Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD


From: "John Calkins" <jcalkins@olypen.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:30:42 -0700

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Hello Katherine,

Your assessment of DGO and IBD are very interesting.  I have been mining =
IBD for several years and am in total agreement with you on the time =
involved to keep a ready list available.  But now with the =
Investors.com, a couple of saves per day of their spoon fed screens does =
at least give an education into how to do this.  I guess I would have to =
at least have bull market before I could consider a subscription to DGO. =
=20

So I have 2 questions for you.  First, do you find yourself in need of =
IBD when you subscribe to DGO once you have studied the market in IBD =
for several years.  And second, the most important piece of information =
in IBD is Where The Big Money Is Flowing on each exchange......is there =
a place, site or screen to get high volume candidates to study.  IBD =
takes the work out of this one but like you say, am I being spoon fed =
just a tiny group of possibilities?

Thanks for your advice, I and I'm sure others value your opinion highly.

John Calkins
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Katherine Malm=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 7:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD


  Hi Duke,

  The basic DGO is about $600/year.... only the additional tools bring =
it up to about $1000.=20

  Truth is, until recently, the features/charts etc. were not available =
at the IBD site and DGO was a godsend. It's beyond me how DGO can =
justify the price tag (DGO....hope you're reading THIS message) given =
that so many of the features are now available at no charge on the IBD =
site.

  However, an Excel report with 2500 stocks is not really the issue. It =
just matters if you mine a particular way. For example, I find it =
terribly disjointed and time consuming to take reports from the IBD =
itself or the Investors.com site, meld them together into some cohesive =
strategy, gather the appropriate info one by one from the charts, track =
the info and manage the updates day to day and expect to have a reliable =
strategy for monitoring stock movement, market health and selecting good =
stocks for purchase. It can be done, and even though you can automate =
some of the info gathering via Excel/Access, it doesn't necessarily give =
you a reliable, time-effective process. The bottom line for me? Time is =
money. I've had similar discussions with many folks over the years and =
it always boils down to this. If you see time as money and you prefer to =
have a methodical strategy for mining for buyable CANSLIM candidates =
that does not rely on what the IBD or Investors.com editors may choose =
to highlight, then you'll choose DGO. If those things don't matter, the =
IBD and the Investor.com site are more than sufficient.

  Katherine
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Duke13139@aol.com=20
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:18 AM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] DGO/IBD


    Investors.com provides daily/weekly charts, info on stocks within =
the same industry, proprietary info (RS on their charts), etc. I need =
something provided by DGO that is worth the $1000 premium. I don't want =
to wrestle with 2500 stocks. I can generate my own reports using a combo =
of EXCEL/ACCESS.

    My question clarified: What can DGO provide that I can't get from =
IBD?=20

    Thanks for your help.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Katherine,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your assessment of DGO and IBD are very =

interesting.&nbsp; I have been mining IBD for several years and am in =
total=20
agreement with you on the time involved to keep a ready list =
available.&nbsp;=20
But now with the Investors.com, a couple of saves per day of their spoon =
fed=20
screens does at least give an education into how to do this.&nbsp; I =
guess I=20
would have to at least have bull market before I could consider a =
subscription=20
to DGO.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I have 2 questions for you.&nbsp; =
First, do you=20
find yourself in need of IBD when you subscribe to DGO once you have =
studied the=20
market in IBD for several years.&nbsp; And second, the most important =
piece of=20
information in IBD is Where The Big Money Is Flowing on each =
exchange......is=20
there a place, site or screen to get high volume candidates to =
study.&nbsp; IBD=20
takes the work out of this one but like you say, am I being spoon fed =
just a=20
tiny group of possibilities?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your advice, I and I'm sure =
others value=20
your opinion highly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John Calkins</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20
  Malm</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 03, 2002 =
7:37=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
DGO/IBD</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Hi Duke,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The basic DGO is about $600/year.... only the additional tools =
bring it=20
  up to about $1000. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Truth is, until recently, the features/charts etc. were not =
available at=20
  the IBD site and DGO was a godsend. It's beyond me how DGO can justify =
the=20
  price tag (DGO....hope you're reading THIS message) given that so many =
of the=20
  features are now available at no charge on the IBD site.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>However, an Excel report with 2500 stocks is not really the =
issue. It=20
  just matters if you mine a particular way. For example, I find it =
terribly=20
  disjointed and time consuming&nbsp;to take reports from the IBD itself =
or the=20
  Investors.com site, meld them together into some cohesive strategy, =
gather the=20
  appropriate info one by one from the charts, track the info and manage =
the=20
  updates day to day and expect to have a reliable strategy for =
monitoring stock=20
  movement, market health and selecting good stocks for purchase. It can =
be=20
  done, and even though you can automate some of the info gathering via=20
  Excel/Access, it doesn't necessarily give you a reliable, =
time-effective=20
  process. The bottom line for me? Time is money. I've had similar =
discussions=20
  with many folks over the years and it always boils down to this. If =
you see=20
  time as money and you prefer to have a methodical strategy for mining=20
  for&nbsp;buyable CANSLIM candidates that does not rely on what the IBD =
or=20
  Investors.com editors may choose to highlight, then you'll choose DGO. =
If=20
  those things don't matter, the IBD and the Investor.com site are more =
than=20
  sufficient.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3DDuke13139@aol.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:Duke13139@aol.com">Duke13139@aol.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 03, =
2002 9:18=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
DGO/IBD</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Investors.com provides daily/weekly charts, =
info on=20
    stocks within the same industry, proprietary info (RS on their =
charts), etc.=20
    I need something provided by DGO that is worth the $1000 premium. I =
don't=20
    want to wrestle with 2500 stocks. I can generate my own reports =
using a=20
    combo of EXCEL/ACCESS.<BR><BR>My question clarified: What can DGO =
provide=20
    that I can't get from IBD? <BR><BR>Thanks for your=20
help.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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