Re: [CANSLIM] Saucer-shaped Chart?


From: "Donald Wallker" <dougald@dmv.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Saucer-shaped Chart?
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:37:12 -0400

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Tom ----I don't think we are looking at the same chart.  Please look at =
a 3 year chart of NOBL with the following thoughts in mind..  I believe =
the NOBL Chart actually shows a much flatter pattern than a cup because =
we are looking at a 3 year chart.  A cup is normally viewed on a one =
year Chart.  So - the only way you can compare the charts is show a one =
year cup on the same chart as the NOBL's 3 year chart.  And, If this =
were done, it would be clear that NOBL has traced a Saucer-shape =
commencing during the trading week of 3/20/2000  @ $15.750 and ending =
during the trading week of 4/15/2002  @ $15.300  (it being noted the =
during the latter week the price of the stock rose to about $15.750). In =
the course of NOBL tracing  this saucer-shape, it bottomed out during =
the week of 1/22/ 2001 @$4.50  In addition, it seems to me that NOBL has =
traced a handle that ended during the week of 7/1/2002 @ $9.35. =
Moreover, it seems to me that since it took about 3 months to trace the =
handle, it may take another 3 months to reach the pivot point.  If there =
is something I've missed i'd sure like to here from you, or anybody else =
that would like to step up to the plate.  The thing I am most concerned =
about is using the CANSLIM rules erroneously.  Accordingly I'd =
appreciate a reasoned reply. ---Donald  =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tom Worley=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Saucer-shaped Chart?
  3 months to trace the handle

  a saucer is a much flatter pattern. NOBL went from over 15 to under 4, =
then back to over 15. Pattern much more of a cup than saucer. The handle =
that has formed is weak, as it has gone from over 15 to under 9 in three =
months. The good news is that this decline is on low volume.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Donald Wallker=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:40 PM
  Subject: [CANSLIM] Saucer-shaped Chart?


   To all:   In the course of reviewing various automotive stocks, I was =
surprised to see that the 3 year Chart of NOBL clearly shows a  =
completed  saucer and handle shaped curve.   I hope I'm not seeing =
things.  As I write this note the IBD Ratings for NOBL are 97, 76, A -,B =
and D-, and NOBL has increased their guidance for the remainder of  =
2002.  I would greatly appreciate  someone out there giving me some =
feedback about this Chart since it was only a few days ago that I read =
the IBD Article  about  saucer-shaped  Charts taking years to form.  If =
this is one of them, I guess the pivot point is about 2 to 3 months away =
months, considering the snails pace of this type of Chart.  Please =
respond with some constructive criticism.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom ----I don't think we are looking at =
the same=20
chart.&nbsp; Please look at a 3 year chart of NOBL with the following =
thoughts=20
in mind..&nbsp; I&nbsp;believe the NOBL Chart actually shows a much =
flatter=20
pattern than a cup because we are looking at a 3 year =
chart.&nbsp;&nbsp;A cup is=20
normally viewed on a one year Chart.&nbsp; So - the only way you can =
compare the=20
charts is show a one year cup on the same chart as the NOBL's 3 year=20
chart.&nbsp; And, If this were done, it&nbsp;would be clear&nbsp;that =
NOBL has=20
traced a Saucer-shape commencing during the trading week of 3/20/2000 =
&nbsp;@=20
$15.750 and ending during the trading week of 4/15/2002&nbsp;&nbsp;@ =
$15.300=20
&nbsp;(it being noted the during the latter week the price of the stock =
rose to=20
about $15.750). In the course of NOBL tracing&nbsp; this saucer-shape, =
it=20
bottomed out during the week of 1/22/ 2001 @$4.50&nbsp; In addition, it =
seems to=20
me that NOBL has traced a handle that ended during the week of 7/1/2002 =
@ $9.35.=20
Moreover, it seems to me that since it took about 3 months to trace the =
handle,=20
it may take another 3 months to reach the pivot point.&nbsp;&nbsp;If =
there is=20
something I've missed i'd sure like to here from you, or anybody else =
that would=20
like to step up to the plate.&nbsp; The thing I am most concerned about =
is using=20
the CANSLIM rules erroneously.&nbsp; Accordingly I'd appreciate a =
reasoned=20
reply. ---Donald&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dstkguru@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:stkguru@bellsouth.net">Tom=20
  Worley</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 03, 2002 =
4:04=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Saucer-shaped=20
  Chart?</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3 months to trace the =
handle</FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>a saucer is a much flatter pattern. NOBL went =
from over=20
  15 to under 4, then back to over 15. Pattern much more of a cup than =
saucer.=20
  The handle that has formed is weak, as it has gone from over 15 to =
under 9 in=20
  three months. The good news is that this decline is on low=20
volume.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Ddougald@dmv.com href=3D"mailto:dougald@dmv.com">Donald =
Wallker</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:40 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> [CANSLIM] Saucer-shaped Chart?</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;To all:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In the =
course of=20
  reviewing various automotive stocks, I was surprised to see that the 3 =
year=20
  Chart of NOBL clearly shows a&nbsp; completed &nbsp;saucer and handle =
shaped=20
  curve.&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope I'm not seeing things.&nbsp; As I write this =
note=20
  the IBD Ratings for NOBL are 97, 76, A -,B and D-, and NOBL has =
increased=20
  their guidance for&nbsp;the remainder of &nbsp;2002.&nbsp; I would =
greatly=20
  appreciate&nbsp; someone out there giving me some feedback about this =
Chart=20
  since it was only a few days ago that I read the=20
  IBD&nbsp;Article&nbsp;&nbsp;about &nbsp;saucer-shaped&nbsp; Charts =
taking=20
  years to form.&nbsp; If this is one of them, I guess the pivot point =
is=20
  about&nbsp;2 to 3 months away&nbsp;months, considering the snails pace =
of this=20
  type of Chart.&nbsp; Please respond with some constructive=20
  criticism.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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