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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_04D3_01C22014.DD83C3B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fanus, CANSLIM investing requires work. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Fanus=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Andersen - what happens to new recruits Dave If you ever have worked for any of the big consulting/auditing firms you would know practices like that is not only common to Andersen. Can we maybe stop the Andersen bashing and start getting back to CANSLIM on the group? - Fanus --- Dave Cameron <dfcameron@yahoo.com> wrote: > This message relays second-hand information, which > is also about 15 > years old. I haven't bothered to pass it along > because of these two > facts. But... given the latest posts on Andersen > employees, and > what might happen when they move on to other > companies, I thought I'd > toss it out there. >=20 > In 1987, I started my professional career in > Chicago. I was 24 > years old, new to Chicago. I wanted to learn my > way around, make > some new friends, etc.... much like young people new > to an area will. > My company was located close to Arthur Andersen's > training center > (which is really about 40 miles west of Chicago - > but in the Chicago > metro area). I had the chance to meet several > Andersen recruits. =20 > These were young men and women who were (usually) > fresh out of > school, eager to make their mark, and new to the > ways of business. =20 > Their story (told independently by several people > over the next > several months) told of a boot camp like > environment, with 70+ hour > weeks, continual indoctrination in "the Andersen > way" and even > lodging together during stretches. =20 >=20 > The company I worked for had no such thing. Only > years later did I > realize that Andersen's approach was to get these > people out of > college before they knew what other companies did, > work them very > hard, and get them well indoctrinated. Many left > once they got some > experience, but many stayed on - only knowing what > Andersen taught as > THE way business should be run. =20 >=20 > In retrospect, I suspect that some of the shady > dealings by senior > members of Andersen were just drummed in to young > impressionable > people as "that's the way things are done in > business". >=20 > Again, take this for what its worth. I didn't go > through it. I > have a friend who I still keep in touch with who > worked for Arthur > Andersen Co. in Chicago. This was also 15 years > ago. But... maybe > it sheds some light on how things got they way they > are. >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Dave Cameron > dfcameron@yahoo.com >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com >=20 > - > -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email > "majordomo@xmission.com" > -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or > -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email. - ------=_NextPart_000_04D3_01C22014.DD83C3B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4916.2300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Fanus, CANSLIM investing requires=20 work.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dfanus13@yahoo.com = href=3D"mailto:fanus13@yahoo.com">Fanus</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 29, 2002 = 11:04=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Andersen = - - what=20 happens to new recruits</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Dave<BR><BR>If you ever have worked for any of the=20 big<BR>consulting/auditing firms you would know practices<BR>like that = is not=20 only common to Andersen.<BR><BR>Can we maybe stop the Andersen bashing = and=20 start<BR>getting back to CANSLIM on the group?<BR><BR>- = Fanus<BR><BR>--- Dave=20 Cameron <<A = href=3D"mailto:dfcameron@yahoo.com">dfcameron@yahoo.com</A>>=20 wrote:<BR>> This message relays second-hand information, = which<BR>> is=20 also about 15<BR>> years old. I haven't bothered to = pass it=20 along<BR>> because of these two<BR>> facts. But... = given the=20 latest posts on Andersen<BR>> employees, and<BR>> what might = happen when=20 they move on to other<BR>> companies, I thought I'd<BR>> toss it = out=20 there.<BR>> <BR>> In 1987, I started my professional career = in<BR>>=20 Chicago. I was 24<BR>> years old, new to = Chicago. I=20 wanted to learn my<BR>> way around, make<BR>> some new friends, = etc....=20 much like young people new<BR>> to an area = will.<BR>> My=20 company was located close to Arthur Andersen's<BR>> training = center<BR>>=20 (which is really about 40 miles west of Chicago -<BR>> but in the=20 Chicago<BR>> metro area). I had the chance to meet=20 several<BR>> Andersen recruits. <BR>> These were young men = and=20 women who were (usually)<BR>> fresh out of<BR>> school, eager to = make=20 their mark, and new to the<BR>> ways of business. <BR>> = Their=20 story (told independently by several people<BR>> over the = next<BR>>=20 several months) told of a boot camp like<BR>> environment, with 70+ = hour<BR>> weeks, continual indoctrination in "the Andersen<BR>> = way" and=20 even<BR>> lodging together during stretches. <BR>> = <BR>>=20 The company I worked for had no such thing. Only<BR>> = years=20 later did I<BR>> realize that Andersen's approach was to get = these<BR>>=20 people out of<BR>> college before they knew what other companies=20 did,<BR>> work them very<BR>> hard, and get them well=20 indoctrinated. Many left<BR>> once they got = some<BR>>=20 experience, but many stayed on - only knowing what<BR>> Andersen = taught=20 as<BR>> THE way business should be run. <BR>> = <BR>>=20 In retrospect, I suspect that some of the shady<BR>> dealings by=20 senior<BR>> members of Andersen were just drummed in to = young<BR>>=20 impressionable<BR>> people as "that's the way things are done = in<BR>>=20 business".<BR>> <BR>> Again, take this for what its = worth. I=20 didn't go<BR>> through it. I<BR>> have a friend who I = still keep=20 in touch with who<BR>> worked for Arthur<BR>> Andersen Co. in=20 Chicago. This was also 15 years<BR>> ago. = But...=20 maybe<BR>> it sheds some light on how things got they way = they<BR>>=20 are.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>> Dave = Cameron<BR>> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:dfcameron@yahoo.com">dfcameron@yahoo.com</A><BR>> = <BR>>=20 __________________________________________________<BR>> Do You=20 Yahoo!?<BR>> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World = Cup<BR>> <A=20 = href=3D"http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com">http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com</A><= BR>>=20 <BR>> -<BR>> -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email<BR>> "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>>= ; -In=20 the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>> -"unsubscribe=20 canslim". Do not use quotes in=20 = your<BR>email.<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________= ___<BR>Do=20 You Yahoo!?<BR>Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup<BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com">http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com</A><= BR><BR>-<BR>-To=20 subscribe/unsubscribe, email "<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:majordomo@xmission.com">majordomo@xmission.com</A>"<BR>-In= the=20 email body, write "subscribe canslim" or<BR>-"unsubscribe = canslim". Do=20 not use quotes in your email.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_04D3_01C22014.DD83C3B0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". Do not use quotes in your email.
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