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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:54:31 -0400
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good advice, David. If you have bought into a LLUR, and it continues to =
behave going forward as it had been, then a little patience and time and =
you should be on the right side of the trade (profitable). If the =
pattern continues, there is always plenty of time to add to the position =
by averaging up.
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From: David Taggart=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:10 AM
Subject: [CANSLIM] LLUR
IMHO the main thing to watch on trades based on patterns like LLUR is =
position sizing and your stop. Whenever I see a strong trend that is =
not offering a good consolidation of some sort (cup/handle, flat base, =
etc) I put out a smalller position and use a tighter stop. Also until I =
have some cushion I dont add to it. Another thing I do is look at the =
intraday charts and look for a good consolidation on the 30,60, or 120 =
min chart for my stop. Of course if you are strict CANSLIM your stop is =
based solely off of a % so none of this matters :-)
David Taggart
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Katherine Malm
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:09 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] chart reading
Hi Kelly,
I'll bet Tom is already off to work this morning, so I'll chime in =
here. Short answer to your question is "yes"....
A double bottom looks like a "W" with the second dip to make the =
bottom a bit lower than the first. In a C&H formation, you'll often see =
the price fall back a bit as it's tracing the right side of the cup, but =
it is benign by comparison. In the examples you attached, you can see =
the C&H fall back a bit, but obviously not as severe as the red line you =
showed that would classify it as a double bottom. The biggest difference =
in the 2 formations in my mind is the entry point. On double bottoms, =
the pivot is $.10 above the middle peak of the base (center of the "W"), =
whereas in a C&H, you would wait for the final shakeout to occur in the =
handle and then look for the pivot point accordingly. That's not to say =
that a double bottom won't also have a handle, but that is somewhat =
rare.
Katherine
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From: Kelly Short=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] chart reading
Tom (and group),
Thanks for the link. I'm still a bit fuzzy on the difference between =
a CH formation and a Doublebottom formation. I took two of the charts =
from the link you provided and on the CH formation overlaid (in red =
line) a Doublebottom formation. Is the formation a CH because the second =
dip does not go below the first? Or is there some other method of =
identifying a doublebottom formation?
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:32 AM
To: CANSLIM
Subject: [CANSLIM] chart reading
nice, quick refresher
http://www.amateur-investors.com/Chart_Patterns_Article.htm
only one I caught was FSTW
Tom Worley
stkguru@bellsouth.net
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>good advice, David. If you have bought into a =
LLUR, and it=20
continues to behave going forward as it had been, then a little patience =
and=20
time and you should be on the right side of the trade (profitable). If =
the=20
pattern continues, there is always plenty of time to add to the position =
by=20
averaging up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Ddctag@mavericktrading.com =
href=3D"mailto:dctag@mavericktrading.com">David=20
Taggart</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:10 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] LLUR</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D697410315-17072002>IMHO=20
the main thing to watch on trades based on patterns like LLUR is =
position=20
sizing and your stop. Whenever I see a strong trend that is =
not=20
offering a good consolidation of some sort (cup/handle, flat base, etc) =
I put=20
out a smalller position and use a tighter stop. Also until I have =
some=20
cushion I dont add to it. Another thing I do is look at the =
intraday=20
charts and look for a good consolidation on the 30,60, or 120 min =
chart for=20
my stop. Of course if you are strict CANSLIM your stop is based =
solely=20
off of a % so none of this matters :-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D697410315-17072002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D697410315-17072002>David=20
Taggart</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D697410315-17072002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Katherine =
Malm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:09 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] chart=20
reading<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Kelly,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'll bet Tom is already off to work this morning, so I'll chime =
in here.=20
Short answer to your question is "yes"....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>A double bottom looks like a "W" with the second dip to make =
the=20
bottom a bit lower than the first. In a C&H formation, you'll =
often see=20
the price fall back a bit as it's tracing the right side of the cup, =
but it is=20
benign by comparison. In the examples you attached, you can see the =
C&H=20
fall back a bit, but obviously not as severe as the red line you =
showed that=20
would classify it as a double bottom. The biggest difference in the 2=20
formations in my mind is the entry point. On double bottoms, the pivot =
is $.10=20
above the middle peak of the base (center of the "W"), whereas in a =
C&H,=20
you would wait for the final shakeout to occur in the handle and then =
look for=20
the pivot point accordingly. That's not to say that a double bottom =
won't also=20
have a handle, but that is somewhat rare.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dkelly.short@neoris.com =
href=3D"mailto:kelly.short@neoris.com">Kelly=20
Short</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 17, =
2002 8:55=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] chart=20
reading</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Tom (and group),<BR><BR>Thanks for the link. I'm =
still a bit=20
fuzzy on the difference between a CH formation and a Doublebottom =
formation.=20
I took two of the charts from the link you provided and on the CH =
formation=20
overlaid (in red line) a Doublebottom formation. Is the formation a =
CH=20
because the second dip does not go below the first? Or is there some =
other=20
method of identifying a doublebottom=20
formation?<BR><BR>Kelly<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: =
Tom=20
Worley [mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net]<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 17, =
2002 6:32=20
AM<BR>To: CANSLIM<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] chart =
reading<BR><BR><BR>nice, quick=20
refresher<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.amateur-investors.com/Chart_Patterns_Article.htm">http=
://www.amateur-investors.com/Chart_Patterns_Article.htm</A><BR><BR>only=20
one I caught was FSTW<BR><BR>Tom Worley<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">stkguru@bellsouth.net</A><BR>AIM:=20
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