Re: [CANSLIM] Identifying NEW leaders


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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Identifying NEW leaders
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:38:02 -0700

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I agree- all these things are great-I'm seeing it more and more as I =
read and post.  My question is, what would be the harm of adding say the =
top two or three stocks from each  interested persons list( who would =
choose to participate)-to be dissected by the group. A person like me =
who is relatively new to canslim would probably have my stocks shot down =
right away.  But I would learn from that.    But some of the smarter =
canslimers on the site, who have a lot more time  and knowledge, or =
computer savvy could probably pinpoint the possible great ones from the =
O.K. ones easily, where I would never see it at this point.     I went =
to see Bill Oneil in L.A. and he said even he needed a 3 year learning =
curve before he started to get the system and become profitable.  I know =
there are not many good stocks right now , but hypothetically  -if the =
market turns in 6 months and leaders start to emerge in a year or so- =
this type of brainstorming may give all boats a chance to rise with the =
tide.  Otherwise , any of us that haven't had the three year curve may =
very well miss a great buying opportunity.  My last point I will make is =
that if we step out of our analytical minds- Ex. what is  canslim , what =
is a cup, what is a break out, etc.-  What is really happening is that =
if people can learn to make a fair number of successful trades using =
this system or this list then lives are changed for the better.  Kids =
can go to college-homes are bought- good medical care is available.  I =
know when many people are grouped together there will never be 100% =
agreement but several people have said they would consider it. It =
doesn't take all- just a few with knowledge. I don't see how anyone =
would lose from sharing their knowledge-where would we all be if Bill O. =
felt that way. Even he puts out lists-  I will stop with this =
thought-What if Katherine had the next AOL in her sites and you didn't.  =
Would anyone here want to miss it because she felt like as long as she =
found it the rest was not her problem.  Thanks for letting me put my =
point out there. Nancy
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: David Taggart=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:09 PM
  Subject: RE: [CANSLIM] Identifying NEW leaders


  I like how the list has been most of the time.  If you want to post a =
list that is made up of mostly canslim stocks more power to you if you =
dont thats fine too.  If someone has a question regarding a stock as =
long as it is Canslimish then go ahead.  And if you have any other =
questions or lessons post away.  Its a good group that seems to be =
willing to answer any questions regarding CANSLIM and things related to =
growth stocks and trading in general.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Winston Little
    Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 PM
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Identifying NEW leaders


    Two groups have emerged.
    One group is asking for help with tutorial discussion of a =
"potential list", the other group stating that the purpose of this board =
is not to identify specific issues.
    The position of  both groups have merit.
    A middle ground may be for anyone to post a particular stock =
(maximum of two for the entire group each day, first come first served). =

    The person posting, MUST give some background on the stock and some =
listing of what makes the person believe it is a potential for the day's =
CANSLIM discussion.
    Once posted with the necessary background information, discussion on =
the merits, flaws and cautions could follow.
    Benefits would be good review for some people, good tutorial for =
others, good opportunity for some others to hone their skills as =
constructive reviews evolved, opportunity to get different perspectives =
while action is occurring (in contrast with the IBD Monday Morning =
quarterbacking such as the cup with or without handles).
    At the end of the day, discussion ends on the one or two issues =
served up.


    Agree?
    Disagree?
    Nonsense?=20
    Flawed proposal?






      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Ian=20
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:38 PM
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Identifying NEW leaders


      In light of the fact that these are extraordinary times, I'll =
throw one out with a terribly ugly chart, but very solid current and =
forward CANSLIM fundamentals ... (and besides, I love their name - the =
Engineer in me has always wanted to buy stocks like this): CBI-NYSE, =
Chicago Bridge and Iron

      I am particularly intrigued by the combination of a strong grwing =
backlog, relatively low historical valuation and a sustained recent =
increase in ADV. However, the chart is awful. Any opinions on this one?

      Ian

      BTW - I qualify these as 'extraordinary times' because I've had no =
trouble finding strong groups/sectors/stocks at any point in the last =
few years, until this past June. It amazes me that everything can be =
weak simultaneously.


        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Vanchee1@aol.com=20
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:38 AM
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Identifying NEW leaders


        Here is one similar to CHTT, what do you think.

        DLI,  Rev last qtr of 93 mil, EPS of .53, dept/equity .97, shrs =
out 8.6, float 4.7

        CHTT Rev last qtr of 58 mil, EPS of .58, dept/equity 4.03, shrs =
out 9.5, float 8.1

        CHTT does have double the margin but much more dept. comments

        Chris

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree- all these things are great-I'm =
seeing it=20
more and more as I read and post.&nbsp; My question is, what would be =
the harm=20
of adding say the top two or three&nbsp;stocks from each&nbsp; =
interested=20
persons list(&nbsp;who would choose to participate)-to be dissected by =
the=20
group.&nbsp;A person like me who is relatively new to canslim would =
probably=20
have&nbsp;my stocks&nbsp;shot down&nbsp;right away.&nbsp; But I would =
learn from=20
that.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;But some of the smarter canslimers on the site, =
who have=20
a lot more time &nbsp;and knowledge, or computer savvy&nbsp;could =
probably=20
pinpoint the possible&nbsp;great ones from the O.K. ones easily, where I =
would=20
never see it at this point. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I went to see Bill =
Oneil in=20
L.A. and he said even he needed a 3 year learning curve before he =
started to get=20
the system and become profitable.&nbsp; I know there are not many good =
stocks=20
right now , but hypothetically &nbsp;-if the market turns in 6 months =
and=20
leaders start to emerge in a year or so- this type of brainstorming may =
give all=20
boats a chance to rise with the tide.&nbsp;&nbsp;Otherwise , any of us =
that=20
haven't had the three year curve may very well miss a great&nbsp;buying=20
opportunity.&nbsp; My last point I will make is that if we step out of =
our=20
analytical minds- Ex. what is&nbsp; canslim , what is a cup, what is a =
break=20
out, etc.-&nbsp; What is really happening is that if people can learn to =
make a=20
fair number of successful trades using this system or this list then =
lives are=20
changed for the better.&nbsp; Kids can go to college-homes are bought- =
good=20
medical care is available.&nbsp; I know when many people are grouped =
together=20
there will never be 100% agreement but&nbsp;several people have said =
they would=20
consider it. It doesn't take all-&nbsp;just a few with knowledge.&nbsp;I =
don't=20
see&nbsp;how anyone would&nbsp;lose from sharing their knowledge-where =
would we=20
all be if Bill O. felt that way.&nbsp;Even he puts out lists-&nbsp; I =
will stop=20
with this thought-What if Katherine had the next AOL in her sites and =
you=20
didn't.&nbsp; Would anyone here want to miss it because she&nbsp;felt=20
like&nbsp;as long as she found it the rest was not her problem.&nbsp; =
Thanks for=20
letting me put my point out there. Nancy</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Ddctag@mavericktrading.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:dctag@mavericktrading.com">David Taggart</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 07, =
2002 1:09=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CANSLIM] =
Identifying NEW=20
  leaders</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D389360620-07082002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  like how the list has been most of the time.&nbsp; If you want to post =
a list=20
  that is made up of mostly canslim stocks more power to you if you dont =
thats=20
  fine too.&nbsp; If someone has a question regarding a stock as long as =
it is=20
  Canslimish then go ahead.&nbsp; And if you have any other questions or =
lessons=20
  post away.&nbsp; Its a good group that seems to be willing to answer =
any=20
  questions regarding CANSLIM and things related to growth stocks and =
trading in=20
  general.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    [mailto:owner-canslim@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Winston =

    Little<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:55 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    canslim@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Identifying NEW=20
    leaders<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Two groups&nbsp;have emerged.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>One group is&nbsp;asking for help with tutorial =
discussion=20
    of a "potential list", the other group&nbsp;stating that the purpose =
of this=20
    board is not to identify specific issues.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The position of&nbsp; both groups&nbsp;have=20
    merit.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>A middle ground may be for anyone to post a =
particular=20
    stock&nbsp;(m</FONT><FONT size=3D2>aximum of two for the entire =
group each=20
    day, first come first served). </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The person posting, MUST give some background on =
the stock=20
    and some listing of what makes the person believe it is a potential =
for the=20
    day's CANSLIM&nbsp;discussion.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Once posted with the necessary background =
information,=20
    discussion on the merits, flaws and cautions could =
follow.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Benefits would be good review for some people, =
good=20
    tutorial for others, good opportunity for some others to =
hone&nbsp;their=20
    skills as constructive reviews evolved, opportunity to get different =

    perspectives while action is occurring (in contrast with the IBD =
Monday=20
    Morning quarterbacking such as the cup with or without=20
handles).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>At the end of the day, discussion ends on the =
one or two=20
    issues served up.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Agree?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Disagree?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Nonsense?</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Flawed proposal?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dianstm@shaw.ca href=3D"mailto:ianstm@shaw.ca">Ian</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 07, =
2002 3:38=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Identifying=20
      NEW leaders</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>In light of the fact that these are =
extraordinary times,=20
      I'll throw one out with a terribly ugly chart, but very solid =
current and=20
      forward CANSLIM fundamentals ... (and besides, I love their name - =
the=20
      Engineer in me has always wanted to buy stocks like this): =
CBI-NYSE,=20
      Chicago Bridge and Iron</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am particularly intrigued by the combination =
of a=20
      strong grwing backlog, relatively low historical valuation and a =
sustained=20
      recent increase in ADV. However, the chart is awful. Any opinions =
on this=20
      one?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ian</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>BTW - I qualify these as 'extraordinary times' =
because=20
      I've had no trouble finding strong groups/sectors/stocks at any =
point in=20
      the last few years, until this past June. It amazes me that =
everything can=20
      be weak simultaneously.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3DVanchee1@aol.com=20
        href=3D"mailto:Vanchee1@aol.com">Vanchee1@aol.com</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August =
07, 2002=20
        11:38 AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Identifying=20
        NEW leaders</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0=20
        face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Here is =
one similar to=20
        CHTT, what do you think.<BR><BR>DLI,&nbsp; Rev last qtr of 93 =
mil, EPS=20
        of .53, dept/equity .97, shrs out 8.6, float 4.7<BR><BR>CHTT Rev =
last=20
        qtr of 58 mil, EPS of .58, dept/equity 4.03, shrs out 9.5, float =

        8.1<BR><BR>CHTT does have double the margin but much more dept.=20
        =
comments<BR><BR>Chris<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQU=
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