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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:01:17 -0500
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Hey, I think I'll join you!
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:24 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Ann/Fred/Charley, I went back to DGO and listed funds and banks
separately. The DGO fund numbers compare closely to the Morningstar fund
numbers (see attached).
So, I now have 4 watches and still don't know the correct time !!! Three
of the watches agree but are vastly different than DGO....
Going for a cold one,
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Richards
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Gene,
I am recalling this from memory but the IBD numbers used to be more
accurate when I was working closely with the numbers. Whether this is the
case now, I don't know.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:46 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Ann, found the data.... my notes highlight that Morningstar only
'counts' funds in their numbers and not banks, etc. I believe that banks'
are to be counted. I attached the file with AM* column.... added.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ann
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Gene,
What do you mean about Morningstar? I am trying to figure out where
to hunt for fundamental info, and I was hoping they were a good source,
because all the info is right there. Also, they show the Q earnings as
compared with the previous Q last year (%).
Are they not reliable?
Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ricci
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
I'm trying to determine 'the' benchmark data supplier for
institutional ownership. My attached spreadsheet is a sample of companies
and the % owned by institutions:
DGO: DailyGraphs
QP2: QuotesPlus
NASDAQ: NASDAQ.com
MSN: Money Central
DGO stands out as being very different. I'm trying to determine if
it (DGO) is any good AND if there are other good sources for this data
(Morningstar is in another world).
regards,
Gene
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[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gene=20
Ricci<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Ann/Fred/Charley, I went back to DGO =
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listed funds and banks separately. The DGO fund numbers compare =
closely to the=20
Morningstar fund numbers (see attached). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">So, I now have 4 watches and still =
don't know=20
the correct time !!! Three of the watches agree but are vastly =
different=20
than DGO.... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Going for a cold one,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dadrich@gte.net href=3D"mailto:adrich@gte.net">Fred =
Richards</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 3:48=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
Institutional=20
Ownership</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D780074720-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Gene,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D780074720-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D780074720-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
am recalling this from memory but the IBD numbers used to be more =
accurate=20
when I was working closely with the numbers. Whether this is the =
case now, I=20
don't know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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sion.com</A>=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gene=20
Ricci<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:46 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Institutional=20
Ownership<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Ann, found the data.... my notes =
highlight=20
that Morningstar only 'counts' funds in their numbers and not =
banks, etc.=20
I believe that banks' are to be counted. I attached the file with =
AM*=20
column.... added.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dannholly@attbi.com =
href=3D"mailto:annholly@attbi.com">Ann</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 2:34=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM]=20
Institutional Ownership</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gene,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>What do you mean about Morningstar? I am =
trying to=20
figure out where to hunt for fundamental info, and I was hoping =
they=20
were a good source, because all the info is right there. Also, =
they show=20
the Q earnings as compared with the previous Q last year=20
(%).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Are they not reliable?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ann</FONT></DIV>
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</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net =
href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene Ricci</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July =
31, 2002=20
3:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] =
Institutional=20
Ownership</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I'm trying to determine =
'the'=20
benchmark data supplier for institutional ownership. My =
attached=20
spreadsheet is a sample of companies and the % owned by=20
institutions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">DGO: =
DailyGraphs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">QP2: QuotesPlus</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">NASDAQ: =
NASDAQ.com</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">MSN: Money =
Central</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">DGO stands out as being very =
different. I'm trying to determine if it (DGO) is any good AND =
if=20
there are other good sources for this data (Morningstar is in =
another=20
world).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS">Gene</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>=
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