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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:17:51 -0400
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Very interesting.
So I have to either use Morningstar plus a source to add in banks (can't =
afford DGO), or maybe just use ibd.
I'll have to get out my magnifying glasses again!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Ann/Fred/Charley, I went back to DGO and listed funds and banks =
separately. The DGO fund numbers compare closely to the Morningstar fund =
numbers (see attached).=20
So, I now have 4 watches and still don't know the correct time !!! =
Three of the watches agree but are vastly different than DGO....=20
Going for a cold one,
Gene
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fred Richards=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Gene,
I am recalling this from memory but the IBD numbers used to be more =
accurate when I was working closely with the numbers. Whether this is =
the case now, I don't know.
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From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gene Ricci
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:46 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Ann, found the data.... my notes highlight that Morningstar only =
'counts' funds in their numbers and not banks, etc. I believe that =
banks' are to be counted. I attached the file with AM* column.... added.
Gene
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ann=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
Gene,
What do you mean about Morningstar? I am trying to figure out =
where to hunt for fundamental info, and I was hoping they were a good =
source, because all the info is right there. Also, they show the Q =
earnings as compared with the previous Q last year (%).
Are they not reliable?
Ann
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gene Ricci=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] Institutional Ownership
I'm trying to determine 'the' benchmark data supplier for =
institutional ownership. My attached spreadsheet is a sample of =
companies and the % owned by institutions:
DGO: DailyGraphs
QP2: QuotesPlus
NASDAQ: NASDAQ.com
MSN: Money Central
DGO stands out as being very different. I'm trying to =
determine if it (DGO) is any good AND if there are other good sources =
for this data (Morningstar is in another world).
regards,
Gene
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Very interesting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So I have to either use Morningstar plus a source to =
add in=20
banks (can't afford DGO), or maybe just use ibd.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'll have to get out my magnifying glasses =
again!</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene =
Ricci</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 =
5:23=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Institutional=20
Ownership</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Ann/Fred/Charley, I went back to DGO =
and=20
listed funds and banks separately. The DGO fund numbers compare =
closely to the=20
Morningstar fund numbers (see attached). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">So, I now have 4 watches and still =
don't know=20
the correct time !!! Three of the watches agree but are vastly =
different=20
than DGO.... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Going for a cold one,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dadrich@gte.net href=3D"mailto:adrich@gte.net">Fred =
Richards</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 3:48=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
Institutional=20
Ownership</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D780074720-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Gene,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D780074720-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D780074720-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
am recalling this from memory but the IBD numbers used to be more =
accurate=20
when I was working closely with the numbers. Whether this is the =
case now, I=20
don't know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com">owner-canslim@lists.xmis=
sion.com</A>=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gene=20
Ricci<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:46 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Institutional=20
Ownership<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Ann, found the data.... my notes =
highlight=20
that Morningstar only 'counts' funds in their numbers and not =
banks, etc.=20
I believe that banks' are to be counted. I attached the file with =
AM*=20
column.... added.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dannholly@attbi.com =
href=3D"mailto:annholly@attbi.com">Ann</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 2:34=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM]=20
Institutional Ownership</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gene,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>What do you mean about Morningstar? I am =
trying to=20
figure out where to hunt for fundamental info, and I was hoping =
they=20
were a good source, because all the info is right there. Also, =
they show=20
the Q earnings as compared with the previous Q last year=20
(%).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Are they not reliable?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ann</FONT></DIV>
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5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net =
href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene Ricci</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July =
31, 2002=20
3:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] =
Institutional=20
Ownership</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I'm trying to determine =
'the'=20
benchmark data supplier for institutional ownership. My =
attached=20
spreadsheet is a sample of companies and the % owned by=20
institutions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">DGO: =
DailyGraphs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">QP2: QuotesPlus</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">NASDAQ: =
NASDAQ.com</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">MSN: Money =
Central</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">DGO stands out as being very =
different. I'm trying to determine if it (DGO) is any good AND =
if=20
there are other good sources for this data (Morningstar is in =
another=20
world).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS">Gene</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>=
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