Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


From: "Donald Wallker" <dougald@dmv.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:56:59 -0400

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avid--- Thank you for the feedback  Donald=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: David Taggart=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:12 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


  I work in a trading room and its pretty much unanimous that we trade =
better with ESPN on than CNBC.=20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of zillagirl
    Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:05 PM
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


    I pretty much agree-I mainly listen to it to get info on new =
products and to see how the cheats work.(Like the guy with the =
bankruptcy misstatement.)  The more you see their game-the more you know =
to watch out for yourself.  Its a kind of education on its own.=20
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Gene Ricci=20
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:27 PM
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


      I find CNBC to be knowledgeable when the 'mute' button is on!
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: zillagirl=20
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:15 PM
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


        That's what I mean.  This guy on CNBC specifically said the new =
bankruptcy
        law being proposed would put a stop to that loophole.  The =
marketwatch
        article specifically said it wouldn't.  It made me feel like the =
guy on CNBC
        was trying to get people on the side of the new law by =
misquoting "just a
        little".
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Duke Miller" <dukemill@tampabay.rr.com>
        To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
        Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:58 AM
        Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic


        > The laws relating to housing are state laws, not federal.  =
Here in
        > Florida, we've become known as a haven for these jerks, =
because we have
        > a homestead law that says if you're homesteaded in Florida =
(reside in
        > your home here at least 6 months and one day)your home is =
protected from
        > any proceedings, like bankruptcy, except drug law violations.  =
One of
        > our more notorious leading citizens who has taken advantage of =
this is
        > none other than OJ Simpson. So we've attracted a bunch like =
him who
        > before they're charged or found guilty put whatever millions =
they can
        > into a home.  (I guess they then live the rest of their lives =
off the
        > proceeds of home equity loans!)
        >
        > Duke
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
        > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of =
zillagirl
        > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:34 PM
        > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
        > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic
        >
        >
        > I sometimes get the feeling CNBC doesn't care so much what is =
said as
        > long as the conversation keeps moving.  They had a guest on =
yesterday
        > talking about the new bankruptcy laws-said it would stop all =
these CEOs
        > from building 20 million dollar houses and shielding them from
        > bankruptcy.  Yet there was an in-depth article on the =
marketwatch site
        > yesterday about what is wrong with the new laws and one of the =
major
        > points was that these people would still be shielded  while =
the little
        > people , out of work, in a recession would have less =
protection.
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "David Taggart" <dctag@mavericktrading.com>
        > To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
        > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:56 AM
        > Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Cramer
        >
        >
        > > They both said it.  Cramers old hedge partner endorsed WON's =
last book
        >
        > > 24 essential lessons and their fund was and Berkowitz's =
still is
        > > pretty
        > active
        > > in the high growth momentum stocks.  But Kudlows comment was =
just
        > > funny,
        > he
        > > knows they only have so much time for the show and yet he =
asks a
        > > question that any WON student would know is a waste of time =
to ask but
        >
        > > oh well.
        > >
        > > -----Original Message-----
        > > From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
        > > [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of
        > > Spencer48@aol.com
        > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:59 AM
        > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
        > > Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer
        > >
        > >
        > > Canslimmers:
        > >
        > >      I can't believe how many people answered David's E-mail =
which
        > > said
        > that
        > > Kudlow said that he reads IBD.  I saw the show, and am =
pretty certain
        > > it
        > was
        > > Kramer who said that he (Kramer) reads, and-in effect-is an =
avid
        > > follower
        > of
        > > WON's theories.
        > >
        > >      Moreover, I thought I was a pretty apropos question.  =
Not
        > > everyone subscribes to IBD and knows that WON doesn't pay =
much
        > > attention to PEs. Also, I was interested in hearing if WON =
has changed
        >
        > > his opinion on
        > "...not
        > > paying attention to PEs"-especially in regard to the =
earnings scandals
        >
        > > in the Bear market.
        > >
        > >                                    jans
        > >
        > >
        > > In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 7:38:45 PM Eastern =
Standard Time,
        > > alensing@prodigy.net writes:
        > >
        > > > David:
        > > >
        > > > Great point!
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > > From: David Taggart
        > > > To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
        > > > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:29 PM
        > > > Subject: [CANSLIM] Cramer
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > Gotta love the P/E ?  Kudlow asked WON about P/E he says I =
dont
        > > > really
        > pay
        > > attention to it.  If he really reads the
        > > > paper why did he bother asking that question?
        > >
        > >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>avid--- Thank you for the =
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Ddctag@mavericktrading.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:dctag@mavericktrading.com">David Taggart</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 =
4:12=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
Cramer-off=20
  topic</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D169051120-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  work in a trading room and its pretty much unanimous that =
we&nbsp;trade better=20
  with ESPN on than CNBC.&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>=20
    [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
    </B>zillagirl<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:05 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
    Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I pretty much agree-I mainly listen =
to it to=20
    get info on new products and to see how the cheats work.(Like the =
guy with=20
    the bankruptcy misstatement.)&nbsp; The more you see their game-the =
more you=20
    know to watch out for yourself.&nbsp; Its a kind of education on its =

    own.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene =
Ricci</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 12:27=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Cramer-off=20
      topic</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I find CNBC to be knowledgeable=20
      when&nbsp;the 'mute' button is on!</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dzillagirl@email.msn.com=20
        href=3D"mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com">zillagirl</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 2:15=20
        PM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Cramer-off=20
        topic</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>That's what I mean.&nbsp; This guy on CNBC =
specifically=20
        said the new bankruptcy<BR>law being proposed would put a stop =
to that=20
        loophole.&nbsp; The marketwatch<BR>article specifically said it=20
        wouldn't.&nbsp; It made me feel like the guy on CNBC<BR>was =
trying to=20
        get people on the side of the new law by misquoting "just=20
        a<BR>little".<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Duke =
Miller"=20
        &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:dukemill@tampabay.rr.com">dukemill@tampabay.rr.com</A>&gt;=
<BR>To:=20
        &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
        Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:58 AM<BR>Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] =
Cramer-off=20
        topic<BR><BR><BR>&gt; The laws relating to housing are state =
laws, not=20
        federal.&nbsp; Here in<BR>&gt; Florida, we've become known as a =
haven=20
        for these jerks, because we have<BR>&gt; a homestead law that =
says if=20
        you're homesteaded in Florida (reside in<BR>&gt; your home here =
at least=20
        6 months and one day)your home is protected from<BR>&gt; any=20
        proceedings, like bankruptcy, except drug law violations.&nbsp; =
One=20
        of<BR>&gt; our more notorious leading citizens who has taken =
advantage=20
        of this is<BR>&gt; none other than OJ Simpson. So we've =
attracted a=20
        bunch like him who<BR>&gt; before they're charged or found =
guilty put=20
        whatever millions they can<BR>&gt; into a home.&nbsp; (I guess =
they then=20
        live the rest of their lives off the<BR>&gt; proceeds of home =
equity=20
        loans!)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Duke<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -----Original=20
        Message-----<BR>&gt; From: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>&gt;=20
        [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of =
zillagirl<BR>&gt;=20
        Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:34 PM<BR>&gt; To: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer-off topic<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
I=20
        sometimes get the feeling CNBC doesn't care so much what is said =

        as<BR>&gt; long as the conversation keeps moving.&nbsp; They had =
a guest=20
        on yesterday<BR>&gt; talking about the new bankruptcy laws-said =
it would=20
        stop all these CEOs<BR>&gt; from building 20 million dollar =
houses and=20
        shielding them from<BR>&gt; bankruptcy.&nbsp; Yet there was an =
in-depth=20
        article on the marketwatch site<BR>&gt; yesterday about what is =
wrong=20
        with the new laws and one of the major<BR>&gt; points was that =
these=20
        people would still be shielded&nbsp; while the little<BR>&gt; =
people ,=20
        out of work, in a recession would have less protection.<BR>&gt; =
- -----=20
        Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: "David Taggart" &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:dctag@mavericktrading.com">dctag@mavericktrading.com</A>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;=20
        To: &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
        Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:56 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: =
[CANSLIM]=20
        Cramer<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; They both said it.&nbsp; =
Cramers old=20
        hedge partner endorsed WON's last book<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 24 =
essential=20
        lessons and their fund was and Berkowitz's still is<BR>&gt; &gt; =

        pretty<BR>&gt; active<BR>&gt; &gt; in the high growth momentum=20
        stocks.&nbsp; But Kudlows comment was just<BR>&gt; &gt; =
funny,<BR>&gt;=20
        he<BR>&gt; &gt; knows they only have so much time for the show =
and yet=20
        he asks a<BR>&gt; &gt; question that any WON student would know =
is a=20
        waste of time to ask but<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; oh well.<BR>&gt;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: =
<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A><BR>&gt;=20
        &gt; [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf =
Of<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
        <A =
href=3D"mailto:Spencer48@aol.com">Spencer48@aol.com</A><BR>&gt; &gt;=20
        Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:59 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
        &gt; Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Cramer<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
        &gt; Canslimmers:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I can't believe how many =
people=20
        answered David's E-mail which<BR>&gt; &gt; said<BR>&gt; =
that<BR>&gt;=20
        &gt; Kudlow said that he reads IBD.&nbsp; I saw the show, and am =
pretty=20
        certain<BR>&gt; &gt; it<BR>&gt; was<BR>&gt; &gt; Kramer who said =
that he=20
        (Kramer) reads, and-in effect-is an avid<BR>&gt; &gt; =
follower<BR>&gt;=20
        of<BR>&gt; &gt; WON's theories.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Moreover, I thought I was a =
pretty=20
        apropos question.&nbsp; Not<BR>&gt; &gt; everyone subscribes to =
IBD and=20
        knows that WON doesn't pay much<BR>&gt; &gt; attention to PEs. =
Also, I=20
        was interested in hearing if WON has changed<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt; his=20
        opinion on<BR>&gt; "...not<BR>&gt; &gt; paying attention to=20
        PEs"-especially in regard to the earnings =
scandals<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
        in the Bear market.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
        =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        jans<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; In a message dated =
Mon, 29=20
        Jul 2002 7:38:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,<BR>&gt; &gt; <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:alensing@prodigy.net">alensing@prodigy.net</A>=20
        writes:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; David:<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
        &gt; &gt; Great point!<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
        &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: David=20
        Taggart<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; To: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>&gt;=20
        &gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:29 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Subject:=20
        [CANSLIM] Cramer<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
        Gotta love the P/E ?&nbsp; Kudlow asked WON about P/E he says I=20
        dont<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; really<BR>&gt; pay<BR>&gt; &gt; attention =
to=20
        it.&nbsp; If he really reads the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; paper why did =
he=20
        bother asking that question?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
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