Re: [CANSLIM] Andersen - what happens to new recruits

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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Andersen - what happens to new recruits
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:38:00 EDT

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David:

     Although this is not Canslim, since your remark was posted on the 
CANSLIM forum, I feel I should post my answer here:  

     Those poor little boys and girls.  My heart bleeds for them.  It is not 
their fault that they do something unscrupulous (no more than it was the 
fault of those who taught them the "Anderson" way-after all the tutors were 
themselves taught to be unethical by their own unscrupulous Anderson 
teachers-and no doubt they were as impressionably callow as the 1987-year 
people.  Of course, this could go on ad infinitum).

     So long as you allow people to be unethical and unlawful by excusing 
their unethical and illegal behavior, you are going to get more of 
it-especially if the crime costs less than the probability that the crime 
will be punished through condemnation and jail time.  

     After all, a baby isn't born good; he/she has to be taught to do the 
right thing.  However, apparently, all this learning falls by the wayside 
once Anderson-like training centers get their diabolical hands on the "kids". 
 Those poor impressionable youngsters-as a result of the training they've 
received from the demon Anderson guys-cannot remember the difference between 
right and wrong.  What Balderdash.  

     These are NOT children.  If one continues to treat adults like children 
by making excuses for their unethical behavior, then this population will 
become nothing but a nation of whining miscreants.  Just, by the way, what we 
need now to fight terrorists and terrorism. 

jans

In a message dated 6/29/2002 10:53:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dfcameron@yahoo.com writes:

<< In 1987, I started my professional career in Chicago.   I was 24
 years old, new to Chicago.   I wanted to learn my way around, make
 some new friends, etc.... much like young people new to an area will.
   My company was located close to Arthur Andersen's training center
 (which is really about 40 miles west of Chicago - but in the Chicago
 metro area).   I had the chance to meet several Andersen recruits.  
 These were young men and women who were (usually) fresh out of
 school, eager to make their mark, and new to the ways of business.  
 Their story (told independently by several people over the next
 several months) told of a boot camp like environment, with 70+ hour
 weeks, continual indoctrination in "the Andersen way" and even
 lodging together during stretches.   
 
 The company I worked for had no such thing.   Only years later did I
 realize that Andersen's approach was to get these people out of
 college before they knew what other companies did, work them very
 hard, and get them well indoctrinated.   Many left once they got some
 experience, but many stayed on - only knowing what Andersen taught as
 THE way business should be run.    
 
 In retrospect, I suspect that some of the shady dealings by senior
 members of Andersen were just drummed in to young impressionable
 people as "that's the way things are done in business".
 
 Again, take this for what its worth.   I didn't go through it.  I
 have a friend who I still keep in touch with who worked for Arthur
 Andersen Co. in Chicago.   This was also 15 years ago.   But... maybe
 it sheds some light on how things got they way they are.
  >>

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