From: Jack Tencza <jtenz@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Accounting stuff (off topic, sorta)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:50:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Fred, thanks for sharing/venting. Much food for thought here. Jack - --- Fred Richards <adrich@gte.net> wrote: > As some of you know, I first became a CEO at age 28 > after being one of the > youngest partners of a Wall Street firm. On the > wall behind my desk was a > plague given to me by my former mentor, it read, > > "You will always be the last to know what is going > on within your own > company!" And he was often correct. > > In all of my businesses, I tried to spend 1/3 of my > time visiting customers > and/or clients, 1/3 articulating and implementing > the corporate vision, > overseeing the organization and the excellent people > who worked with me, and > 1/3 keeping abreast of competitors as well as the > technologies which were > developing in them. > > There are so many problems in preparing a realistic > view of a corporation's > financial health that it would take a book to set > them down. > > Take for example --- the various depreciation and/or > depletion policies and > methods available for capital equipment here and in > overseas markets versus > the actual useful life of the equipment and/or > asset. > > In some countries, you just expense the cost of a > building and all the > equipment in it the first year it is placed in > service. In others, the cost > of the building must be depreciated over a number of > years while the > equipment within is depreciated over a variety of > time-frames. Of course, > all of this depreciation and/or depletion with the > exception of expensing it > in the initial year does not take into account the > effect of currency > fluctuation either through inflation and/or world > market currency > fluctuations. Since the true goal of depreciation > is to allow you to > amortize the cost over its useful life and > supposedly to have sufficient > funds to replace the equipment at the end of that > useful life, the failure > to take currency valuation into account is nothing > more than government > confiscation of shareholder equity. > > Many years ago, two of my companies which were not > owned in a > parent-subsidiary relationship contracted over a six > month span for two > complete assembly lines for our products from a > Swiss manufacturer and > bought currency hedges to protect our capital > investment prior to delivery. > > One line went to the Far East and the other to the > US. Although each > assembly line originally cost the same, the > so-called profit after adjusting > each assembly line for wage differentials amounted > to over 18% of the total > profit because of depreciation differences in the > two countries during the > first year. > > I am absolutely amazed that the CEO's, CFA's and the > entire CPA profession > is not up in arms over the new SEC regulations on > statement sign-off. There > are so many ways to account for GAAP income and > expenses and still be legal > that unless you have the chart of accounts and the > accounting manual for the > corporation, you may never know what is going on. > > I recall a situation in one of my companies where > the day after the clean > audit was issued by a Big Four accounting firm, I > went into the office and > opened that Saturday's mail. In one of the bank > impressed statements, I > found deposits and withdrawals for many thousands of > dollars. The account > was supposedly only for incidental expenses and the > balance was to be under > $5,000 at all times. That statement showed over > $150,000 flowing through > it. > > The company sustained a fraud loss of $450,000 as > the CFO was double paying > the social security taxes and taking the refunds and > depositing them to the > impressed cash account and writing checks to > himself. When we questioned > the auditors as to why the impressed cash account > had not been audited, they > said "it was not a big deal and too small to worry > about." Right! > > You can't make honest people honest with > regulations. Nor can you make > dishonest people, honest with them. That is the big > fallacy with > regulations. What you will do is lower the > willingness of people to expose > themselves to risk over which they have little or no > control. > > But you will saddle the company with increased > expense to comply with all > the new regulations and with bureaucrats who will > second-guess your > decisions if things don't turn out. And as that > mentor of mine said, you > will probably only make 50% of your decisions > correctly. The key to success > is knowing how to cut your losses. > > I know that this is off-topic! But I had to vent! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf > Of Tom Worley > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 4:00 PM > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Accounting stuff (off topic, > sorta) > > > I agree, Fred, that this by itself only serves to > keep the honest executives > honest, while still exposing them to some future > complaint or lawsuit or > criminal prosecution because an accounting > interpretation changes, or some > underling was doing something illegal that the CEO > or CFO couldn't detect > (they can't be everywhere). Look at Barings, huge > bank brought down by the > illegal trading activity in Asia by one rogue > trader. Would have been hard > for the parent bank to know what was going on when > the Asian subsidiary > didn't. > > Fred, how about some specific suggestions of what > you think should be > changed or mandated, either as law or by accounting > standards? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Richards" <adrich@gte.net> > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 4:39 PM > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Accounting stuff (off topic, > sorta) > > > > > This is a perfect example of a "feel-good" > regulations that will prevent a > lot of good and qualified people for refusing to > take on the responsibility > of being CEO's and/or CFO's. > > In fact, I already know of three CEO's who are > top-notch and rather young > who have been advised by their financial advisors to > resign and retire > before this terrible regulation goes into effect. > > At this point, at least two of them are submitting > their letters of > resignation. > > Over the last 20 years, a large number of my > acquaintances and myself have > refused to accept offers to be on public boards. > Even with the liability > insurance, it isn't worth the hassle. > > In the end, these types of "feel-good" will have the > exact opposite effect. > Qualified people will find it increasingly necessary > to refrain from the > potential financial and criminal exposure. > === message truncated === ===== Jack __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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