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MessagePerhaps its an old saw, but a cynic recently observed to me that our
government is "of the money, by the money, for the money".
Aloha,
Mike Gibbons
Proactive Technologies, LLC
http://www.proactech.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Worley
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 3:26 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
Not Democrat or Republican bashing, truth is most major corps have been
cuddling up to politicians for decades, if not centuries. Doesn't matter
which party is in power, they are like a magnet to big money. Special
interests have carried far too much influence for far too many years, and
it's measured in how much money can be donated quietly, how many staffers
can leave govt and land a fat salary in corporate America, how many
politicians can end up on a Board of Directors with stock options.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Forant
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
Not Democrat Bashing. Where were all the articles and SEC during the
last Administration. Before Martha gets swallowed whole, she better visit
Jenny Craig.
DanF
----- Original Message -----
From: zillagirl
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
Good article on FREE REAL TIME.COM today. Compares what President Bush
did when he was director of Harden Oil and sold 850,000.00 worth of stock
right before they disclosed how much debt the company had been hiding , to
the Enron problems. Was in the Wall Street Journal. Said he may have gotten
off because his dad was president. NOT REPUBLICAN BASHING!!! Just noting
how hard it is to get meaningful change in our political system because
everyone(on both sides) has too much to gain by leaving things the way the
are. I guess swallowing Martha Stewart whole will have to satisfy our
appetites for justice. Lets just hope it satisfies the markets also,
especially those of the European investors who are pulling more and more
money out every day.
----- Original Message -----
From: zillagirl
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
tom-would be interested in reading the article on halliburton if you
can tell me where to find it. Article in L.A. Times business section on
pennystocks. Said they are becoming more popular because people are feeling
like if they are gambling on stocks may as well be cheap ones. Noted WCOM
went up 376% last week after new CEO came out and said it was to big and
important a company to go under. not so much canslim note as M note.
zillagirl
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Worley
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
Duke, aside from raising my upper price limit to $20 from $18 and
market cap from $500 million to $650 million some months ago (partially
because of greater buying power thanks to early profits), I have made little
change in screening. I have been far less restrictive on RS on stocks I
already hold so long as fundamentals are holding up to my expectations.
I do think there is the potential for market improvement next week,
noticed that the 10 day moving average for up / down volume had picked up on
most indexes, even turned positive on some, so that is encouraging. Most
stocks are so beaten down right now it will take time to see the same on the
10 day new highs / lows numbers.
There are still corporate accounting problems coming out of the
woodwork, just read an article on Halliburton (Dick Cheney was VP there in
2000), and more calls for SEC investigation of Bush and his Cabinet.
Disclosure by the House that they believe the Board of Directors of Enron
knew for several years of what was going on is also leading to more
politically inspired calls for reforms, and investigations of Bush. So the
politics, if not actual news, will keep this issue in the forefront for some
time.
As I mentioned yesterday or Friday, the rally on Friday was
primarily a relief rally that there was no major terrorist attack over the
holiday (and now thru the weekend). That certainly could inspire a day or
two of frenzied buying, by value shoppers, by sidelined cash that wants to
be in the market, and by the shorters having to cover. I have less
confidence that it could lead to a sustained rally on fundamentals and
economics, even tho that would be legitimate as I see these factors.
----- Original Message -----
From: Duke Miller
To: CANSLIM
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Screening
Ok, wake up out there!!
Could it be that things might possibly by some mere stretch of the
imagination...start looking up? Is it time to proceed with some early-on
mining?
To that end, I went back through my CAN SLIM Keepers folder...you
know, where I put stuff my 50-something mind needs to be refreshed upon
because it's meaningful, and I'm prone to forgetting. (See anecdote at end
of this message; if it rings a bell, so to speak, you need your own CAN SLIM
Keepers Folder!).
Katherine Malm is in the "from" line in my Keeper folder more than
anyone else (wonder why?), so I'm using her as the catapult for my query.
At the same time, I'm asking others to chime in, PLEASE.
On April 29, Katherine, you summarized your screening tactics in an
email, subject: "How are you choosing your stocks." To paraphrase:
RS>=60
Price>=200dma
Price>=50 dma -15%
A/D = A, B, or C
EPS Rating =>50
Meeting or exceeding these criteria, you flip through the charts to
see which are setting up, then proceed to additional scrutiny. The
following is quoting directly from your email:(hilite is mine):
With respect to annual and quarterly growth, ROE, D/E, cashflow
etc., again, I look at these things in total, knowing that accounting rules
often obfuscate the "real" story. For that reason, I like to skim the recent
SEC filings if a stock makes my short due diligence list, rather than
eliminating stocks entirely just because ROE is 14.6 vs 15% for example.
At the risk of interrupting Katherine's summer reading program, my
question for the week:
Now that the market has dipped this far, what screen changes, if
any, are you contemplating to narrow down your selections?
I've stated before that my feeling is the stocks that have not
succumbed as much lately (RS above 90, for instance) will be huge winners;
they are passing "obfuscated 'real' story" scrutiny.
Or will they? Are they more havens than performers, with the
prospect of giving way to other types of issues destined to surface into the
winners' pool?
Duke
>Senior Moment:
>An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house, and after
>eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen. The two
>elderly gentlemen were talking, and one said, "Last night we went
out
>to a new restaurant, and it was really great. I would recommend it
>very highly."
>
>The other man said, "What is the name of the restaurant?" The first
man
>thought and thought and finally said, "What is the name of that
flower
>you give to someone you love? You know... the one that is red and
has
>thorns.
>
>"Do you mean a rose?"
>
>"Yes," the man said. He turned toward the kitchen and yelled, "Hey
>Rose, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last night?"
>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D700283201-08072002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Perhaps its an old saw, but a cynic recently observed to =
me that our=20
government is "of the money, by the money, for the =
money".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D700283201-08072002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aloha,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Gibbons<BR>Proactive Technologies, =
LLC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.proactech.com/">http://www.proactech.com</A></FONT></D=
IV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom=20
Worley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 3:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM]=20
Screening<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Not Democrat or Republican bashing, truth is =
most major=20
corps have been cuddling up to politicians for decades, if not =
centuries.=20
Doesn't matter which party is in power, they are like a magnet to big =
money.=20
Special interests have carried far too much influence for far too many =
years,=20
and it's measured in how much money can be donated quietly, how many =
staffers=20
can leave govt and land a fat salary in corporate America, how many=20
politicians can end up on a Board of Directors with stock=20
options.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddforant1@nycap.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com">Dan Forant</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Screening</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Not Democrat =
Bashing. Where=20
were all the articles and SEC during the last Administration. Before =
Martha=20
gets swallowed whole, she better visit Jenny Craig.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DanF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dzillagirl@email.msn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com">zillagirl</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 =
8:54=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Screening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good article on FREE REAL TIME.COM =
today.=20
Compares what President Bush did when he was director of Harden Oil =
and sold=20
850,000.00 worth of stock right before they disclosed how much debt =
the=20
company had been hiding , to the Enron problems. Was in the Wall =
Street=20
Journal. Said he may have gotten off because his dad was=20
president. NOT REPUBLICAN BASHING!!! Just noting how =
hard it is=20
to get meaningful change in our political system because everyone(on =
both=20
sides) has too much to gain by leaving things the way the =
are. I=20
guess swallowing Martha Stewart whole will have to satisfy our =
appetites for=20
justice. Lets just hope it satisfies the markets also, =
especially=20
those of the European investors who are pulling more and more money =
out=20
every day.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dzillagirl@email.msn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com">zillagirl</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 =
1:47=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM]=20
Screening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tom-would be interested in =
reading the=20
article on halliburton if you can tell me where to find it. =
Article in=20
L.A. Times business section on pennystocks. Said they are becoming =
more=20
popular because people are feeling like if they are gambling on =
stocks may=20
as well be cheap ones. Noted WCOM went up 376% last week after new =
CEO=20
came out and said it was to big and important a company to go =
under. not=20
so much canslim note as M note. zillagirl</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">Tom=20
Worley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, =
2002 9:56=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM]=20
Screening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Duke, aside from raising my upper price =
limit to=20
$20 from $18 and market cap from $500 million to $650 million =
some=20
months ago (partially because of greater buying power thanks to =
early=20
profits), I have made little change in screening. I have been =
far less=20
restrictive on RS on stocks I already hold so long as =
fundamentals are=20
holding up to my expectations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I do think there is the potential for =
market=20
improvement next week, noticed that the 10 day moving average =
for up /=20
down volume had picked up on most indexes, even turned positive =
on some,=20
so that is encouraging. Most stocks are so beaten down right now =
it will=20
take time to see the same on the 10 day new highs / lows=20
numbers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>There are still corporate accounting =
problems=20
coming out of the woodwork, just read an article on Halliburton =
(Dick=20
Cheney was VP there in 2000), and more calls for SEC =
investigation of=20
Bush and his Cabinet. Disclosure by the House that they believe =
the=20
Board of Directors of Enron knew for several years of what was =
going on=20
is also leading to more politically inspired calls for reforms, =
and=20
investigations of Bush. So the politics, if not actual news, =
will keep=20
this issue in the forefront for some time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>As I mentioned yesterday or Friday, the =
rally on=20
Friday was primarily a relief rally that there was no major =
terrorist=20
attack over the holiday (and now thru the weekend). That =
certainly could=20
inspire a day or two of frenzied buying, by value shoppers, by =
sidelined=20
cash that wants to be in the market, and by the shorters having =
to=20
cover. I have less confidence that it could lead to a sustained =
rally on=20
fundamentals and economics, even tho that would be legitimate as =
I see=20
these factors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddukemill@tampabay.rr.com=20
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">Duke Miller</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">CANSLIM</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:43 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Screening</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>Ok, =
wake up out=20
there!! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>Could =
it be that=20
things might possibly by some mere stretch of the =
imagination...start=20
looking up? Is it time to proceed with some early-on=20
mining?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>To that =
end, I went=20
back through my CAN SLIM Keepers folder...you know, where I put =
stuff my=20
50-something mind needs to be refreshed upon because it's =
meaningful,=20
and I'm prone to forgetting. (See anecdote at end of this =
message;=20
if it rings a bell, so to speak, you need your own CAN SLIM =
Keepers=20
Folder!).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Katherine Malm=20
is in the "from" line in my Keeper folder more than=20
anyone else (wonder why?), so I'm using her as the =
catapult=20
for my query. At the same time, I'm asking others to chime =
in,=20
PLEASE. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>On =
April 29,=20
Katherine, you summarized your screening tactics in an email, =
subject:=20
"How are you choosing your stocks." To=20
paraphrase:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>RS>=3D60</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Price>=3D200dma</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Price>=3D50 dma=20
-15%</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>A/D =
=3D A, B,=20
or C</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>EPS =
Rating=20
=3D>50</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>Meeting =
or=20
exceeding these criteria, you flip through the charts to see =
which are=20
setting up, then proceed to additional scrutiny. The =
following is=20
quoting directly from your email:(hilite is =
mine):</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002>With respect to annual and =
quarterly=20
growth, ROE, D/E, cashflow etc., again, I look at these things =
in total,=20
knowing that <FONT color=3D#ff0000>accounting rules often =
obfuscate the=20
"real" story</FONT>. For that reason, I like to skim the recent =
SEC=20
filings if a stock makes my short due diligence list, rather =
than=20
eliminating stocks entirely just because ROE is 14.6 vs 15% for =
example.=20
</SPAN></DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<P align=3Dleft></FONT><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002>At the =
risk of=20
interrupting Katherine's summer reading program, my =
question for=20
the week: </SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Now that=20
the market has dipped this far, what screen changes, if =
any, are=20
you contemplating to narrow down your selections? =20
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>I've=20
stated before that my feeling is the stocks that have not =
succumbed as=20
much lately (RS above 90, for instance) will be huge =
winners;=20
they are passing "obfuscated 'real' story" scrutiny. =20
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Or will=20
they? Are they more havens than performers, with the =
prospect of=20
giving way to other types of issues destined to surface into the =
winners' pool?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN =
class=3D093400116-07072002>
<P><FONT size=3D2>><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002>Senior=20
Moment:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002></SPAN><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D093400116-07072002>></SPAN>An elderly couple had =
dinner at=20
another couple's house, and after</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>eating, the wives left the table and went =
into the=20
kitchen. The two </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>elderly gentlemen were talking, and one =
said, "Last=20
night we went out </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>to a new restaurant, and it was really =
great. I=20
would recommend it </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>very highly."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>The other man said, "What is the name of =
the=20
restaurant?" The first man</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>thought and thought and finally said, =
"What is the=20
name of that flower </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>you give to someone you love? You know... =
the one=20
that is red and has </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>thorns.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>"Do you mean a rose?"</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>"Yes," the man said. He turned toward the =
kitchen=20
and yelled, "Hey</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>Rose,<SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002> =
what's the name=20
of that restaurant we went to last night?"</SPAN></FONT></P>
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