVD's (was [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement)


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: DVD's (was [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:27:20 -0500

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For starters:

- -DVD distributors such as DISK, HDL etc
- -Retailers such as AMZN, BBY etc
- -Hardware---runs the gamut from gaming hardware (Nintendo, XBox, etc), =
to video chips to handle the increased graphics requirements, to -DVD =
players (Samsung, Matsushita), to chips (INTC and some specialty chip =
makers), to DVD drive makers, etc.
- -Software, such as NAVR and ROXI etc.
- -Hardware components distributors such as TECD, IM, Games Makers who =
will beef up games offereings given the extra content capabilities of =
DVD based games, etc.
- -etc
- -etc

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kelly Short=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:50 AM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement

  Katherine-

  I think you recapped the past three weeks worth of conversations- =
we're all bored! So let me pose this question to the group: DVD's. Who =
makes money off DVD's?=20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Katherine Malm [mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net]
    Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:40 AM
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement

    Hi Kelly,

    The '87 crash was considerably different....far more an event than a =
process as is the current Bear which is undoing the excesses of the late =
'90's. At that time, cocktail conversations rarely included talk of =
stocks, but on Black Monday...people who didn't even know what the stock =
market was all about were gathered around the TV at lunch time. In =
retrospect, the Fed's quick intervention and the adjustments to program =
trading guidelines made this a blip on the bull market screen, so the =
"throwing in the towel" talk was far more short-lived than now. Most =
folks investing these days know little of what creates value and =
perceived value in the stock market. Even fewer are students of market =
history. But I'd bet the same conversations could be heard in the 30's =
and the 60's. Sometimes the best way to *really* learn it is to live it.

    Besides, we're bored to tears..... :)) But I *am* enjoying the time =
off to pursue summer reading...throw away novels of little consequence, =
mindless fluff ....ah, what a pleasure!

    Katherine

    ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Kelly Short=20
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:25 AM
      Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement

      If I were new to this earth and had just learned what the US stock =
market was by reading the comments shared this morning post-Worldcom I'd =
think the stock market was going bye-bye. I'll admit- I'm still wet =
behind the ears when it comes to investing experience but I can't for a =
minute believe that the same types of comments weren't passed around =
(albeit pre-Internet, shiver) regarding the 1987 crash. Can anyone =
remember back that far? I am correct and memory short? Or this truly =
"new"? Sorry folks- I was in the sixth grade in 1987.

      Kelly

      P.S. - thanks for the "Wall Street" quotes- it's the most used DVD =
I own!

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]
      [mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]
      Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:18 AM
      To: 'canslim@lists.xmission.com'
      Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement

      At the risk of being corny, I thought I'd dig up some quotes from =
the movie
      "Wall Street" (because Hollywood tells us everything we need to =
know about
      life ;-)

      "The main thing about money, Bud, is that it makes you do things =
you don't
      want to do."

      "Stop going for the easy buck and start producing something with =
your life.
      Create, instead of living off the buying and selling of others."=20

      "Stick to the fundamentals.  That's how IBM and Hilton were =
built."

      "There are no shotcuts.  Quick-buck artists come and go with every =
bull
      market, but the steady players make it through the bear markets."

      "You're on a roll, kid.  Enjoy it while it lasts, becuase it never =
does."

      and, of course...

      "Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At =
that
      moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of =
the
      abyss."

      Of course, the movie is packed with many more "bullish" quotes, =
but those
      will have to wait for another day.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Winston Little [mailto:wlittle1@peoplepc.com]
      Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:33 AM
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement

      People in the rust belt are back in style.

      I believe the expression is "The meek shall inherit the earth".
      There is merit to the people who work and sweat for a living, =
instead of the
      glorified crooks of the past three years.
      Remember all those clowns forming companies (with NO EARNINGS) =
that had
      market capitalization greater than that of General Motors?

      Today:
      Lear LEI is up.They make car seats and interior parts.
      Delphi DPH guided up yesterday. They make electronic parts for =
cars (mostly
      GM).
      Visteon VC guided up this morning.They make car parts (mostly for =
Ford).
      P&G ( as Duke pointed out) is up. Soap, toothpaste and paper =
towels.
      Donnelly DON  (mirrors for cars) is to be bought out by Magna =
(they make car
      parts) at 38% premium.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Duke Miller" <dukemill@tampabay.rr.com>
      To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:07 AM
      Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement

      > Absolutely.
      >
      > P&G is up over $1 at the open this a.m.  Up 16% this year.  43% =
last two
      > years.  Soap, toothpaste, quality people.  All things you can =
count
      > (on).
      >
      > Duke
      >
      > (I do have a position in P&G)
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
      > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Winston =
Little
      > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:48 AM
      > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
      > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
      >
      >
      > There may be some merit to companies that make goods that I can =
see,
      > touch and count such as houses, cars, chemicals.
      >
      > There may also be some merit to companies that pay dividends, as =
the
      > crooks are less likely to borrow or steal funds to pay =
dividends.
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Dave Cameron" <dfcameron@yahoo.com>
      > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
      > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:33 AM
      > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
      >
      >
      > > Rocky (and all),
      > >
      > > Yeah... this is amazing.   As a professional statistician, the =
recent
      > > events show why I don't use classical statistical techniques =
in
      > > investing.   I sold all my individual holdings in November - =
haven't
      > > bought back in.   Still hold the mutual funds for long term, =
but
      > > continue to watch them dwindle.
      > >
      > > My line to people at work is that I'll be working until I'm =
80....
      > >
      > > Dave
      > >
      > > --- Rocky Sanghvi <rs@mylodestar.com> wrote:
      > > > I wish I could say that today coming blowoff will be the =
last one.
      > > > There are other skeletons in the closet.  More importantly =
the
      > > > impact of the
      > > > dropping dollar will be enormous in our highly leveraged =
financial
      > > > system.
      > > >
      > > > From ECON 101
      > > > Until now we were managing to balance our foreign deficits =
by inflow
      >
      > > > of cash from other countries into our markets.  The falling =
dollar
      > > > is an indication
      > > > that money is moving OUT of the country.  Watch out for the =
ripple
      > > > effects.
      > > >
      > > > Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq immediately and thereby =
create "a
      > > > demand" for
      > > > the the safety of the American dollar.  ;)   I guess I am =
cynical.
      > > > Today
      > > > the market lost me as an investor for a very long time.  I =
quit.
      > > >
      > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
      > > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of =
Winston Little
      > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:34 AM
      > > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
      > > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > The mantra of the clowns:
      > > > "I want it ALL"
      > > > "Give it to me NOW"
      > > > "It is MINE, I deserve it"
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: "Kent Norman" <kent_norman@yahoo.com>
      > > > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
      > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM
      > > > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > > The answer is:
      > > > >
      > > > > The same childish, short-sighted, immediate satisfaction =
that
      > > > blinds
      > > > > them to the possibility that there is a tomorrow... They =
run the
      > > > > business like they live their life. All today and no =
tomorrow.
      > > > >
      > > > > Kent Norman
      > > > >
      > > > > --- "Cefaloni, John L Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"
      > > > <john.cefaloni@us.army.mil>
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > Well said, Tom.  What is it that makes people do things =
for
      > > > temporary
      > > > > > gain
      > > > > > when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in =
the
      > > > future?
      > > > > >
      > > > > > I guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > > > From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
      > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 AM
      > > > > > To: CANSLIM
      > > > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > once again, Andersen strikes again, this time by signing =
off on
      > > > > > Worldcom hiding over $3 billion in expenses as capital
      > > > > > expenditures, and
      > > > thus
      > > > > > inflating cash flow. Restatement expected to take away =
last
      > > > five
      > > > > > quarters of
      > > > > > profits and turn them into losses.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Who gave this sanction to a deviation from GAAP =
(Generally
      > > > Accepted
      > > > > > Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear =
that
      > > > Enron
      > > > > > was only
      > > > > > the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, =
and a
      > > > host
      > > > > > of other
      > > > > > companies were not sufficient warning of major problems =
in
      > > > corporate
      > > > > > policy
      > > > > > and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name like =
Andersen
      > > > prostituted
      > > > > > to
      > > > > > selling its certification services for any price, but =
also
      > > > clear that
      > > > > > it
      > > > > > must disappear from corporate America. And until every =
major
      > > > company
      > > > > > audited
      > > > > > by Andersen undergoes a special review by the SEC on =
accounting
      > > > > > practices, I doubt anyone will believe that we have =
finally seen
      >
      > > > > > it all.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Tom Worley
      > > > > > stkguru@bellsouth.net
      > > > > > AIM: TexWorley
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
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      > > > > Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.
      > > > >
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<DIV>For starters:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>-DVD distributors such as DISK, HDL etc</DIV>
<DIV>-Retailers such as AMZN, BBY etc</DIV>
<DIV>-Hardware---runs the gamut from gaming hardware (Nintendo, XBox, =
etc), to=20
video chips to handle the increased graphics requirements, to -DVD =
players=20
(Samsung, Matsushita), to chips (INTC and some specialty chip makers), =
to DVD=20
drive makers, etc.</DIV>
<DIV>-Software, such as NAVR and ROXI etc.</DIV>
<DIV>-Hardware components distributors such as TECD, IM, Games Makers =
who will=20
beef up games offereings given the extra content capabilities of DVD =
based=20
games, etc.</DIV>
<DIV>-etc</DIV>
<DIV>-etc</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dkelly.short@neoris.com =
href=3D"mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com">Kelly=20
  Short</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 26, 2002 =
10:50=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM=20
  restatement</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D802075015-26062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Katherine-</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D802075015-26062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D802075015-26062002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  think you recapped the past three weeks worth of conversations- we're =
all=20
  bored! So let me pose this question to the group: DVD's. Who makes =
money off=20
  DVD's? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Katherine Malm=20
    [mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 26, =
2002 10:40=20
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
    Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>Hi Kelly,</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>The '87 crash was considerably different....far more an event =
than a=20
    process as is the current Bear which is undoing the excesses of the =
late=20
    '90's. At that time, cocktail conversations rarely included talk of =
stocks,=20
    but on Black Monday...people who didn't even know what the stock =
market was=20
    all about were gathered around the TV at lunch time. In retrospect, =
the=20
    Fed's quick intervention and the adjustments to program trading =
guidelines=20
    made this a blip on the bull market screen, so the "throwing in the =
towel"=20
    talk was far more short-lived than now. Most folks investing these =
days know=20
    little of what creates value and perceived value in the stock =
market. Even=20
    fewer are students of market history. But I'd bet the same =
conversations=20
    could be heard in the 30's and the 60's. Sometimes the best way to =
*really*=20
    learn it is to live it.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Besides, we're bored to tears..... :)) But I *am* enjoying the =
time off=20
    to pursue&nbsp;summer reading...throw away novels of little =
consequence,=20
    mindless fluff ....ah, what a pleasure!</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dkelly.short@neoris.com =
href=3D"mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com">Kelly=20
      Short</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 26, =
2002 10:25=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM =

      restatement</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>If I were new to this earth and had just learned =
what the=20
      US stock market was by reading the comments shared this morning=20
      post-Worldcom I'd think the stock market was going bye-bye. I'll =
admit-=20
      I'm still wet behind the ears when it comes to investing =
experience but I=20
      can't for a minute believe that the same types of comments weren't =
passed=20
      around (albeit pre-Internet, shiver) regarding the 1987 crash. Can =
anyone=20
      remember back that far? I am correct and memory short? Or this =
truly=20
      "new"? Sorry folks- I was in the sixth grade in=20
      1987.<BR><BR>Kelly<BR><BR>P.S. - thanks for the "Wall Street" =
quotes- it's=20
      the most used DVD I own!<BR><BR>-----Original =
Message-----<BR>From:=20
      Cefaloni, John L Jr.=20
      [AMSTA-AR-WEA]<BR>[mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil]<BR>Sent: =
Wednesday,=20
      June 26, 2002 10:18 AM<BR>To: <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:'canslim@lists.xmission.com'">'canslim@lists.xmission.com'=
</A><BR>Subject:=20
      RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement<BR><BR><BR>At the risk of being =
corny, I=20
      thought I'd dig up some quotes from the movie<BR>"Wall Street" =
(because=20
      Hollywood tells us everything we need to know about<BR>life=20
      ;-)<BR><BR>"The main thing about money, Bud, is that it makes you =
do=20
      things you don't<BR>want to do."<BR><BR>"Stop going for the easy =
buck and=20
      start producing something with your life.<BR>Create, instead of =
living off=20
      the buying and selling of others." <BR><BR>"Stick to the=20
      fundamentals.&nbsp; That's how IBM and Hilton were =
built."<BR><BR>"There=20
      are no shotcuts.&nbsp; Quick-buck artists come and go with every=20
      bull<BR>market, but the steady players make it through the bear=20
      markets."<BR><BR>"You're on a roll, kid.&nbsp; Enjoy it while it =
lasts,=20
      becuase it never does."<BR><BR>and, of course...<BR><BR>"Man looks =
in the=20
      abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that<BR>moment, man =
finds=20
      his character. And that is what keeps him out of =
the<BR>abyss."<BR><BR>Of=20
      course, the movie is packed with many more "bullish" quotes, but=20
      those<BR>will have to wait for another day.<BR><BR>-----Original=20
      Message-----<BR>From: Winston Little=20
      [mailto:wlittle1@peoplepc.com]<BR>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 =
10:33=20
      AM<BR>To: <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>Subject:=20
      Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement<BR><BR><BR>People in the rust belt =
are back=20
      in style.<BR><BR>I believe the expression is "The meek shall =
inherit the=20
      earth".<BR>There is merit to the people who work and sweat for a =
living,=20
      instead of the<BR>glorified crooks of the past three =
years.<BR>Remember=20
      all those clowns forming companies (with NO EARNINGS) that =
had<BR>market=20
      capitalization greater than that of General =
Motors?<BR><BR>Today:<BR>Lear=20
      LEI is up.They make car seats and interior parts.<BR>Delphi DPH =
guided up=20
      yesterday. They make electronic parts for cars =
(mostly<BR>GM).<BR>Visteon=20
      VC guided up this morning.They make car parts (mostly for=20
      Ford).<BR>P&amp;G ( as Duke pointed out) is up. Soap, toothpaste =
and paper=20
      towels.<BR>Donnelly DON&nbsp; (mirrors for cars) is to be bought =
out by=20
      Magna (they make car<BR>parts) at 38% =
premium.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----=20
      Original Message -----<BR>From: "Duke Miller" &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">dukemill@tampabay.rr.com</A>&gt;=
<BR>To:=20
      &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
      Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:07 AM<BR>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM=20
      restatement<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Absolutely.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; P&amp;G is =
up over=20
      $1 at the open this a.m.&nbsp; Up 16% this year.&nbsp; 43% last=20
      two<BR>&gt; years.&nbsp; Soap, toothpaste, quality people.&nbsp; =
All=20
      things you can count<BR>&gt; (on).<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
Duke<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; (I=20
      do have a position in P&amp;G)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -----Original=20
      Message-----<BR>&gt; From: <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>&gt;=20
      [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Winston=20
      Little<BR>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:48 AM<BR>&gt; To: =
<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
There may=20
      be some merit to companies that make goods that I can see,<BR>&gt; =
touch=20
      and count such as houses, cars, chemicals.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; There =
may also=20
      be some merit to companies that pay dividends, as the<BR>&gt; =
crooks are=20
      less likely to borrow or steal funds to pay=20
      dividends.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message =
- -----<BR>&gt;=20
      From: "Dave Cameron" &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:dfcameron@yahoo.com">dfcameron@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
To:=20
      &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
      Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:33 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: =
[CANSLIM] WCOM=20
      restatement<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Rocky (and all),<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Yeah... this is amazing.&nbsp;&nbsp; As a =
professional=20
      statistician, the recent<BR>&gt; &gt; events show why I don't use=20
      classical statistical techniques in<BR>&gt; &gt; =
investing.&nbsp;&nbsp; I=20
      sold all my individual holdings in November - haven't<BR>&gt; &gt; =
bought=20
      back in.&nbsp;&nbsp; Still hold the mutual funds for long term,=20
      but<BR>&gt; &gt; continue to watch them dwindle.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
      My line to people at work is that I'll be working until I'm =
80....<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Dave<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; --- Rocky Sanghvi =
&lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:rs@mylodestar.com">rs@mylodestar.com</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; I wish I could say that today coming blowoff will be the =
last=20
      one.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; There are other skeletons in the =
closet.&nbsp; More=20
      importantly the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; impact of the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
dropping=20
      dollar will be enormous in our highly leveraged financial<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt; system.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From ECON =
101<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; Until now we were managing to balance our foreign =
deficits by=20
      inflow<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; of cash from other countries into =
our=20
      markets.&nbsp; The falling dollar<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; is an=20
      indication<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; that money is moving OUT of the=20
      country.&nbsp; Watch out for the ripple<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
effects.<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Unless ofcourse we attack Iraq =
immediately and=20
      thereby create "a<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; demand" for<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
the the=20
      safety of the American dollar.&nbsp; ;)&nbsp;&nbsp; I guess I am=20
      cynical.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Today<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the market lost =
me as=20
      an investor for a very long time.&nbsp; I quit.<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of =
Winston=20
      Little<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:34 =
AM<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; To: <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; The =
mantra of=20
      the clowns:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "I want it ALL"<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
"Give it=20
      to me NOW"<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "It is MINE, I deserve it"<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
      From: "Kent Norman" &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:kent_norman@yahoo.com">kent_norman@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>&g=
t;=20
      &gt; &gt; To: &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =

      Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] WCOM restatement<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The answer is:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; The same childish, short-sighted, immediate =
satisfaction=20
      that<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; blinds<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; them to the=20
      possibility that there is a tomorrow... They run the<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt; business like they live their life. All today and no=20
      tomorrow.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Kent=20
      Norman<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; --- =
"Cefaloni, John L=20
      Jr. [AMSTA-AR-WEA]"<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:john.cefaloni@us.army.mil">john.cefaloni@us.army.mil</A>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Well said, =
Tom.&nbsp;=20
      What is it that makes people do things for<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;=20
      temporary<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; gain<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
      when they know they'll probably get slammed for it in the<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt; future?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt; I=20
      guess it's just greed, stupidity and arrogance.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original =
Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; From: Tom Worley =
[mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:53 =
AM<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; To: CANSLIM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: =
[CANSLIM]=20
      WCOM restatement<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; once again, Andersen strikes =
again, this=20
      time by signing off on<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Worldcom hiding =
over $3=20
      billion in expenses as capital<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
expenditures,=20
      and<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; thus<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; inflating =
cash=20
      flow. Restatement expected to take away last<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;=20
      five<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; quarters of<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
      profits and turn them into losses.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Who gave this sanction to a deviation from =
GAAP=20
      (Generally<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Accepted<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=20
      Accounting Principles)?? Andersen, of course. It's clear =
that<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
      &gt; Enron<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; was only<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt; the tip of the iceberg, as if Waste Management, Sunbeam, and=20
      a<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; host<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of =
other<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; companies were not sufficient warning of major =
problems=20
      in<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; corporate<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
policy<BR>&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and infrastructure. Sad to see a great name =
like=20
      Andersen<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; prostituted<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =

      to<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; selling its certification services =
for any=20
      price, but also<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; clear that<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
      it<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; must disappear from corporate =
America. And=20
      until every major<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; company<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
      audited<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; by Andersen undergoes a =
special review=20
      by the SEC on accounting<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; practices, I =
doubt=20
      anyone will believe that we have finally seen<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; it all.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
      Tom Worley<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A><BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt; AIM: TexWorley<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
      &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
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