From: "NANCY POLCARO" <zillagirl@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was: Which One Is Better - Updated)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:11:05 -0700
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I don't know what I'm talking about half the time either Katherine. I just
think I'm getting it and then I see something that makes me think I'm not
getting it. So I ask- to double check myself and it doesn't make sense-that
tells me what I'm thinking is wrong(or I don't present it properly). Either
way thanks for your time, I'll just keep reading and trying to learn more.
Nancy
>From: "Katherine Malm" <kmalm@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
>To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was: Which One Is Better - Updated)
>Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:23:45 -0500
>
>Nancy,
>
>I have to admit I'm clueless as to what you're asking me in regard to a
>"response on WTW" as I have seen none.
>
>Your question earlier today was in response to Mike Niemotka's posting
>about stop losses and I detailed several points with respect to your
>comments.
>
>But to your questions here, yes, yes, yes, you are correct!!....when the
>stock essentially moves sideways, *that's* a base. And yes! after it breaks
>out it will move up ("rise", "ascend") for a while before it forms
>another base.
>
>See my handwritten notes on bases and rising stocks at:
>http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/HealthyRisingStock.JPG and
>http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/TypesOfBases.JPG
>
>
>Katherine
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: NANCY POLCARO
> To: canslim
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was: Which One Is Better - Updated)
>
>
> Katherine-I have several questions to ask you about your post if you do
>not mind. I am confused. 1st-I was not disputing your answer to Mike-I was
>asking , in the situation I was presenting to you (from info I thought I
>got from you post ) could my response be right or am I totally lost in
>bases and sells? Tell me if I am because I was thinking I was getting some
>understanding but your email sounded like I am not. Second Part of my info
>was taken from the link you put a chart in when you posted this email. I
>went back and reviewed it and now realize I was looking at the RS line in
>the 12 week base you pointed out ande not the chart pattern. Figures huh!
>Do I understand it to be right that a base is when the stock is going
>sideways and when it starts its 25 or so climb it is not a base again until
>it starts going sideways again. Thanks again for your patience Nancy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Katherine Malm
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:33 AM
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [CANSLIM] Re: WTW (was: Which One Is Better - Updated)
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> WTW didn't have the smoothest base, but it was a 12 week base
>nonetheless.
> That's not unusual given the gyrations of the market as it's been
>groping
> for this latest bottom. So that you can see my personal take on it,
>I've
> annotated the chart at:
>
> http://WallStreet-LLC.com/canslim/WTW081302.jpg
>
>
> Gene noted that WTW is also featured in IBD's weblink today. They have
>also
> annotated a chart, so you can see their interpretation at:
>
> http://www.investors.com/weblink/
>
> Katherine
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <michael_niemotka@baxter.com>
> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
>
>
>
> Katherine,
>
> Can you expound on the statement that WTW broke out? In looking at
>the
> chart, I can sorta see a v shaped cwh, but in the handle, the volume
>did
> NOT dry up.....what would you say the pivot point was?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike Niemotka , PE
> Sr. Principal Engineer
> Baxter Healthcare Corporation
> Route 120 & Wilson Road
> Round Lake, IL 60073
> Tel (847) 270-4075
> Fax (847) 270-4525
> michael_niemotka@baxter.com
>
>
>
> "Katherine Malm"
> <kmalm@earthlink.net> To:
> canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent by: cc:
> owner-canslim@lists.xm Subject: Re:
>[CANSLIM]
> Which One Is Better - Updated
> ission.com
>
>
> 08/12/2002 08:02 PM
> Please respond to
> canslim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> You know, I have a simple solution for this kind of dilemma....don't
>use
> the numbers.
>
> I know it's tempting to use a number like this, as it seems to "tell
>you
> everything" about the stock. But I think once you summarize summary
> numbers, you're asking for trouble. I rank the composite score as
>"mildly
> useful."
>
> Here's an example. I'll select a couple of stocks that have come up
>for
> discussion here in the last few months: WTW and TOL.
>
> Scores?
> WTW = 96
> TOL = 95
>
> Yet, look at the charts. WTW broke out today, TOL is rolling over and
> playing dead. Doesn't sound like a score of 95/96 "tells" me
>everything I
> need to know about the stocks.
>
> Katherine
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene Ricci
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
>
> Arghhh!
> Same definition
> Same data base
> Same company
> different numbers!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Triffet
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
>
> Either way, it appears that the IBD data paints a prettier picture of
>the
> stocks.
>
> -Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Ricci" <genr@swbell.net>
> To: <canslim@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better - Updated
>
>
> I just had today's update figures for DGO sent to me.
> The 3 columns are 8/9 DGO data
> 8/12 IBD readings 30 minutes ago
> 8/12 DGO just received today's download
>
>
> Hi Katherine, I hadn't checked today and after reading your note, I
> 'thought' I was in error.
>
> However, I just went and checked several stocks:
> 8/9 8/12 8/12
> DGO IBD DGO
> AAON 85 86 83
> AIR 38 55 32
> ABCB 89 90 90
> ABM 77 85 75
> ABN 58 67 58
> ACE 69 86 71
> ACMR 92 95 92
> AES 24 30 25
> AFCE 72 79 74
> AFL 92 95 91
>
>
> The first ten (10) I checked showed different numbers.
>
> My question still stands, which one is better?
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Katherine Malm
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better
>
>
> Hi Gene,
>
> There seems to be conflicting information on this...See DGO's reply to
>my
> recent inquiry (7/31) about the very same thing:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Katherine,
>
> Thank you for your recent email to Daily Graphs Online.
>
> I apologize, but the recent additions to our services have not yet
>been
> reflected in our Image Maps resource. We plan on making the update
>soon.
> TO address your question, I would like to confirm that the Composite
> Rating
> you see on our service is the same SmartSelect® Composite Rating that
>is
> provided by the Investor's Business Daily and investors.com.
>
> Please write back if you have any questions or need assistance.
>
> Best regards,
> Dan
> Daily Graphs Online
> www.dailygraphs.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene Ricci
> To: canslim@lists.xmission.com
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:06 PM
> Subject: [CANSLIM] Which One Is Better
>
>
> Let's see, IBD provides an Overall Rating and now DGO provides a
>Composite
> Rating. Has anyone determined which one is better?
>
> Gene
>
> The new SmartSelect® Composite Rating in Investor's Business Daily and
> the Stock Checkup Overall Rating found on investors.com are based on
> different formulas.
>
> The SmartSelect® Composite Rating combines all 5 SmartSelect Ratings
> into one easy-to-use rating. More weight is placed on EPS and RS
> Rating, and the stock's percent off its 52-week high is also included
>in
> the formula. Results are then compared to all other companies, and
>each
> company is assigned a rating from 1-99 with 99 being the best. This
> rating is designed to help you get a quick feel for how a company's
> SmartSelect® Ratings compare to all other stocks in our database.
>This
> is intended to be an additional tool to help you find the stocks with
> the highest SmartSelect® Ratings, quickly and easily.
>
> The Overall Rating in the Stock Checkup is determined by a proprietary
> formula incorporating all five of the Stock Checkup ratings. These are
> the Technical Rating, Fundamental Rating, Attractiveness Rating,
>Group's
> Technical Rating and Group's Fundamental Rating. The Stock Checkup
>uses
> over 30 different variables including all the SmartSelect® Ratings to
> calculate the Overall Rating. When using the Stock Checkup, focus not
> only on the Overall Rating but all 6 of the Checkup Ratings. Also
>study
> how the stock compares to its group within the individual Checkup
> Ratings.
>
>
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