Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated


From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 20:25:32 -0500

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Hi Gene,

Not sure where the "'your' WTW" came from, unless you're referring to an =
offhand reference I made to it in a post on consumer stocks.

Thanks for the alert on the weblink--I hadn't seen it.

Katherine
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gene Ricci=20
  To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated


  "I rank the composite score as "mildly useful."

  Katherine how's this?
  Ringraziamento! (thank you)

  BTW, you forgot to mention that 'your' WTW also made today's weblink
  http://www.investors.com/weblink/

  Gene


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Katherine Malm=20
    To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:02 PM
    Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated


    You know, I have a simple solution for this kind of dilemma....don't =
use the numbers.=20

    I know it's tempting to use a number like this, as it seems to "tell =
you everything" about the stock. But I think once you summarize summary =
numbers, you're asking for trouble. I rank the composite score as =
"mildly useful."

    Here's an example. I'll select a couple of stocks that have come up =
for discussion here in the last few months: WTW and TOL.

    Scores?
    WTW =3D 96
    TOL =3D 95

    Yet, look at the charts. WTW broke out today, TOL is rolling over =
and playing dead. Doesn't sound like a score of 95/96 "tells" me =
everything I need to know about the stocks.

    Katherine
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Gene Ricci=20
      To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:41 PM
      Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated


      Arghhh!=20
      Same definition
      Same data base
      Same company
      different numbers!
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Bill Triffet=20
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 6:58 PM
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated


        Either way, it appears that the IBD data paints a prettier =
picture of the
        stocks.

        -Bill

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Gene Ricci" <genr@swbell.net>
        To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
        Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:50 PM
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated


        I just had today's update figures for DGO sent to me.
        The 3 columns are 8/9 DGO data
        8/12 IBD readings 30 minutes ago
        8/12 DGO just received today's download


        Hi Katherine, I hadn't checked today and after reading your =
note, I
        'thought' I was in error.

        However, I just went and checked several stocks:
                       8/9  8/12  8/12
                        DGO  IBD  DGO
        AAON     85     86      83
        AIR          38     55      32
        ABCB       89     90     90
        ABM         77    85      75
        ABN         58    67       58
        ACE         69    86        71
        ACMR     92     95       92
        AES         24     30       25
        AFCE      72     79       74
        AFL         92     95       91


        The first ten (10) I checked showed different numbers.

        My question still stands, which one is better?

        Gene



        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Katherine Malm
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
        Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:47 PM
        Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better


        Hi Gene,

        There seems to be conflicting information on this...See DGO's =
reply to my
        recent inquiry (7/31) about the very same thing:




        Hi Katherine,

        Thank you for your recent email to Daily Graphs Online.

        I apologize, but the recent additions to our services have not =
yet been
        reflected in our Image Maps resource.  We plan on making the =
update soon.
        TO address your question, I would like to confirm that the =
Composite Rating
        you see on our service is the same SmartSelect=AE Composite =
Rating that is
        provided by the Investor's Business Daily and investors.com.

        Please write back if you have any questions or need assistance.

        Best regards,
        Dan
        Daily Graphs Online
        www.dailygraphs.com

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Gene Ricci
        To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
        Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:06 PM
        Subject: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better


        Let's see, IBD provides an Overall Rating and now DGO provides a =
Composite
        Rating. Has anyone determined which one is better?

        Gene

        The new SmartSelect=AE Composite Rating in Investor's Business =
Daily and
        the Stock Checkup Overall Rating found on investors.com are =
based on
        different formulas.

        The SmartSelect=AE Composite Rating combines all 5 SmartSelect =
Ratings
        into one easy-to-use rating.  More weight is placed on EPS and =
RS
        Rating, and the stock's percent off its 52-week high is also =
included in
        the formula.  Results are then compared to all other companies, =
and each
        company is assigned a rating from 1-99 with 99 being the best.  =
This
        rating is designed to help you get a quick feel for how a =
company's
        SmartSelect=AE Ratings compare to all other stocks in our =
database.  This
        is intended to be an additional tool to help you find the stocks =
with
        the highest SmartSelect=AE Ratings, quickly and easily.

        The Overall Rating in the Stock Checkup is determined by a =
proprietary
        formula incorporating all five of the Stock Checkup ratings. =
These are
        the Technical Rating, Fundamental Rating, Attractiveness Rating, =
Group's
        Technical Rating and Group's Fundamental Rating.  The Stock =
Checkup uses
        over 30 different variables including all the SmartSelect=AE =
Ratings to
        calculate the Overall Rating.  When using the Stock Checkup, =
focus not
        only on the Overall Rating but all 6 of the Checkup Ratings.  =
Also study
        how the stock compares to its group within the individual =
Checkup
        Ratings.



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<DIV>Hi Gene,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Not sure where the "'your' WTW" came from, unless you're referring =
to an=20
offhand&nbsp;reference I made to it in a post on consumer stocks.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for the alert on the weblink--I hadn't seen it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Katherine</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene =
Ricci</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 12, 2002 =
8:21=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Which =
One Is=20
  Better - Updated</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">"</FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman">I rank=20
  the composite score as "mildly useful."</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Katherine how's this?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Ringraziamento! (thank =
you)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">BTW, you forgot to mention that =
'your' WTW=20
  also made today's weblink</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.investors.com/weblink/">http://www.investors.com/webli=
nk/</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Gene</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dkmalm@earthlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:kmalm@earthlink.net">Katherine=20
    Malm</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 12, 2002 =
8:02=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] Which =
One Is=20
    Better - Updated</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>You know, I have a simple solution for this kind of =
dilemma....don't=20
    use the numbers. </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I know it's tempting to use a number like this, as it seems to =
"tell=20
    you everything" about the stock. But I think once you summarize =
summary=20
    numbers, you're asking for trouble. I rank the composite score as =
"mildly=20
    useful."</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Here's an example. I'll select a couple of stocks that have =
come up for=20
    discussion here in the last few months: WTW and TOL.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Scores?</DIV>
    <DIV>WTW =3D 96</DIV>
    <DIV>TOL =3D 95</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Yet, look at the charts. WTW broke out today, TOL is rolling =
over and=20
    playing dead. Doesn't sound like a score of 95/96 "tells" me =
everything I=20
    need to know about the stocks.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Katherine</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dgenr@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">Gene =
Ricci</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 12, =
2002 7:41=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Which One Is=20
      Better - Updated</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Arghhh! </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Same definition</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Same data base</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Same company</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">different numbers!</FONT></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dbtriffet@earthlink.net=20
        href=3D"mailto:btriffet@earthlink.net">Bill Triffet</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dcanslim@lists.xmission.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 12, =
2002 6:58=20
        PM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANSLIM] =
Which One Is=20
        Better - Updated</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>Either way, it appears that the IBD data paints a =

        prettier picture of the<BR>stocks.<BR><BR>-Bill<BR><BR>----- =
Original=20
        Message -----<BR>From: "Gene Ricci" &lt;<A=20
        href=3D"mailto:genr@swbell.net">genr@swbell.net</A>&gt;<BR>To: =
&lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
&gt;<BR>Sent:=20
        Monday, August 12, 2002 4:50 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which =
One Is=20
        Better - Updated<BR><BR><BR>I just had today's update figures =
for DGO=20
        sent to me.<BR>The 3 columns are 8/9 DGO data<BR>8/12 IBD =
readings 30=20
        minutes ago<BR>8/12 DGO just received today's =
download<BR><BR><BR>Hi=20
        Katherine, I hadn't checked today and after reading your note,=20
        I<BR>'thought' I was in error.<BR><BR>However, I just went and =
checked=20
        several=20
        =
stocks:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        8/9&nbsp; 8/12&nbsp;=20
        =
8/12<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        DGO&nbsp; IBD&nbsp; DGO<BR>AAON&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        85&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 86&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        83<BR>AIR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        38&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 55&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        32<BR>ABCB&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        89&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 90&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        90<BR>ABM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        77&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 85&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        75<BR>ABN&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        58&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 67&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        58<BR>ACE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        69&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
86&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        71<BR>ACMR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 92&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        92<BR>AES&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        24&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
30&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        25<BR>AFCE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
72&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        79&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        74<BR>AFL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        92&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        91<BR><BR><BR>The first ten (10) I checked showed different=20
        numbers.<BR><BR>My question still stands, which one is=20
        better?<BR><BR>Gene<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message =
- -----<BR>From:=20
        Katherine Malm<BR>To: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>Sent:=20
        Monday, August 12, 2002 5:47 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which =
One Is=20
        Better<BR><BR><BR>Hi Gene,<BR><BR>There seems to be conflicting=20
        information on this...See DGO's reply to my<BR>recent inquiry =
(7/31)=20
        about the very same thing:<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Hi =
Katherine,<BR><BR>Thank=20
        you for your recent email to Daily Graphs Online.<BR><BR>I =
apologize,=20
        but the recent additions to our services have not yet =
been<BR>reflected=20
        in our Image Maps resource.&nbsp; We plan on making the update=20
        soon.<BR>TO address your question, I would like to confirm that =
the=20
        Composite Rating<BR>you see on our service is the same =
SmartSelect=AE=20
        Composite Rating that is<BR>provided by the Investor's Business =
Daily=20
        and investors.com.<BR><BR>Please write back if you have any =
questions or=20
        need assistance.<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR>Dan<BR>Daily Graphs=20
        Online<BR><A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.dailygraphs.com">www.dailygraphs.com</A><BR><BR>----- =

        Original Message -----<BR>From: Gene Ricci<BR>To: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:canslim@lists.xmission.com">canslim@lists.xmission.com</A>=
<BR>Sent:=20
        Monday, August 12, 2002 4:06 PM<BR>Subject: [CANSLIM] Which One =
Is=20
        Better<BR><BR><BR>Let's see, IBD provides an Overall Rating and =
now DGO=20
        provides a Composite<BR>Rating. Has anyone determined which one =
is=20
        better?<BR><BR>Gene<BR><BR>The new SmartSelect=AE Composite =
Rating in=20
        Investor's Business Daily and<BR>the Stock Checkup Overall =
Rating found=20
        on investors.com are based on<BR>different formulas.<BR><BR>The=20
        SmartSelect=AE Composite Rating combines all 5 SmartSelect =
Ratings<BR>into=20
        one easy-to-use rating.&nbsp; More weight is placed on EPS and=20
        RS<BR>Rating, and the stock's percent off its 52-week high is =
also=20
        included in<BR>the formula.&nbsp; Results are then compared to =
all other=20
        companies, and each<BR>company is assigned a rating from 1-99 =
with 99=20
        being the best.&nbsp; This<BR>rating is designed to help you get =
a quick=20
        feel for how a company's<BR>SmartSelect=AE Ratings compare to =
all other=20
        stocks in our database.&nbsp; This<BR>is intended to be an =
additional=20
        tool to help you find the stocks with<BR>the highest =
SmartSelect=AE=20
        Ratings, quickly and easily.<BR><BR>The Overall Rating in the =
Stock=20
        Checkup is determined by a proprietary<BR>formula incorporating =
all five=20
        of the Stock Checkup ratings. These are<BR>the Technical Rating, =

        Fundamental Rating, Attractiveness Rating, Group's<BR>Technical =
Rating=20
        and Group's Fundamental Rating.&nbsp; The Stock Checkup =
uses<BR>over 30=20
        different variables including all the SmartSelect=AE Ratings=20
        to<BR>calculate the Overall Rating.&nbsp; When using the Stock =
Checkup,=20
        focus not<BR>only on the Overall Rating but all 6 of the Checkup =

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