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Oops- responded to the wrong email and directed it to the wrong person =
(I think I need more coffee). Thanks ANN for the wonderful CANSLIM =
synopsis!
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From: Kelly Short=20
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:01 AM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] LNOP (was Tomorrow -off topic)
Nancy- thank you for this synopsis- I'm following Katherine's actions =
and printing/saving this one for daily reference. -Kelly
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From: zillagirl [mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:05 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] LNOP (was Tomorrow -off topic)
Thank you Katherine-that's why I went off topic. He requested opinions =
earlier and it interested me so I gave one. Is this o.k., to go off =
topic or is it necessary to word it in a canslim type format as you =
did? Also could I request your opinion on something. I sent a post this =
morning about a W chart-I believe you sent the chart through. The =
charts and volume thing is driving me nuts because I'm not seeing it. I =
saw a run up and a shake out - a run up and a shake out. Do you have =
any advice or thoughts as to why and what to do-or do you see the same =
thing at all? I don't understand the mass investor thing that makes a W =
or triple bottom happen like I do the cup with a handle. I was hoping to =
get a response but didn't, because I'm frustrated by it. But if no =
thoughts on how to help, appreciate your time. Thanks Nancy
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Katherine <mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net> Malm=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:42 PM
Subject: [CANSLIM] LNOP (was Tomorrow -off topic)
Donald & Nancy,
=20
Here are the only facts you need to see this is a stinky stock...
=20
Cashflow NEGATIVE
Earnings NEGATIVE (never had a positive year)
Growth in Sales NEGATIVE
RS 42 and DECLINING
Price LESS THAN 50 and 200 day moving averages
=20
Research is one thing if you want to be "in the know" on a technology =
with "potential"....but the only way to make (and keep) real money over =
the long run is to stick to a discipline and this stock meets absolutely =
zero CANSLIM criteria. If this were a short term trading forum, then =
we'd be having an different discussion about an entirely different =
discipline.
=20
Katherine
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: zillagirl <mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com> =20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow -off topic
Donald-I did a little checking on LNOP when I read your post. I am =
always interested in new products and in some cases will buy in and wait =
for the business to develop and the fundamentals to improve, to buy low. =
Apparently EZ Chip won the award for the most highly integrated 10 =
Gigabit network processor. This company is a subsidiary of Lan =
Optics(semi conductor company). Lan optics holding in EZ Chip was just =
increased from 57% to 66 % by issuing Apax-a venture capitalist co. who =
held the shares- 1.2 million newly issued shares of Lan Optics, for =
their additional stake. The EZ Chip is suppose to save time and money of =
up to 80%. I have three things that kept me from going further and =
checking acc.-roe-rs etc. 1).Possible dilution of Lan Optic share by 1.2 =
million. 2) They are not anticipating sales to affect revenues for =
apx. 1 year. 3) Semis not shining lately .I appreciate your bringing it =
to my attention and I will follow it , but I think with the market like =
it is there may be a better buy in opportunity closer to when company =
starts to grow from the new product. But I could be just as wrong as =
right. I got my research from T.D. Waterhouse web site. Good Luck with =
it. nancy
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Donald <mailto:dougald@dmv.com> Wallker=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow=20
I'm so glad to hear from someone in the thick of things that tells me =
that emotions, rather than hide-bound calculations ,rule the day in =
the market. In truth, I'd rather take a risk, based on the sentiment of =
the marketplace together with some reasonable input, than to always hang =
my hat on CANSLIM. For example, early this morning I came within a =
hair of buying into AYE, not because I thought it was a great investment =
but because, at the opening bell it was paying close to %10 in =
dividends and I knew in my heart that that would not last. Rather, I =
thought I could easily take a %10 to %15 profit by buying early and =
selling late today, since, no doubt, the brokers would be pushing the =
stock. As it turned out, the ere was more that %10 invloved However, =
I found a potentially more favorable, but admittedly longer term =
investment, that is, LNOP. for less that its closing price. I'd rather =
run a risk for a %500 gain than c\to ontinuously rake in %10 plus gains. =
It's all a matter of perspective ------ Donald=20
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fred <mailto:adrich@gte.net> Richards=20
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow=20
Heck, it was just the wise guys pushing the market up at the end. Check =
the volume. Today was month end and they were trying to pretty up =
things. The turnaround looks very suspicious from my perspective =
particularly as almost all of the recent ones have occurred after 3 p.m. =
in NY including this one.
=20
For me, I'll look at what the overseas markets are doing and the =
pre-market NASDAQ indicator before getting too excited. Further more, =
they were substantially more new lows than new highs for both the NYSE =
and the NASDAQ.=20
=20
But emotions, not facts, rule markets even among the big players.
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Donald Wallker
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:06 PM
To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [CANSLIM] Tomorrow=20
"Tomorrow, tomorrow, there's always tomorrow, it's only a day away." =
And I suspect that it will be a be a Bull day tomorrow given the =
turn-around in todays trading. At this writing we are not yet closed, =
but we are far, far up from today's earlier market weakness, which =
normally bodes well for tomorrow. So-- to everyone in the Group i bid =
you a Happy Tomorrow! - - Donald=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D269350614-01082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Oops-=20
responded to the wrong email and directed it to the wrong person (I =
think I need=20
more coffee). Thanks ANN for the wonderful CANSLIM =
synopsis!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Kelly Short =
<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] LNOP (was =
Tomorrow=20
-off topic)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D161555913-01082002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Nancy- thank you for this synopsis- I'm following Katherine's =
actions=20
and printing/saving this one for daily reference. =
- -Kelly</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> zillagirl=20
[mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002=20
6:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
[CANSLIM] LNOP (was Tomorrow -off topic)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you Katherine-that's why I =
went off=20
topic. He requested opinions earlier and it interested me so I gave =
one. Is=20
this o.k., to go off topic or is it necessary to word it in a =
canslim=20
type format as you did? Also could I request your opinion on=20
something. I sent a post this morning about a W chart-I believe you =
sent the=20
chart through. The charts and volume thing is driving me nuts =
because=20
I'm not seeing it. I saw a run up and a shake out - a run up =
and a=20
shake out. Do you have any advice or thoughts as to why and =
what to=20
do-or do you see the same thing at all? I don't understand=20
the mass investor thing that makes a W or triple bottom happen =
like I=20
do the cup with a handle. I was hoping to get a response but =
didn't,=20
because I'm frustrated by it. But if no thoughts on how to help, =
appreciate=20
your time. Thanks Nancy</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20
Malm</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 3:42=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] LNOP =
(was Tomorrow=20
-off topic)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Donald & Nancy,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here are the only facts you need to see this is a stinky=20
stock...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cashflow NEGATIVE</DIV>
<DIV>Earnings NEGATIVE (never had a positive year)</DIV>
<DIV>Growth in Sales NEGATIVE</DIV>
<DIV>RS 42 and DECLINING</DIV>
<DIV>Price LESS THAN 50 and 200 day moving averages</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Research is one thing if you want to be "in the know" on a =
technology=20
with "potential"....but the only way to make (and keep) real money =
over=20
the long run is to stick to a discipline and this stock meets=20
absolutely zero CANSLIM criteria. If this were a short term =
trading=20
forum, then we'd be having an different discussion about an =
entirely=20
different discipline.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dzillagirl@email.msn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:zillagirl@email.msn.com">zillagirl</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 5:04=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Tomorrow=20
-off topic</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Donald-I did a little checking =
on LNOP when=20
I read your post. I am always interested in new products and in =
some=20
cases will buy in and wait for the business to develop and the=20
fundamentals to improve, to buy low. Apparently EZ Chip won =
the=20
award for the most highly integrated 10 Gigabit network =
processor. =20
This company is a subsidiary of Lan Optics(semi conductor =
company). Lan=20
optics holding in EZ Chip was just increased from 57% to 66 % by =
issuing=20
Apax-a venture capitalist co. who held the shares- 1.2 million =
newly=20
issued shares of Lan Optics, for their additional stake. The EZ =
Chip is=20
suppose to save time and money of up to 80%. I =
have three=20
things that kept me from going further and checking acc.-roe-rs =
etc.=20
1).Possible dilution of Lan Optic share by 1.2=20
million. 2) They are not =
anticipating=20
sales to affect revenues for apx. 1 year. 3) Semis not =
shining=20
lately .I appreciate your bringing it to my attention and I will =
follow=20
it , but I think with the market like it is there may be a =
better buy in=20
opportunity closer to when company starts to grow from the new=20
product. But I could be just as wrong as right. I got my =
research=20
from T.D. Waterhouse web site. Good Luck with it. =20
nancy</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddougald@dmv.com =
href=3D"mailto:dougald@dmv.com">Donald=20
Wallker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July =
31, 2002=20
2:21 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Tomorrow=20
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm so glad to hear from =
someone in the=20
thick of things that tells me that emotions, =
rather than=20
hide-bound calculations ,rule the day in the =
market. =20
In truth, I'd rather take a risk, based on the sentiment of =
the=20
marketplace together with some reasonable input, than to =
always hang=20
my hat on CANSLIM. For example, early this morning =
I=20
came within a hair of buying into AYE, not because I thought =
it was a=20
great investment but because, at the opening bell it was=20
paying close to %10 in dividends and I knew =
in my=20
heart that that would not last. Rather, I thought I =
could easily=20
take a %10 to %15 profit by buying early and selling =
late today,=20
since, no doubt, the brokers would be pushing the stock. =
As it=20
turned out, the ere was more that %10 invloved =20
However, I found a potentially more favorable, =
but=20
admittedly longer term investment, that is, LNOP. for less =
that its=20
closing price. I'd rather run a risk for a %500 gain than c\to =
ontinuously rake in %10 plus gains. It's all a matter of =
perspective ------ Donald </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dadrich@gte.net =
href=3D"mailto:adrich@gte.net">Fred=20
Richards</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July =
31, 2002=20
4:46 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[CANSLIM] Tomorrow=20
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Heck, it was just the wise guys pushing the market =
up at the=20
end. Check the volume. Today was month end and they were =
trying to=20
pretty up things. The turnaround looks very suspicious =
from my=20
perspective particularly as almost all of the recent ones =
have=20
occurred after 3 p.m. in NY including this =
one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>For me, I'll look at what the overseas markets are =
doing and=20
the pre-market NASDAQ indicator before getting too excited. =
Further=20
more, they were substantially more new lows than new highs =
for both=20
the NYSE and the NASDAQ. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D000053820-31072002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>But emotions, not facts, rule markets even among =
the big=20
players.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Donald Wallker<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, =
2002 3:06=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
[CANSLIM] Tomorrow <BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Tomorrow, tomorrow, =
there's always=20
tomorrow, it's only a day away." And I suspect =
that it=20
will be a be a Bull day tomorrow given the turn-around in =
todays=20
trading. At this writing we are not yet closed, but =
we are=20
far, far up from today's earlier market =
weakness,=20
which normally bodes well for tomorrow. So-- to =
everyone in=20
the Group i bid you a Happy Tomorrow! - -=20
=
Donald </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQU=
OTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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