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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:42:49 -0500
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Donald & Nancy,
Here are the only facts you need to see this is a stinky stock...
Cashflow NEGATIVE
Earnings NEGATIVE (never had a positive year)
Growth in Sales NEGATIVE
RS 42 and DECLINING
Price LESS THAN 50 and 200 day moving averages
Research is one thing if you want to be "in the know" on a technology =
with "potential"....but the only way to make (and keep) real money over =
the long run is to stick to a discipline and this stock meets absolutely =
zero CANSLIM criteria. If this were a short term trading forum, then =
we'd be having an different discussion about an entirely different =
discipline.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----=20
From: zillagirl=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow -off topic
Donald-I did a little checking on LNOP when I read your post. I am =
always interested in new products and in some cases will buy in and wait =
for the business to develop and the fundamentals to improve, to buy low. =
Apparently EZ Chip won the award for the most highly integrated 10 =
Gigabit network processor. This company is a subsidiary of Lan =
Optics(semi conductor company). Lan optics holding in EZ Chip was just =
increased from 57% to 66 % by issuing Apax-a venture capitalist co. who =
held the shares- 1.2 million newly issued shares of Lan Optics, for =
their additional stake. The EZ Chip is suppose to save time and money of =
up to 80%. I have three things that kept me from going further and =
checking acc.-roe-rs etc. 1).Possible dilution of Lan Optic share by 1.2 =
million. 2) They are not anticipating sales to affect revenues for =
apx. 1 year. 3) Semis not shining lately .I appreciate your bringing it =
to my attention and I will follow it , but I think with the market like =
it is there may be a better buy in opportunity closer to when company =
starts to grow from the new product. But I could be just as wrong as =
right. I got my research from T.D. Waterhouse web site. Good Luck with =
it. nancy
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Donald Wallker=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow=20
I'm so glad to hear from someone in the thick of things that tells =
me that emotions, rather than hide-bound calculations ,rule the day =
in the market. In truth, I'd rather take a risk, based on the sentiment =
of the marketplace together with some reasonable input, than to always =
hang my hat on CANSLIM. For example, early this morning I came within =
a hair of buying into AYE, not because I thought it was a great =
investment but because, at the opening bell it was paying close to %10 =
in dividends and I knew in my heart that that would not last. Rather, =
I thought I could easily take a %10 to %15 profit by buying early and =
selling late today, since, no doubt, the brokers would be pushing the =
stock. As it turned out, the ere was more that %10 invloved However, =
I found a potentially more favorable, but admittedly longer term =
investment, that is, LNOP. for less that its closing price. I'd rather =
run a risk for a %500 gain than c\to ontinuously rake in %10 plus gains. =
It's all a matter of perspective ------ Donald=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fred Richards=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow=20
Heck, it was just the wise guys pushing the market up at the end. =
Check the volume. Today was month end and they were trying to pretty up =
things. The turnaround looks very suspicious from my perspective =
particularly as almost all of the recent ones have occurred after 3 p.m. =
in NY including this one.
For me, I'll look at what the overseas markets are doing and the =
pre-market NASDAQ indicator before getting too excited. Further more, =
they were substantially more new lows than new highs for both the NYSE =
and the NASDAQ.=20
But emotions, not facts, rule markets even among the big players.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Donald Wallker
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:06 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow=20
"Tomorrow, tomorrow, there's always tomorrow, it's only a day =
away." And I suspect that it will be a be a Bull day tomorrow given =
the turn-around in todays trading. At this writing we are not yet =
closed, but we are far, far up from today's earlier market weakness, =
which normally bodes well for tomorrow. So-- to everyone in the Group i =
bid you a Happy Tomorrow! - - Donald=20
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<DIV>Donald & Nancy,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here are the only facts you need to see this is a stinky =
stock...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cashflow NEGATIVE</DIV>
<DIV>Earnings NEGATIVE (never had a positive year)</DIV>
<DIV>Growth in Sales NEGATIVE</DIV>
<DIV>RS 42 and DECLINING</DIV>
<DIV>Price LESS THAN 50 and 200 day moving averages</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Research is one thing if you want to be "in the know" on a =
technology with=20
"potential"....but the only way to make (and keep) real money over the =
long run=20
is to stick to a discipline and this stock meets absolutely zero =
CANSLIM=20
criteria. If this were a short term trading forum, then we'd be having =
an=20
different discussion about an entirely different discipline.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dzillagirl@email.msn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com">zillagirl</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 =
5:04=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow =
- -off=20
topic</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Donald-I did a little checking on =
LNOP when I=20
read your post. I am always interested in new products and in some =
cases will=20
buy in and wait for the business to develop and the fundamentals to =
improve,=20
to buy low. Apparently EZ Chip won the award for the most highly=20
integrated 10 Gigabit network processor. This company is a =
subsidiary of=20
Lan Optics(semi conductor company). Lan optics holding in EZ Chip was =
just=20
increased from 57% to 66 % by issuing Apax-a venture capitalist co. =
who held=20
the shares- 1.2 million newly issued shares of Lan Optics, for their=20
additional stake. The EZ Chip is suppose to save time and money of up =
to=20
80%. I have three things that kept me from going further =
and=20
checking acc.-roe-rs etc. 1).Possible dilution of Lan Optic share by =
1.2=20
million. 2) They are not anticipating =
sales to=20
affect revenues for apx. 1 year. 3) Semis not shining lately .I=20
appreciate your bringing it to my attention and I will follow it , but =
I think=20
with the market like it is there may be a better buy in opportunity =
closer to=20
when company starts to grow from the new product. But I could be =
just as=20
wrong as right. I got my research from T.D. Waterhouse web site. =
Good=20
Luck with it. nancy</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddougald@dmv.com href=3D"mailto:dougald@dmv.com">Donald =
Wallker</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 2:21=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Tomorrow </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm so glad to hear from someone in =
the thick=20
of things that tells me that emotions, rather than=20
hide-bound calculations ,rule the day in the =
market. In=20
truth, I'd rather take a risk, based on the sentiment of the =
marketplace=20
together with some reasonable input, than to always hang my hat on=20
CANSLIM. For example, early this morning I came =
within a=20
hair of buying into AYE, not because I thought it was a great =
investment but=20
because, at the opening bell it was paying close to %10 =
in=20
dividends and I knew in my heart that that would not =
last. =20
Rather, I thought I could easily take a %10 to %15 profit by =
buying=20
early and selling late today, since, no doubt, the brokers would be =
pushing=20
the stock. As it turned out, the ere was more that %10 =20
invloved However, I found a potentially =
more favorable,=20
but admittedly longer term investment, that is, LNOP. for less =
that=20
its closing price. I'd rather run a risk for a %500 gain than c\to=20
ontinuously rake in %10 plus gains. It's all a matter of=20
perspective ------ Donald </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dadrich@gte.net href=3D"mailto:adrich@gte.net">Fred =
Richards</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 4:46=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
Tomorrow=20
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Heck, it was just the wise guys pushing the market up at =
the end.=20
Check the volume. Today was month end and they were trying to =
pretty up=20
things. The turnaround looks very suspicious from my =
perspective=20
particularly as almost all of the recent ones have occurred after =
3 p.m.=20
in NY including this one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>For me, I'll look at what the overseas markets are doing =
and the=20
pre-market NASDAQ indicator before getting too excited. Further =
more, they=20
were substantially more new lows than new highs for both the NYSE =
and the=20
NASDAQ. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>But emotions, not facts, rule markets even among the big=20
players.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Donald=20
Wallker<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:06 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Tomorrow =
<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Tomorrow, tomorrow, there's =
always=20
tomorrow, it's only a day away." And I suspect that =
it will=20
be a be a Bull day tomorrow given the turn-around in todays=20
trading. At this writing we are not yet closed, but we are =
far,=20
far up from today's earlier market weakness, which =
normally=20
bodes well for tomorrow. So-- to everyone in =
the Group i bid=20
you a Happy Tomorrow! - -=20
=
Donald </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQU=
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