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Messagehi Dan-I guess because I don't know as much about canslim as most =
of you do(sometimes I read the emails and it astounds me how so many =
systems are worked out for all of you) I don't have as much input as the =
rest. Slowly I am reading and learning though. If I read an article on a =
democrat that I thought affected the markets I be putting that out too, =
without a second thought. I tried to stress that in the email. I believe =
right is right and wrong is wrong-not so much democrat or republican. It =
would be bad if this whole group fell apart because of a few facts being =
pointed out, so Ill will try to refrain from comments on the M also and =
just try to keep learning so I can make more money when the M turns. =
good luck in your investing also Nancy
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dan Forant=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
Not Democrat Bashing. Where were all the articles and SEC during =
the last Administration. Before Martha gets swallowed whole, she better =
visit Jenny Craig.
DanF
----- Original Message -----=20
From: zillagirl=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
Good article on FREE REAL TIME.COM today. Compares what President =
Bush did when he was director of Harden Oil and sold 850,000.00 worth of =
stock right before they disclosed how much debt the company had been =
hiding , to the Enron problems. Was in the Wall Street Journal. Said he =
may have gotten off because his dad was president. NOT REPUBLICAN =
BASHING!!! Just noting how hard it is to get meaningful change in our =
political system because everyone(on both sides) has too much to gain by =
leaving things the way the are. I guess swallowing Martha Stewart whole =
will have to satisfy our appetites for justice. Lets just hope it =
satisfies the markets also, especially those of the European investors =
who are pulling more and more money out every day.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: zillagirl=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
tom-would be interested in reading the article on halliburton if =
you can tell me where to find it. Article in L.A. Times business section =
on pennystocks. Said they are becoming more popular because people are =
feeling like if they are gambling on stocks may as well be cheap ones. =
Noted WCOM went up 376% last week after new CEO came out and said it was =
to big and important a company to go under. not so much canslim note as =
M note. zillagirl
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tom Worley=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Screening
Duke, aside from raising my upper price limit to $20 from $18 =
and market cap from $500 million to $650 million some months ago =
(partially because of greater buying power thanks to early profits), I =
have made little change in screening. I have been far less restrictive =
on RS on stocks I already hold so long as fundamentals are holding up to =
my expectations.
I do think there is the potential for market improvement next =
week, noticed that the 10 day moving average for up / down volume had =
picked up on most indexes, even turned positive on some, so that is =
encouraging. Most stocks are so beaten down right now it will take time =
to see the same on the 10 day new highs / lows numbers.
There are still corporate accounting problems coming out of the =
woodwork, just read an article on Halliburton (Dick Cheney was VP there =
in 2000), and more calls for SEC investigation of Bush and his Cabinet. =
Disclosure by the House that they believe the Board of Directors of =
Enron knew for several years of what was going on is also leading to =
more politically inspired calls for reforms, and investigations of Bush. =
So the politics, if not actual news, will keep this issue in the =
forefront for some time.
As I mentioned yesterday or Friday, the rally on Friday was =
primarily a relief rally that there was no major terrorist attack over =
the holiday (and now thru the weekend). That certainly could inspire a =
day or two of frenzied buying, by value shoppers, by sidelined cash that =
wants to be in the market, and by the shorters having to cover. I have =
less confidence that it could lead to a sustained rally on fundamentals =
and economics, even tho that would be legitimate as I see these factors.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Duke Miller=20
To: CANSLIM=20
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Screening
Ok, wake up out there!! =20
Could it be that things might possibly by some mere stretch of =
the imagination...start looking up? Is it time to proceed with some =
early-on mining?
To that end, I went back through my CAN SLIM Keepers =
folder...you know, where I put stuff my 50-something mind needs to be =
refreshed upon because it's meaningful, and I'm prone to forgetting. =
(See anecdote at end of this message; if it rings a bell, so to speak, =
you need your own CAN SLIM Keepers Folder!).
Katherine Malm is in the "from" line in my Keeper folder more =
than anyone else (wonder why?), so I'm using her as the catapult for my =
query. At the same time, I'm asking others to chime in, PLEASE. =20
On April 29, Katherine, you summarized your screening tactics in =
an email, subject: "How are you choosing your stocks." To paraphrase:
RS>=3D60
Price>=3D200dma
Price>=3D50 dma -15%
A/D =3D A, B, or C
EPS Rating =3D>50
Meeting or exceeding these criteria, you flip through the charts =
to see which are setting up, then proceed to additional scrutiny. The =
following is quoting directly from your email:(hilite is mine):
With respect to annual and quarterly growth, ROE, D/E, cashflow =
etc., again, I look at these things in total, knowing that accounting =
rules often obfuscate the "real" story. For that reason, I like to skim =
the recent SEC filings if a stock makes my short due diligence list, =
rather than eliminating stocks entirely just because ROE is 14.6 vs 15% =
for example.=20
At the risk of interrupting Katherine's summer reading program, =
my question for the week:=20
Now that the market has dipped this far, what screen changes, if =
any, are you contemplating to narrow down your selections? =20
I've stated before that my feeling is the stocks that have not =
succumbed as much lately (RS above 90, for instance) will be huge =
winners; they are passing "obfuscated 'real' story" scrutiny. =20
Or will they? Are they more havens than performers, with the =
prospect of giving way to other types of issues destined to surface into =
the winners' pool?
Duke
>Senior Moment:
>An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house, and =
after
>eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen. The =
two=20
>elderly gentlemen were talking, and one said, "Last night we =
went out=20
>to a new restaurant, and it was really great. I would recommend =
it=20
>very highly."
>
>The other man said, "What is the name of the restaurant?" The =
first man
>thought and thought and finally said, "What is the name of that =
flower=20
>you give to someone you love? You know... the one that is red =
and has=20
>thorns.
>
>"Do you mean a rose?"
>
>"Yes," the man said. He turned toward the kitchen and yelled, =
"Hey
>Rose, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last =
night?"
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hi Dan-I guess because I don't know as =
much about=20
canslim as most of you do(sometimes I read the emails and it astounds me =
how so=20
many systems are worked out for all of you) I don't have as much input =
as the=20
rest. Slowly I am reading and learning though. If I read an article on a =
democrat that I thought affected the markets I be putting that out too, =
without=20
a second thought. I tried to stress that in the email. I believe =
right is=20
right and wrong is wrong-not so much democrat or republican. It would be =
bad if=20
this whole group fell apart because of a few facts being pointed out, so =
Ill=20
will try to refrain from comments on the M also and just try to keep =
learning so=20
I can make more money when the M turns. good luck in your =
investing also=20
Nancy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddforant1@nycap.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com">Dan=20
Forant</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 =
6:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Screening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Not Democrat =
Bashing. Where=20
were all the articles and SEC during the last Administration. Before =
Martha=20
gets swallowed whole, she better visit Jenny Craig.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DanF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dzillagirl@email.msn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com">zillagirl</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 =
8:54=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Screening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good article on FREE REAL TIME.COM =
today.=20
Compares what President Bush did when he was director of Harden Oil =
and sold=20
850,000.00 worth of stock right before they disclosed how much debt =
the=20
company had been hiding , to the Enron problems. Was in the Wall =
Street=20
Journal. Said he may have gotten off because his dad was=20
president. NOT REPUBLICAN BASHING!!! Just noting how =
hard it is=20
to get meaningful change in our political system because everyone(on =
both=20
sides) has too much to gain by leaving things the way the =
are. I=20
guess swallowing Martha Stewart whole will have to satisfy our =
appetites for=20
justice. Lets just hope it satisfies the markets also, =
especially=20
those of the European investors who are pulling more and more money =
out=20
every day.</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dzillagirl@email.msn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com">zillagirl</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 =
1:47=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM]=20
Screening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tom-would be interested in =
reading the=20
article on halliburton if you can tell me where to find it. =
Article in=20
L.A. Times business section on pennystocks. Said they are becoming =
more=20
popular because people are feeling like if they are gambling on =
stocks may=20
as well be cheap ones. Noted WCOM went up 376% last week after new =
CEO=20
came out and said it was to big and important a company to go =
under. not=20
so much canslim note as M note. zillagirl</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">Tom=20
Worley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, =
2002 9:56=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM]=20
Screening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Duke, aside from raising my upper price =
limit to=20
$20 from $18 and market cap from $500 million to $650 million =
some=20
months ago (partially because of greater buying power thanks to =
early=20
profits), I have made little change in screening. I have been =
far less=20
restrictive on RS on stocks I already hold so long as =
fundamentals are=20
holding up to my expectations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I do think there is the potential for =
market=20
improvement next week, noticed that the 10 day moving average =
for up /=20
down volume had picked up on most indexes, even turned positive =
on some,=20
so that is encouraging. Most stocks are so beaten down right now =
it will=20
take time to see the same on the 10 day new highs / lows=20
numbers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>There are still corporate accounting =
problems=20
coming out of the woodwork, just read an article on Halliburton =
(Dick=20
Cheney was VP there in 2000), and more calls for SEC =
investigation of=20
Bush and his Cabinet. Disclosure by the House that they believe =
the=20
Board of Directors of Enron knew for several years of what was =
going on=20
is also leading to more politically inspired calls for reforms, =
and=20
investigations of Bush. So the politics, if not actual news, =
will keep=20
this issue in the forefront for some time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>As I mentioned yesterday or Friday, the =
rally on=20
Friday was primarily a relief rally that there was no major =
terrorist=20
attack over the holiday (and now thru the weekend). That =
certainly could=20
inspire a day or two of frenzied buying, by value shoppers, by =
sidelined=20
cash that wants to be in the market, and by the shorters having =
to=20
cover. I have less confidence that it could lead to a sustained =
rally on=20
fundamentals and economics, even tho that would be legitimate as =
I see=20
these factors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddukemill@tampabay.rr.com=20
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">Duke Miller</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">CANSLIM</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:43 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Screening</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>Ok, =
wake up out=20
there!! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>Could =
it be that=20
things might possibly by some mere stretch of the =
imagination...start=20
looking up? Is it time to proceed with some early-on=20
mining?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>To that =
end, I went=20
back through my CAN SLIM Keepers folder...you know, where I put =
stuff my=20
50-something mind needs to be refreshed upon because it's =
meaningful,=20
and I'm prone to forgetting. (See anecdote at end of this =
message;=20
if it rings a bell, so to speak, you need your own CAN SLIM =
Keepers=20
Folder!).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Katherine Malm=20
is in the "from" line in my Keeper folder more than=20
anyone else (wonder why?), so I'm using her as the =
catapult=20
for my query. At the same time, I'm asking others to chime =
in,=20
PLEASE. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>On =
April 29,=20
Katherine, you summarized your screening tactics in an email, =
subject:=20
"How are you choosing your stocks." To=20
paraphrase:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>RS>=3D60</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Price>=3D200dma</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Price>=3D50 dma=20
-15%</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>A/D =
=3D A, B,=20
or C</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>EPS =
Rating=20
=3D>50</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT face=3DArial>Meeting =
or=20
exceeding these criteria, you flip through the charts to see =
which are=20
setting up, then proceed to additional scrutiny. The =
following is=20
quoting directly from your email:(hilite is =
mine):</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002>With respect to annual and =
quarterly=20
growth, ROE, D/E, cashflow etc., again, I look at these things =
in total,=20
knowing that <FONT color=3D#ff0000>accounting rules often =
obfuscate the=20
"real" story</FONT>. For that reason, I like to skim the recent =
SEC=20
filings if a stock makes my short due diligence list, rather =
than=20
eliminating stocks entirely just because ROE is 14.6 vs 15% for =
example.=20
</SPAN></DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<P align=3Dleft></FONT><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002>At the =
risk of=20
interrupting Katherine's summer reading program, my =
question for=20
the week: </SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Now that=20
the market has dipped this far, what screen changes, if =
any, are=20
you contemplating to narrow down your selections? =20
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>I've=20
stated before that my feeling is the stocks that have not =
succumbed as=20
much lately (RS above 90, for instance) will be huge =
winners;=20
they are passing "obfuscated 'real' story" scrutiny. =20
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT =
face=3DArial>Or will=20
they? Are they more havens than performers, with the =
prospect of=20
giving way to other types of issues destined to surface into the =
winners' pool?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Duke</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN =
class=3D093400116-07072002>
<P><FONT size=3D2>><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002>Senior=20
Moment:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002></SPAN><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D093400116-07072002>></SPAN>An elderly couple had =
dinner at=20
another couple's house, and after</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>eating, the wives left the table and went =
into the=20
kitchen. The two </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>elderly gentlemen were talking, and one =
said, "Last=20
night we went out </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>to a new restaurant, and it was really =
great. I=20
would recommend it </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>very highly."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>The other man said, "What is the name of =
the=20
restaurant?" The first man</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>thought and thought and finally said, =
"What is the=20
name of that flower </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>you give to someone you love? You know... =
the one=20
that is red and has </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>thorns.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>"Do you mean a rose?"</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>"Yes," the man said. He turned toward the =
kitchen=20
and yelled, "Hey</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>>Rose,<SPAN class=3D093400116-07072002> =
what's the name=20
of that restaurant we went to last night?"</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT=20
size=3D2>></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUO=
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