Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:05:02 -0700

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I pretty much agree-I mainly listen to it to get info on new products =
and to see how the cheats work.(Like the guy with the bankruptcy =
misstatement.)  The more you see their game-the more you know to watch =
out for yourself.  Its a kind of education on its own.=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gene Ricci=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


  I find CNBC to be knowledgeable when the 'mute' button is on!
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: zillagirl=20
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


    That's what I mean.  This guy on CNBC specifically said the new =
bankruptcy
    law being proposed would put a stop to that loophole.  The =
marketwatch
    article specifically said it wouldn't.  It made me feel like the guy =
on CNBC
    was trying to get people on the side of the new law by misquoting =
"just a
    little".
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Duke Miller" <dukemill@tampabay.rr.com>
    To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:58 AM
    Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


    > The laws relating to housing are state laws, not federal.  Here in
    > Florida, we've become known as a haven for these jerks, because we =
have
    > a homestead law that says if you're homesteaded in Florida (reside =
in
    > your home here at least 6 months and one day)your home is =
protected from
    > any proceedings, like bankruptcy, except drug law violations.  One =
of
    > our more notorious leading citizens who has taken advantage of =
this is
    > none other than OJ Simpson. So we've attracted a bunch like him =
who
    > before they're charged or found guilty put whatever millions they =
can
    > into a home.  (I guess they then live the rest of their lives off =
the
    > proceeds of home equity loans!)
    >
    > Duke
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
    > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of zillagirl
    > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:34 PM
    > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic
    >
    >
    > I sometimes get the feeling CNBC doesn't care so much what is said =
as
    > long as the conversation keeps moving.  They had a guest on =
yesterday
    > talking about the new bankruptcy laws-said it would stop all these =
CEOs
    > from building 20 million dollar houses and shielding them from
    > bankruptcy.  Yet there was an in-depth article on the marketwatch =
site
    > yesterday about what is wrong with the new laws and one of the =
major
    > points was that these people would still be shielded  while the =
little
    > people , out of work, in a recession would have less protection.
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "David Taggart" <dctag@mavericktrading.com>
    > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:56 AM
    > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Cramer
    >
    >
    > > They both said it.  Cramers old hedge partner endorsed WON's =
last book
    >
    > > 24 essential lessons and their fund was and Berkowitz's still is
    > > pretty
    > active
    > > in the high growth momentum stocks.  But Kudlows comment was =
just
    > > funny,
    > he
    > > knows they only have so much time for the show and yet he asks a
    > > question that any WON student would know is a waste of time to =
ask but
    >
    > > oh well.
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
    > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of
    > > Spencer48@aol.com
    > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:59 AM
    > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer
    > >
    > >
    > > Canslimmers:
    > >
    > >      I can't believe how many people answered David's E-mail =
which
    > > said
    > that
    > > Kudlow said that he reads IBD.  I saw the show, and am pretty =
certain
    > > it
    > was
    > > Kramer who said that he (Kramer) reads, and-in effect-is an avid
    > > follower
    > of
    > > WON's theories.
    > >
    > >      Moreover, I thought I was a pretty apropos question.  Not
    > > everyone subscribes to IBD and knows that WON doesn't pay much
    > > attention to PEs. Also, I was interested in hearing if WON has =
changed
    >
    > > his opinion on
    > "...not
    > > paying attention to PEs"-especially in regard to the earnings =
scandals
    >
    > > in the Bear market.
    > >
    > >                                    jans
    > >
    > >
    > > In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 7:38:45 PM Eastern Standard =
Time,
    > > alensing@prodigy.net writes:
    > >
    > > > David:
    > > >
    > > > Great point!
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > > From: David Taggart
    > > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    > > > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:29 PM
    > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Cramer
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Gotta love the P/E ?  Kudlow asked WON about P/E he says I =
dont
    > > > really
    > pay
    > > attention to it.  If he really reads the
    > > > paper why did he bother asking that question?
    > >
    > >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I pretty much agree-I mainly listen to =
it to get=20
info on new products and to see how the cheats work.(Like the guy with =
the=20
bankruptcy misstatement.)&nbsp; The more you see their game-the more you =
know to=20
watch out for yourself.&nbsp; Its a kind of education on its=20
own.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene =
Ricci</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 =
12:27=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Cramer-off=20
  topic</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I find CNBC to be knowledgeable =
when&nbsp;the=20
  'mute' button is on!</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dzillagirl@email.msn.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com">zillagirl</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 2:15=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Cramer-off=20
    topic</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>That's what I mean.&nbsp; This guy on CNBC =
specifically said=20
    the new bankruptcy<BR>law being proposed would put a stop to that=20
    loophole.&nbsp; The marketwatch<BR>article specifically said it=20
    wouldn't.&nbsp; It made me feel like the guy on CNBC<BR>was trying =
to get=20
    people on the side of the new law by misquoting "just =
a<BR>little".<BR>-----=20
    Original Message -----<BR>From: "Duke Miller" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">dukemill@tampabay.rr.com</A>&gt;=
<BR>To:=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
    Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:58 AM<BR>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] =
Cramer-off=20
    topic<BR><BR><BR>&gt; The laws relating to housing are state laws, =
not=20
    federal.&nbsp; Here in<BR>&gt; Florida, we've become known as a =
haven for=20
    these jerks, because we have<BR>&gt; a homestead law that says if =
you're=20
    homesteaded in Florida (reside in<BR>&gt; your home here at least 6 =
months=20
    and one day)your home is protected from<BR>&gt; any proceedings, =
like=20
    bankruptcy, except drug law violations.&nbsp; One of<BR>&gt; our =
more=20
    notorious leading citizens who has taken advantage of this =
is<BR>&gt; none=20
    other than OJ Simpson. So we've attracted a bunch like him =
who<BR>&gt;=20
    before they're charged or found guilty put whatever millions they=20
    can<BR>&gt; into a home.&nbsp; (I guess they then live the rest of =
their=20
    lives off the<BR>&gt; proceeds of home equity =
loans!)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Duke<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>&gt;=20
    [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of =
zillagirl<BR>&gt;=20
    Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:34 PM<BR>&gt; To: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I =
sometimes=20
    get the feeling CNBC doesn't care so much what is said as<BR>&gt; =
long as=20
    the conversation keeps moving.&nbsp; They had a guest on =
yesterday<BR>&gt;=20
    talking about the new bankruptcy laws-said it would stop all these=20
    CEOs<BR>&gt; from building 20 million dollar houses and shielding =
them=20
    from<BR>&gt; bankruptcy.&nbsp; Yet there was an in-depth article on =
the=20
    marketwatch site<BR>&gt; yesterday about what is wrong with the new =
laws and=20
    one of the major<BR>&gt; points was that these people would still be =

    shielded&nbsp; while the little<BR>&gt; people , out of work, in a =
recession=20
    would have less protection.<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message =
- -----<BR>&gt;=20
    From: "David Taggart" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:dctag@mavericktrading.com">dctag@mavericktrading.com</A>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;=20
    To: &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:56 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: =
[CANSLIM]=20
    Cramer<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; They both said it.&nbsp; Cramers =
old=20
    hedge partner endorsed WON's last book<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 24 =
essential=20
    lessons and their fund was and Berkowitz's still is<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    pretty<BR>&gt; active<BR>&gt; &gt; in the high growth momentum =
stocks.&nbsp;=20
    But Kudlows comment was just<BR>&gt; &gt; funny,<BR>&gt; he<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    knows they only have so much time for the show and yet he asks =
a<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; question that any WON student would know is a waste of time to =
ask=20
    but<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; oh well.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
- -----Original=20
    Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of<BR>&gt; =
&gt; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:Spencer48@aol.com">Spencer48@aol.com</A><BR>&gt; &gt; =
Sent:=20
    Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:59 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    Canslimmers:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I can't=20
    believe how many people answered David's E-mail which<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    said<BR>&gt; that<BR>&gt; &gt; Kudlow said that he reads IBD.&nbsp; =
I saw=20
    the show, and am pretty certain<BR>&gt; &gt; it<BR>&gt; was<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    Kramer who said that he (Kramer) reads, and-in effect-is an =
avid<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; follower<BR>&gt; of<BR>&gt; &gt; WON's theories.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Moreover, I thought I was a =
pretty=20
    apropos question.&nbsp; Not<BR>&gt; &gt; everyone subscribes to IBD =
and=20
    knows that WON doesn't pay much<BR>&gt; &gt; attention to PEs. Also, =
I was=20
    interested in hearing if WON has changed<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; his =
opinion=20
    on<BR>&gt; "...not<BR>&gt; &gt; paying attention to PEs"-especially =
in=20
    regard to the earnings scandals<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; in the Bear=20
    market.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    jans<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; In a message dated Mon, =
29 Jul=20
    2002 7:38:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,<BR>&gt; &gt; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:alensing@prodigy.net">alensing@prodigy.net</A> =
writes:<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; David:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Great=20
    point!<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- =
Original=20
    Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: David Taggart<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt; To: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:29 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Subject:=20
    [CANSLIM] Cramer<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt; Gotta=20
    love the P/E ?&nbsp; Kudlow asked WON about P/E he says I =
dont<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    &gt; really<BR>&gt; pay<BR>&gt; &gt; attention to it.&nbsp; If he =
really=20
    reads the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; paper why did he bother asking that=20
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