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Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:54:48 -0500
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0A5F_01C23F15.73AE6FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageThanks for clearing that up Winston..... I appreciate and agree with your points on analyzing stocks in real = time, as the best discussions are always centered on these kinds of = posts. Katherine - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Winston Little=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Katherine: You are correct on the path of the discussion.=20 It has taken several twists, and turns.=20 The purpose of my note was not in reference to your weekly list. The cases studies presented in the O'Neil books and IBD Investors Corner = are compiled with the benefit of 100% of hindsight on what the correct = assessment and decisions should have been. As I read the notes with "requests for help", my understanding of them = is that people were asking for discussion of a current case where the = outcome is still unknown, and the requester could PARTICIPATE in the = discussion and track the outcome.=20 Discussion and analysis of current cases also may also be more = meaningful and interesting, as the tone and speed of the market moves = has changed from those presented in the books and IBD Investors Corner, = since there is no hindsight available.=20 At times some of the requests loosely used the term "lists of stocks" or = "list of potential candidates", which has lead to objections or = rejections.=20 My recollection of the posts were that some respondents interpreted the = requests as the requester asking for the analysis work to be done by = someone else.=20 My belief is that was not the goal of the people asking for the help. My intent was NOT to in any way imply that you were saying: "that I = was implying that I didn't want to "do the work for others". The purpose of this note and my previous ones were not to advocate the = keeping of any lists other than the ones that each person chose to = develop. Instead it was to try to allow anyone to identify a stock, give some = technical and fundamental information about it and then and only then = ASK a specific question on some aspect of the situation as it related to = CANSLIM, and then to PARTICIPATE in any resulting discussion. I hope that this clarifies the status, and again my intent was not to = offend you in any way, or to imply that you were unwilling to assist = anyone. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Katherine Malm=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Winston, I'm a little confused now....maybe it's because the thread became so = convoluted. Are you saying that I was implying that I didn't want to "do = the work for others" when I said that I did not want to post a weekly = list? If so, that was never my intent. My original comment was simply = that *any* list is a "crutch" (including those generated by the IBD) = because it doesn't allow the user to find a personal path to creating = their own list of candidates. The problem is not with having a list, the = problem is with having *too many* lists and no means to sift through = them in a meaningful way.=20 For me personally, I knew that my mining methods were working well = when I was already stalking trades *before* the stocks were highlighted = in the IBD. The process of arriving at that particular mining method = gave me an expanded understanding and confidence in the CANSLIM = discipline. As Robert E stated so eloquently earlier today in his = oh-so-Zen post.....the trip is the destination. Katherine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Winston Little=20 To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath Duke: We believe that Martha Stewart (not McCallum) will be available to = administer the oath for you. My perception from watching the correspondence on the subject is that = most if not all supplicants have read one or more of the books and were = seeking some forum for tracking a case while it was live. The O'Neil books and IBD are filled with after the fact case studies = and Monday morning quarterbacking.These are helpful, and the WebLink = feature has served to improve the status with cases more current. Unfortunately, I believe that several people have read the requests as = people asking for others to do the work for the requesters rather than = for help with more current cases.=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0A5F_01C23F15.73AE6FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Thanks for clearing that up Winston.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I appreciate and agree with your points on analyzing stocks in real = time,=20 as the best discussions are always centered on these kinds of = posts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Katherine</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 title=3Dwlittle1@peoplepc.com = href=3D"mailto:wlittle1@peoplepc.com">Winston=20 Little</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:41 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Katherine:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>You are correct on the path of the discussion. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>It has taken several twists, and=20 turns. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The purpose of my note was not in reference to = your=20 weekly list.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The cases studies presented in the O'Neil books and = IBD=20 Investors Corner are compiled with the benefit of 100% of hindsight = on what=20 the correct assessment and decisions should have been.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>As I read the notes with "requests for help", my = understanding=20 of them is that people were asking for discussion of a current case=20 where the outcome is still unknown, and the requester could = PARTICIPATE in=20 the discussion and track the outcome. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Discussion and analysis of current cases also = may also be=20 more meaningful and interesting, as the tone and speed of the market=20 moves has changed from those presented in the books and IBD = Investors=20 Corner, since there is no hindsight available. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>At times some of the requests loosely used the term = "lists of=20 stocks" or "list of potential candidates", which has lead to=20 objections or rejections. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My recollection of the posts were that some=20 respondents interpreted the requests as the requester asking = for the=20 analysis work to be done by someone else. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My belief is that was not the goal of the people = asking for=20 the help.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My intent was NOT to in any way imply that you = were=20 saying: "</FONT><FONT size=3D3>that I was implying that = I didn't=20 want to "do the work for others".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The purpose of this note and my previous ones were = not to=20 advocate the keeping of any lists other than the ones that each person = chose to=20 develop.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Instead it was to try to allow anyone to identify a = stock,=20 give some technical and fundamental information about it and then and = only then=20 ASK a specific question on some aspect of the situation as it related to = CANSLIM, and then to PARTICIPATE in any resulting = discussion.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I hope that this clarifies the status, and again my = intent was=20 not to offend you in any way, or to imply that you were unwilling to = assist=20 anyone.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net = href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20 Malm</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 08, 2002 = 12:31=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS = Oath</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT = size=3D2></FONT><FONT=20 size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV>Winston,</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>I'm a little confused now....maybe it's because the thread became = so=20 convoluted. Are you saying that I was implying that I didn't want to = "do the=20 work for others" when I said that I did not want to post a weekly = list? If so,=20 that was never my intent. My original comment was simply that *any* = list is a=20 "crutch" (including those generated by the IBD) because it = doesn't allow=20 the user to find a personal path to creating their own list of = candidates. The=20 problem is not with having a list, the problem is with having *too = many* lists=20 and no means to sift through them in a meaningful way. </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>For me personally, I knew that my mining methods were working = well when I=20 was already stalking trades *before* the stocks were highlighted in = the IBD.=20 The process of arriving at that particular mining method gave me an = expanded=20 understanding and confidence in the CANSLIM discipline. As Robert E = stated so=20 eloquently earlier today in his oh-so-Zen post.....the trip is the=20 destination.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Katherine</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 title=3Dwlittle1@peoplepc.com = href=3D"mailto:wlittle1@peoplepc.com">Winston=20 Little</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>= </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:57 AM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] HTMMIS Oath</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Duke:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>We believe that Martha Stewart (not McCallum) will = be=20 available to administer the oath for you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My perception from watching the correspondence on = the=20 subject is that most if not all supplicants have read one or more = of the books and were seeking some forum for tracking = a case=20 while it was live.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The O'Neil books and IBD are filled with = after the fact=20 case studies and Monday morning quarterbacking.These are helpful, and = the=20 WebLink feature has served to improve the status with cases more=20 current.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Unfortunately, I believe that several people have = read the=20 requests as people asking for others to do the work for the = requesters=20 rather than for help with more current=20 cases.</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0A5F_01C23F15.73AE6FB0-- - - - -To subscribe/unsubscribe, email "majordomo@xmission.com" - -In the email body, write "subscribe canslim" or - -"unsubscribe canslim". 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